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Furnace Stoker
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy
Guild: [ban]
Profession: W/
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129155 Interesting note: 806 Newegg customers submitted 5-star ratings for this case. Last edited by MisterB; Feb 27, 2006 at 10:19 PM // 22:19.. |
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Feb 27, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: PS
Profession: Mo/W
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Feb 27, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44
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Exclusive Reclusive
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
Guild: Seraph's Pinion (wing)
Profession: R/Me
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Start here.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=10749 Now, when you have that sorted (it will impact your gaming MUCH more than the CPU) you have to pick AMD vs Intel. What do I think? I won't touch Intel with a 10 foot pole unless it's a business machine and they're adamant. What makes me say that? Besides the fact that I can tear my wife's 820 a new one with a 3000+, cost and performance all around make me say that. I could quote Tom's Hardware Guide (seriously biased BTW) or HardOCP (very good site BTW) but truth is I'm a reviewer myself, and more often than that I'm a beta tester of things you play with every day as a gamer. SLI or CrossFire is related to the first post, but even if you don't go that route get a board that supports it-adding a card a year later CAN (not WILL) double your performance, rest of system notwithstanding. Get at least 1 GB of RAM, and get it in a dual channel kit, all the newest processors support it and the performance increase is rather big by doing 2x512 over 1x1GB. I do recommend 2 GB, for the reason that you're future proofing for Vista (which WILL have high requirements) and for the fact that it's going to cut down on load times or even make other games playable (think BF2) so it's not a lost investment. One of the best kept secrets of the web is G. Skill RAM, and their 2x1GB kit is not only rather affordable, it also overclocks well. Get a good high quality optical drive (just put a Sony DRU-820 in the wife's, reads and writes every format known) and don't skimp on a good quality SATA interface hard drive, your load times depend on that. Also, good stuff is often quieter. Use this as a guide and not the Bible when it comes to these things. I build 2-3 computers a week in my personal business, so I do a lot of this, not just read it in a magazine, but those magazines aren't stupid, either. Read a lot, ask a lot of questions, read some more, comparison shop, and let us know what you got. It's a cause for celebration when someone builds their first computer... |
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Feb 28, 2006, 12:01 AM // 00:01
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Middle-Age-Man
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lansing, Mi
Profession: W/Mo
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Serafita is very experienced. A true believer in more ram. 2Gb will be the next minimum. 1Gb is the minimum now...not 512mb. Always get matched pairs for the dual channel.
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Feb 28, 2006, 01:05 AM // 01:05
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: BEN
Profession: R/N
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A clanmate came up with this list of parts for a price/performace buy the other day- couple guys were looking to upgrade
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227210 eVGA 7800GT 512mb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130256 AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz HT 1MB L2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539 ASUS A8N-E ATX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131530 BenQ FP91G+ Black 19" 8ms LCD Monitor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824014090 $975 after rebates.. go up or down on the chip depending on your budget but you want the nforce 4 chipset and 2 gigs.. this'll run everything out there and you can sli down the road I personally would go with a sempron- just cause they mad overclocking chips.. but this rig is good to go stock =] |
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Feb 28, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Soviet Propaganda [SovP]
Profession: Mo/N
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Gigabyte GA-8I945P-PRO ATX Intel Motherboard - $123.25 -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128293 Intel Pentium 4 630 Prescott 800MHz FSB 2MB L2 Cache LGA 775 EM64T Processor - Retail - $177.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116198 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - $88.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145526 Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $77.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144415 HIS Hightech HX80GOQT256-3TOEN Radeon X800GTO IceQ II Turbo 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail - $190.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161146 NEC Display Solutions LCD1770GX-BK Black 17" 8ms LCD Monitor - $339.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824002284 XION Ultimate Engineering XON-001 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450 Watt Power Supply (P4 & AMD Ready) Power Supply - Retail - $64.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811208001 Logitech Black Wired Value Keyboard - $7.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126170 Logitech Value Black Mouse - $6.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104181 Logitech X-530 5.1 Speaker - $58.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836121118 SONY 16X DVD-ROM 52X CD-R 32X CD-RW 52X CD-ROM 1.5M Cache ATAPI/EIDE Combo Drive - Retail - $54.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106830 Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC - Retail - $63.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103937 $1,252.19 Before rebates $1202.19 After Rebates $1351.19 <--Before Rebates - $1301.19 <-- After Rebates Add in 99 dollars for Windows XP (If I dont borrow my friends copy of Windows XP) $1471.19 <--Before Rebates - $1421.19 <-- After Rebates Add in ~120 for the wireless router i'm going to have to buy (yes I am going to HAVE to buy a wireless router) $1471.19 <--Before Rebates - $1421.19 <--After Rebates Add in Shipping and handeling ($76.78) So those are the two final prices if I have done my math right and if I dont change any prices. I really cannot go up in price I can only go down because I dont even know if i'm going to be able to efford this as it is now. |
