Curse

Shaker281 · Aug 11, 2005, 09:08 AM // 09:08

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
AMD 64 3200+
1 Gb Corsair PC3200
Thermaltake Silent Boost W/ Arctic Silver 5
Dual 120 mm Case fans
MSI Radeon RX9800pro W/ Cat 5.7
Antec Truepower 430W

FRESH install of XP Home W/ SP2 (2 hours old) on New 80 GB Partition . All drivers current! Freshly cleaned case (Antec P160), fans & heatsinks.

Immediately upon loading Guildwars I received the "pixelated" screen. Had to restart the computer! BTW, it was pixelating and locking up prior to the reload too.

Curiously, the reason for the fresh OS install was the system refused to load any Catalyst video drivers on boot (claimed incompatibility with windows version). I now wonder if there is a connection with this problem and my initial driver corruption and system refusal to reload drivers!!

Next move is to either open the case and blow a fan in there or go back to 4.x cat drivers.

Barkroot Bonecrunch · Aug 11, 2005, 09:38 AM // 09:38

The secret to overheating is to open a window to let it cool down works for me

midnyte13 · Aug 11, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

My set ran absolutely fine until that last patch....near as i can tell......the problem i am having (lockup) OLNY happens when i have multiple windows open...e.g when trading...its the only time and it is not consistent,,,some times it does some times it doesnt...any ideas?

Kaldor Meshekal · Aug 12, 2005, 01:24 PM // 13:24

I've posted this before, i while back, but might as well do it here too.

I get alot of different 'crashes'. All random:

My computer will restart itself.
The screen with go pixilated with coloured vertical lines.
The screen will go black.
The screen goes black and i get the message 'Mode Not Supported'.
The computer freezes completely.

For all of these, the only thing to do is turn it off at the mains (i have no reset button >.<). This ONLY happens in GW. I can run HL2, Doom 3 etc fine. It will happen anywhere from 1 minute into the game, to 5 hours...

My system Specs:

512MB DDR PC2700 RAM
nVidia GeForce FX5200 128MB
AMD Athlon XP 3000+ (2GHz)
220W PSU ( -.- )
Latest DirectX

I'm about to go buy a new 450W PSU, a new gaming case with lotsa case fans, and an exhaust fan - I have been assuming that my problem lies in the crap PSU, and that i have no cooling in my thin case other than the basic cpu fan/heatsink. I'm about to install those new nVidia drivers now too (77.77)..
...Guess i'll post back here if this doesn't solve my problems. The only other thing i can think of doing is buying a new hard-drive and installing only GW, with the latest drivers and my wireless 'net connection. See if it might be all the shite on my harddrive some how affecting it.

Algren Cole · Aug 12, 2005, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wavelength

I have been having the same problem with random crashing. Usually having to hard boot the computer. Well, today I ran a freeware tool I have called "CleanUp!" and I noticed that one of the last files it erased was "GW.tmp". Next, I started up Guild Wars and entered the mission I have been trying to complete; listening carefully to the sound because it does start to skip before the game poops. Anyway, we didn't complete the mission, (Thursty River) but my game didn't crash. I even turned up some of the video options just to try to push a crash. We'll see with more testing, but I'm very excited that I was able to get through at least one 'session' without problems.

ps, You'll know you dl the right app if it plays toilet flushing sound while it runs.

I haven't done a whole lot of messing around with Guild Wars. I'm still having fun playing it. I will however undoubtedly become bored with playing it and move on to writing hacks for the game(as I have with every other game I have picked up)....but the fact that guild wars isn't deleted the .tmp file when you exit GW makes me wonder. The very first thing you learn about programming .tmp files is that you delete them when the user terminates the game and force a hard delete when the video game crashes. .tmp files should never be left on the system. Bad programmers(or lazy take your pick) will store information in .tmp files instead of doing it the right way. I'll spend some time looking into what ArenaNet is storing in the .tmp files.

