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Josh · Jan 02, 2006, 11:30 PM // 23:30

Hey, well I'm trying to look for a new Graphics Card, and I've found plenty of really good and cheap Cards, now, I've seen motherboards with white PCI-E slots and yellow, now I'm wondering, I've took a pic of my Slots with a Digital Camera, can any of you tell me if it's a PCI-E Slot?

If it helps, my motherboards a Acer Aspire T120 KM400.

Also, that card on the right (red one) is my ATI Sapphire Radeon 9250 128MB AGP 8X, the AGP slot is yellowy/goldish colour, and the slots there are white, I'm not sure if there PCI, or PCI-E.

http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8...rdslots7hx.jpg
^ Link to a pic of my slots.

Thanks,
Josh

Loviatar · Jan 02, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by Josh

Also, that card on the right (red one) is my ATI Sapphire Radeon 9250 128MB AGP 8X, the AGP slot is yellowy/goldish colour, and the slots there are white, I'm not sure if there PCI, or PCI-E.

Thanks,
Josh

if you have AGP you do NOT have PCI-E

it is not mix and match

Mo/R9 · Jan 02, 2006, 11:45 PM // 23:45

The white ones are PCI. PCI-E slots are longer than PCI slots and are usually a different colour. Not always though.

Loki91 · Jan 02, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

those yellow white slots are PCI slots NOT PCIe. (that means that you wont be able to get ny new PCIe cards to fit and function properly), and since you're already using one AGP slot, methinkz you're only option is to either grab a new mobo AND gpu -OR- grab the best AGP graphics card there is (which i believe is either a x850XTPE or a 6800UltraExtreme from ATi and nVidia respectively)

X of Thulcandra · Jan 02, 2006, 11:57 PM // 23:57

HP really screwed me over. I actually just got back from video card hunting (mostly to improve Battlefield 2), and it turns out my 2005 HP Desktop only came with PCI slots. No AGP. No PCI-E. What's even worse is that I have the top-of-the-line PCI card, and BF2 is STILL only comfortably playable on 800x600 on all the low settings. GW runs smoothly, though. Ironically, the computer itself has pretty good specs, 3.00 GHz Pentium IV, 1gb of RAM, 180 gig hard drive. Too bad it just doesn't like Battlefield 2. : (

Lambentviper · Jan 03, 2006, 12:02 AM // 00:02

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Originally Posted by X of Thulcandra

HP really screwed me over. I actually just got back from video card hunting (mostly to improve Battlefield 2), and it turns out my 2005 HP Desktop only came with PCI slots. No AGP. No PCI-E.

same exact thing here. I didnt know Dell didnt put AGP slots in there motherboards!!!

@Josh:
Those are definitly PCI slots, NOT PCI-E. white always indicates a PCI

http://www.viaarena.com/images/articles/pcie%20002.jpg
if you have any questions ^^

Necrotic · Jan 03, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

I suppose its possible that one day we will see a Socket A motherboard with PCI-E, but it's not something I'm going to hold my breath for. And I looked up your specs from the info you gave....definately NOT PCI-E.

Josh · Jan 03, 2006, 12:17 AM // 00:17

For *bleep* sake, lol.

Now I gotta get a nVidia 6600/6800 GT/Ultra/XT AGP card now.

Guess I know what I need next Xmas, Motherboard and Processor (seeming my processor is socket-a, so i presume mobo is socket-a type

! ).

Thanks anyway guys,
Josh

hybridevil1 · Jan 03, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Quote:

if you have AGP you do NOT have PCI-E

it is not mix and match

not true, there are some motherboards, such as mine that has pci, pci-e, and agp 4x/8x

Dex · Jan 03, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by hybridevil1

not true, there are some motherboards, such as mine that has pci, pci-e, and agp 4x/8x

Yep. There are a few new chipsets that are designed to support PCI-E video as well as AGP. Here's a preview of one by ULi:

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2471

@Josh: Yes, those are PCI slots...they're not always white, though. I have a board with red PCI slots...and I've seen yellow ones too. Also, PCI-E slots come in several different sizes. PCI-E 1x is a pretty tiny little slot...even smaller than those ridiculous CNR slots.

@Lambentviper: Dell does include AGP and PCI-E 16x slots in some system configurations. It depends on what product line you're buying from.

Josh · Jan 03, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Ok, thanks again guys.

*Now I'm of to go browse for a new Socket-939 Mobo and Processor

*

Bgnome · Jan 03, 2006, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dex

Yep. There are a few new chipsets that are designed to support PCI-E video as well as AGP. Here's a preview of one by ULi:

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2471

my mobo uses that chipset

ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939
great solution for those looking to upgrade to a 939 mobo and have a decent AGP card already. AGP is full-speed, as opposed to some other boards that use a bus adapter..

Loviatar · Jan 03, 2006, 05:35 PM // 17:35

To All Who Mentioned You can Have Both.

Thanks For Info

hybridevil1 · Jan 04, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

heres my new motherboard i got to go along with my new AMD 64 3200+ i got for christmas

http://www.asrockamerica.com/Products/939DSATA2.htm

PieXags · Jan 04, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Lambentviper

same exact thing here. I didnt know Dell didnt put AGP slots in there motherboards!!!

@Josh:
Those are definitly PCI slots, NOT PCI-E. white always indicates a PCI

http://www.viaarena.com/images/articles/pcie%20002.jpg
if you have any questions ^^

For the record, Dell DOES put AGP/PCI-E slots in their motherboards, if you BUY one with an AGP/PCI-E slot. I bought my computer from Dell a little over a year ago (educational discounts are the main reason), and I just bought a radeon x850xt pe for it. Wonderful card, works wonders on anything.

Lambentviper · Jan 04, 2006, 08:48 PM // 20:48

O, well my mom ordered the computer for me and now she tells me "it was intended for educational use only" as the reason why she didnt get a gamer desktop...but i can deal with that.