Hysteria · Aug 12, 2005, 07:00 PM // 19:00

I just wanted to say that the 9800's do infact run VERY hot and are most likely the reason the owners of those have been having problems. I would recommend owners of those cards that are having issues to run the game for a while with at least the case open or preferably have a fan blowing inside for a short time to see if it might help. It would be interesting to see a poll for owners of various ATI cards (ie.X800, 9800's, 9600's) to see if they have experienced any technical problems while running Guild Wars.

buddhafest · Aug 12, 2005, 10:59 PM // 22:59

My game consistently locks up and the amount of time that passes before locking up is random like someone else's post earlier.

I read the whole thread and there doesn't seeem to be any solutions out there that I haven't already tried.

System Specs
Asus A7n8X-E Deluxe bios 1013
9800 Pro with Artic Cooling ATI Silencer Rev 1
Mobile Barton 2500+ with Thermalright SP-97 Artic Silver 5
Corsair TwinX 2x512 DDR400
Antec Smart Power 2.0 450W

on W2K SP4

Now I have tried pretty much everything I could think of and what most people would suggest in trying to isolate this problem

I tried Catalyst 5.5, 5.6, 5.7 and neither solves the issues and before I even decided to update the drivers I was running Omega Drivers from 4.xx series (don't remember).

I've tried running my chip at an underclocked speed of 2200+ and still no luck

My case panel is open as well as my aftermarket cooling mods that i've placed into my system, so i doubt there is a heating issue

I doubt its a PSU issue.

I've tried running guildwars
on my brothers 9800Pro also with Thermaltakes VGAcooler 3
and on my other
Asus A7N8x-E Deluxe board
with another 2500+ chip with Thermailrights SI-97 Arctive Silver 5
using OCZ ModSTream 450W PSU

so I don't think it's a fault hardware anymore because how can the game be crashing using
two A7N8X-E Deluxes
two 2500+ chips at stock and underclocked
two 9800pros

the only thinking that's the same is the memory and i ran memtest86 with them for more than 12+ hours with no errors and I've run Prime95 for 19hours @ 190x11 1.625v 2.9DDRv..

Although one thing i did notice was that at CAS 2.5-3-36 Gw crashes a lot faster than @ 3-3-3-6

I've also reinstalled the game.

I'm getting very tired at this and might just accept the fact that I can only play for an hour before I have to restart the computer to continue playing GW

boots559 · Aug 13, 2005, 04:49 AM // 04:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by boots559

I'm also having the retarded random crashes anywhere from 20 minutes to 2 hours, few resets and blah blah, lately it's just crashing with the screen not moving, anyway heres my awesome computer info

fic am37 motherboard
http://www.fic.com.tw/product/mother...x?model_id=107
amd althlon xp 2600+ @ 2.1ghz
512 pc2100 memory
the leet realtek ac'97 sound crap from the motherboard
xfx 6600gt agp
420w power supply
40@+5v
18@+12v
30@+3.3v
0.3@-5v
0.8@-12v

not much of a gaming pc but it gets me by, this is the only game i've ever had this much problem with, my video card and cpu run kinda hot. 62C idle on the video card

so i have some arctic silver 5 and a fan card coming in today or tomorrow, the thermal paste on the card has some dirt on it(dirt, the ultimate thermal compound) so i hope that fixes the problem, if it doesn't i'll prob end up selling my acct to my friend for $40 and go buy ut'04 or something. which would suck since i've had high hopes for guild wars since i first heard of it in sept.

It seems i have finally conquered my crashing problems.
after putting an aftermarket gpu cooler on, which didn't help only made it quieter.
what finally fixed it for me is updating the via chipset drivers
http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx...D=1&CatID=1070
i've played for about 6 hours straight with no crashes at all
so i REALLY hope this fixes it, if it doesn't i give up on gw, and will spend the rest of my time playing natural selection waiting for fortress forever to come out

Naline · Aug 13, 2005, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I myself have just purchased a x800 XL from my GeForce 6600 GT and have just experienced this horrible crashing. It never happened with my 6600 GT so I am kindof suprised to see this happen, even with a brand new card. I can run the game for anyuwhere between 5 mins to 4 hours and then, it suddenly goes black(as if in standby) and plays some high pitched noise. I know its not an overheating problem because I can play more graphically intense games for hours on endand this will never happen. I dont know what the deal is, but there seems to be some conflict with the Catalyst Drivers or the ATI chipsets, and Guild Wars. I dont even know if A-Net knows about this yet. I have the latest 5.7 Drivers and the problem still persists, Am I forced to revert to an older driver?

ATI Radeon x800 XL
Antec 400w PS
4x Corsair 512 DDR PC 2700
AMD Athlon 2600+
DFI KT-400 Infinity

Kaldor Meshekal · Aug 14, 2005, 09:04 AM // 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaldor Meshekal

I'm about to install those new nVidia drivers now too (77.77)..
...Guess i'll post back here if this doesn't solve my problems. The only other thing i can think of doing is buying a new hard-drive and installing only GW, with the latest drivers and my wireless 'net connection. See if it might be all the shite on my harddrive some how affecting it.

Well those new Drivers seems to have only made the problem worse, somehow. I get the feeling my problem derives from several different factors. I turned my computer on this morning, loaded up guildwars and BANG, black screen before i even clicked 'Play' with my selected character.

I've just spent too much on a new 550w psu, A8V deluxe motherboard, 512mb pc3200 ddr ram, and gaming case with lotsa case fans and an exhaust fan. If this doesn't solve my problem, that's it; I'm giving up on Guild Wars. Either that or i'm going to bitch to Anet, as it isn't my hardware that causing these RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO ups.

wutdafeezi · Aug 14, 2005, 09:21 AM // 09:21

omg im so glad it just not me experiencing this problem. I haven't played Guild Wars much since BF2 cameout but when I do play the game completely freezes on me! i would have to hold down the button to shut it off. I've tried everything using drive cleaner, re installing drivers, etc. I use a X800 pro

Fixing the Fields · Aug 14, 2005, 02:15 PM // 14:15

This is some crash info GW gave to me after receiving an error:

*--> Crash <--*
Exception: c0000094
App: Gw.exe
ProgramId: 1
Build: 11806
When: 8/14/2005 16:13:15
Flags: 0

*--> System <--*
Name: DANNY-YL8CM73QA
IpAddr: 192.168.1.101
Processors: 2 [GenuineIntel:15:3:4]
OSVersion: 5.1

*--> Thread 0xfffffffe <--*
eax=00000040 ebx=04a154e0 ecx=00000000 edx=00000000 esi=00000040 edi=0000003a
eip=004c0f99 esp=011bf66c ebp=011bf678
cs=210246 ss=001b ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0023 gs=003b efl=00000000

*--> Code <--*
004C0F79 c676198b d1c1e204 3bf27205 8d040989 .v......;.r.....
004C0F89 038b0303 c75f5e5b 5dc20c00 8bc633d2 ....._^[].....3.
004C0F99 f7f185d2 74cd8bc1 5f2bc203 c65e5b5d ....t..._+...^[]
004C0FA9 c20c0090 90909055 8bec568b 750c33c0 .......U..V.u.3.
004C0FB9 85f67426 8b4d0885 c9740f50 506a018b ..t&.M...t.PPj..
004C0FC9 d6e8f100 f4ff85c0 75106a58 68404c6f ........[email protected]

*--> Trace <--*
Pc:004c0f99 Fr:011bf678 Rt:00569d51 Arg:00000040 0000003a 04a154e0 00000000
Pc:00569d51 Fr:011bf724 Rt:005694d7 Arg:00000000 0000003a 04a154d4 00000005
Pc:005694d7 Fr:011bf758 Rt:00568e16 Arg:00000003 011bf780 02008004 0007b7ff
Pc:00568e16 Fr:011bf8a8 Rt:005683c6 Arg:04a15490 00000000 00000001 02138b34
Pc:005683c6 Fr:011bf8d0 Rt:0056e3b9 Arg:00000000 00000001 02138bfc 011bfae8
Pc:0056e3b9 Fr:011bfb2c Rt:00564bfc Arg:021478a8 02147740 000001d4 0000027f
Pc:00564bfc Fr:011bfb4c Rt:0052f905 Arg:000001b4 02147740 02147740 00000000
Pc:0052f905 Fr:011bfb6c Rt:0052e9d6 Arg:02147740 ffffffff 005316de 029e30ec
Pc:0052e9d6 Fr:011bfbd0 Rt:006776a1 Arg:06c54c10 00000000 00000000 3d085171
Pc:006776a1 Fr:011bfbf8 Rt:00677b1d Arg:06c54c10 029e30ec 00000000 3d085171
Pc:00677b1d Fr:011bfc20 Rt:00673389 Arg:029e30ec 00000000 3d085171 3f800000
Pc:00673389 Fr:011bfc48 Rt:00673214 Arg:3d085171 3f800000 011bfc68 029e3070
Pc:00673214 Fr:011bfc60 Rt:00673181 Arg:00000000 3d085171 3f800000 00903058
Pc:00673181 Fr:011bfc88 Rt:0067e332 Arg:00000000 3d085171 00903058 00744f08
Pc:0067e332 Fr:011bfcb8 Rt:006687f4 Arg:3d085171 0000000a 011bfda0 0000003c
Pc:006687f4 Fr:011bfcd0 Rt:00428ae4 Arg:3d085171 00744f08 011bfd1c 011bfda0
Pc:00428ae4 Fr:011bfcf8 Rt:00423a83 Arg:06fa7b30 06fb9e60 0051dded 00000000
Pc:00423a83 Fr:011bfd34 Rt:0051d064 Arg:0000003c 011bfda0 00000000 0e4b5695
Pc:0051d064 Fr:011bfd64 Rt:0051e7bb Arg:011bfda0 00000000 011bfddc 00e80190
Pc:0051e7bb Fr:011bfd88 Rt:0051198c Arg:00000000 0213eafc 0000000c 3d085171
Pc:0051198c Fr:011bfda8 Rt:00510ab4 Arg:00000002 00e7ffa0 011bfe74 00000000
Pc:00510ab4 Fr:011bfde8 Rt:0050b01e Arg:00e7ffc4 0213eaf0 00000004 011bfe74
Pc:0050b01e Fr:011bfe54 Rt:0050ad4c Arg:00000004 00e80190 00000000 0008f422
Pc:0050ad4c Fr:011bfe78 Rt:0050a95e Arg:011bff20 011bff1c ffffffff 00000002
Pc:0050a95e Fr:011bff14 Rt:004d4122 Arg:0050a7e0 00000001 00000002 ffffffff
Pc:004d4122 Fr:011bff34 Rt:004d7dcb Arg:00146970 00dc58e8 00dc5930 cb1f34e0
Pc:004d7dcb Fr:011bff68 Rt:004d1d46 Arg:00000002 7c913d00 00dc5930 00dc5930
Pc:004d1d46 Fr:011bff80 Rt:006c276e Arg:00dc58e8 7c913d00 ffffffff 00dc5930
Pc:006c276e Fr:011bffb4 Rt:7c80b50b Arg:00dc5930 7c913d00 ffffffff 00dc5930
Pc:7c80b50b Fr:011bffec Rt:00000000 Arg:006c270f 00dc5930 00000000 012a0000

*--> Stack <--*
011BF66C 0000003a 04a154d4 00000000 011bf724 :....T......$...
011BF67C 00569d51 00000040 0000003a 04a154e0 Q.V.@...:....T..
011BF68C 00000000 04a154d4 011bf780 7c9106eb .....T.........|
011BF69C 00000003 00000002 00000001 00000003 ................
011BF6AC 011bf608 000000e8 011bf6fc 7c90ee18 ...............|
011BF6BC 7c910570 ffffffff 00000000 004b35c2 p..|.........5K.
011BF6CC 00db0000 00000000 02add698 00000002 ................
011BF6DC 00000002 00000002 000000e8 00000000 ................
011BF6EC 0040104c 000000e8 000000e8 00000000 L.@.............
011BF6FC 011bfb1c 004b4efc 006f3298 ffffffff .....NK..2o.....
011BF70C 011bf72c 004010ba 02add698 02138928 ,.....@.....(...
011BF71C 00000000 00070012 011bf758 005694d7 ........X.....V.
011BF72C 00000000 0000003a 04a154d4 00000005 ....:....T......
011BF73C 04a15490 00000003 04a154d4 00000000 .T.......T......
011BF74C 02138928 00000801 00000000 011bf8a8 (...............
011BF75C 00568e16 00000003 011bf780 02008004 ..V.............
011BF76C 0007b7ff 00000000 00000000 04a15490 .............T..
011BF77C 00000596 00000003 0000000f 0000000f ................
011BF78C 00000000 00000000 00000000 ffffffff ................
011BF79C ffffffff ffffffff 00000009 00000000 ................
011BF7AC 0000000c 00000000 00000001 00000000 ................
011BF7BC ffffffff ffffffff ffffffff 7fffffff ................
011BF7CC 00000001 00000017 00000000 ffffffff ................
011BF7DC 7fffffff 7fffffff ffffffff ffffffff ................
011BF7EC 02008004 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
011BF7FC 02138b34 036082dc 02138928 011bf894 4.....`.(.......
011BF80C 02138928 00000000 c6076e52 4530f893 (.......Rn....0E
011BF81C 02138b34 036082dc 02138b34 02138928 4.....`.4...(...
011BF82C 011bf8e0 005701fe 00001116 00000000 ......W.........
011BF83C 00000001 ffffffff 011bfac8 3f7c1adf ..............|?
011BF84C 3f0d4bd8 ba9ceb97 00000000 bf083455 .K.?........U4..
011BF85C 3f732f7b 0000b5b9 011bf72c 011bf8cc {/s?....,.......
011BF86C 6dfcc330 ffffffff 011bf88c 6defe122 0..m........"..m
011BF87C 0016ddc0 00000001 02008004 00000001 ................
011BF88C 00000596 6def7411 0016ddc0 00000004 .....t.m........
011BF89C 000006b9 00000000 02138928 011bf8d0 ........(.......
011BF8AC 005683c6 04a15490 00000000 00000001 ..V..T..........
011BF8BC 02138b34 03608300 02138928 011bf8b0 4.....`.(.......
011BF8CC 02138928 011bfb2c 0056e3b9 00000000 (...,.....V.....
011BF8DC 00000001 02138bfc 011bfae8 011bfaf4 ................
011BF8EC 011bfafc 011bfb04 011bfae0 04feb028 ............(...
011BF8FC 02138928 00000000 02147740 0003ffe4 (.......@w......
011BF90C 031a43bc 00071eea 000000ff 0000007f .C..............
011BF91C 00000066 00000066 021389ac 02138ad8 f...f...........
011BF92C 0c376134 02138928 000000c0 011bf9b8 4a7.(...........
011BF93C 005c6a0a 00562ec4 00000003 0bd89688 .j\...V.........
011BF94C 445b6c5f 45b0658e c50590b8 07479310 _l[D.e.E......G.
011BF95C 0c3f74e8 011bf9ac 004b39cf 00db0000 .t?......9K.....
011BF96C 00000000 07479310 0c3f74e8 07479310 ......G..t?...G.
011BF97C 0000001e 418d4116 41462092 416e9d9f .....A.A. FA..nA
011BF98C 420d4116 41c62092 41ee9d9f 011bf9ac .A.B. .A...A....
011BF99C 000000e0 0c3f7660 0000006f 4088743e ....`v?.o...>t.@
011BF9AC 407a36d3 c487504b 4000f200 c0584000 .[email protected]....@.@X.
011BF9BC c4876584 011bf9f8 00557394 00000006 .e.......sU.....
011BF9CC 0c55eb48 028c0108 0c3f74e8 00000000 H.U......t?.....
011BF9DC 0016ddc0 011bf9f4 011bfa28 6df1b78c ........(......m
011BF9EC 00000100 00000100 00000004 011bfa24 ............$...
011BF9FC 011bfaa4 0016fce0 011bfa14 011bfaa4 ................
011BFA0C 0016fce0 011bfa28 6defd3ad 00000020 ....(......m ...
011BFA1C 00000008 0016ddc0 00000000 011bfad4 ................
011BFA2C 6def984d 011bfaa4 00000000 02138928 M..m........(...
011BFA3C 02138a50 00000016 00000001 08000001 P...............
011BFA4C 00000004 00040000 00000000 ff66667f .............ff.
011BFA5C 02008004 00000000 6dec8e58 00000001 ........X..m....

*--> LogQueue <--*

*--> DirectX Device Info <--*
VendorId = 0x10de
DeviceId = 0x0343
Version = 6.14.0010.7189
Description = NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE
Compat = 0x00800000
VidMem = 256 MB

Kaleban · Aug 14, 2005, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I dunno if there's some "Hate Player" file included in the latest file update I got this morning, but now, within 5 to 10 seconds of logging in with a character, my game seems to hitch a moment, start agin, than hard lock, with nothing short of a reset or power off/on can fix.

It must have something to do with the game, because I played a good amount last night with no issues, and now I can't play at all.

My system in short:

Athlon 64 3000+
Nvidia GEForce 5700 Ultra
2 GB crucial RAM

buddhafest · Aug 14, 2005, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Okay today I've ben able to run GW for about 6 hours and still going. Even at 1600x1200 with 4x AA and at the highest visual quality.

The only thing is that there is no sound coming out of my GW game, BUT I was running my Winamp and listening to music while playing. It is still running in the background as I type this post.

This leads me to think that the reason my GW kept freezing is the sound drivers.

I am currently using ATI drivers 4.11 as I had assumed it was an ATI driver issue. I will update the drivers back to 5.7 and uninstall my sound drivers to see if the game will lock up.

For those people that are still having freezes and lock ups, maybe you can try reinstalling your sound drivers?

Is there another way to disable sound without having to uninstall the sound drivers?

boots559 · Aug 15, 2005, 02:13 AM // 02:13

-nosound in the target line in the guild wars shorcut disables ingame sound, but taht didn't fix my problem, and i've tryed newer sound drivers and it didn't help, tryed a new sound card that didn't fix it.
i can play with updating my via chipset drivers, but it still crashes alil. i've played since about 9am today with only 2 crashes which is ALOT better than it used to be. just i everytime i wanna play i have to reinstall the drivers and if i restart the computer, it'll go back to crashing. yay

i've changed everything short of the motherboard and cpu. i don't see how it could be either of those tho, i play EVERY other game fine, even bf2 and the fear demo both run great with no crashing, play gw for 10 minutes without the new via drivers and it hard crashes my machine to a black screen.

ppl were saying gw is just more cpu and memory intensive than other games, i run hl2 at maxed out settings @ 2180x1024 no crashing, but can't play gw at 800x600 lowest settings & with -nosound without crashing in about 10 minutes, i don't buy that it's my machine one bit

Shaker281 · Aug 15, 2005, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Mine was a complete re-install of XP home, complete windows update, all new drivers from manufacturers websites (MSI, Creative, ATI, etc.) and this includes chipset drivers, ethernet drivers, Bios flash...but it STILL gave us problems! In the past two years I have never had any app or game lock up or crash this computer except this game. I KNOW it is not my computer!

boots559 · Aug 15, 2005, 04:03 AM // 04:03

i've reinstalled windows many times also, and try to keep drivers up-to-date but my computer being a crappy emachines(i didn't buy it) makes it kind of hard for bios flashs, i went though the loops with arenanet and after awhile they just stoped sending me responses.

wutdafeezi · Aug 15, 2005, 05:26 AM // 05:26

this has to be something with the drivers or maybe GW needs to be patched so we can fix the lockups

Black Forsaken · Aug 15, 2005, 05:28 AM // 05:28

I know this really isnt the time and place but I'm compelled that cat is the coolest thing I've ever seen

Kiriak of Sparta · Aug 15, 2005, 05:42 AM // 05:42

I thought im the only one who is having this very annoying problem...i have sent hundred's of report to gw regerding my crashes...this problem started when the new patch was added..i can play for 8 hours straight before and now im lucky to play 1 hour continuosly..i have installed new graphics card & updates but its still giving me the same problem

(..anyone got a clue?