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Feb 28, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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if you're on a budget and just want to play games and do the odd bit of office stuff that system is total overkill
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3200BPBOX - Retail $166.00 ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $69.99 MSI Radeon X800 RX800-TD128E Video Card - Retail $123.25 (93.25 fter $30 rebate) thats over $100 saved right there now i know you're going to say its not as powerful and you would be correct. in benchmarks it isnt as powerful. but in real world use you probably wont notice a difference especially not in guild wars as a geforce6600 is sufficient to run it at full quality save a bit more money by not buying a case with a powersupply already installed. you're already buying the antec why pay for another you arent going to use. i estimate you will save another $20 - $30 here Last edited by Lord Cooper; Feb 28, 2006 at 08:45 AM // 08:45.. |
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Feb 28, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: United States
Guild: Clan Foxrunner
Profession: R/P
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Your budget is going to kill you if you want stuff like that-- lots of times you can re-use old equipment like a mouse and keyboard, monitors as well. If you want to go with something completely new though you did pretty good. However, from a gaming point of view I still don't understand why you'd build such a great monster of a system and then use an Intel processor. Mustache Mayhem had a great setup there... if I was looking for a new computer I'd probably go with something similar to what he suggested.
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Mar 01, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Hackers Xtreme [HaX]
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GET THE INTEL P4 HT, if its for gaming and college p4 is ur best choice, and get the ASUS p4s8x motherboard from newegg.com.. sempron and celeron are office chips, not gaming, amd is basically all gaming, p4 has both sides(thats why it cost a bit more) get the 680Watt power supply from geeks.com ($20) get a good 256mb video card for about 80$,and go on from there. 3.4ghz/3.2 ht CPU, grab for 230-300$....
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Mar 01, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Soviet Propaganda [SovP]
Profession: Mo/N
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AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail - $166.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535 Very good reviews on that one. The guy above also said it was a good processor. Kingston HyperX 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - OEM - $102.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144114 Kingston..1GB...cheap (after rebate its like 75 bucks) ASUS A8V Socket 939 VIA K8T800 Pro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $68.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131541 I hope all of the other parts work together. I tried to check that to make sure (knowing little about what I need to check). |
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Mar 01, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Fairfax, VA
Guild: Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)
Profession: W/
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Well, my advice to you is to scratch out your gigabyte motherboard. Pick up a DFI-LP, 120$, and good overclocking possibilites. Video card is alright. I would reccomend to swap over to a 6800gs. Also, for your ram. Pick up ATLEAST 1gb OCZ Platinum ram. Also, if you plan to spend 339$ on a 17 inch monitor, you should go shoot yourself in the foot. Just wait for newegg or Tigerdirect to reduce one of their 19inch monitors down to 199$ after rebates, and pick one up. Shell out 40$ more for DVI. Also the monitor will be 19inch. Response times won't really be a problem. Sure NEC is a good company, but for an extra 140$ and 2 inches less....... You get the point. with that extra 140$, you can put it towards 2gb of ram, or you can but it towards a better case, or if you want a 7800gt. Or if your an audiophile, X-Fi xtreme music. Sure drivers are not that great, but the crystallizer still pumps out amazing sound, and will give you a little more chance to enjoy your x-530 speakers.
Lastly, Please dear god DO NOT SKIMP on your motherboard or your powersupply. Buy a nicely priced 120$ish motherboard, and a non built in powersupply. IF YOU DO NOT PLAN TO OVERCLOCK do NOT buy the amd 3200+. The 10x multiplier you acquire is a nice and good number for overclocking, however if you do not need to overclock just get the 3000+ with a 9x multiplier, which will hinder overclocking ability, but will not make that much of a signifant difference. AMD 3000+=P4 3.0ghz. AMD uses a different scale to measure GHZ but still releases its numbers by the intel scale. Last edited by Blade Rez; Mar 01, 2006 at 02:37 AM // 02:37.. |
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Mar 02, 2006, 09:17 PM // 21:17
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Soviet Propaganda [SovP]
Profession: Mo/N
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Alright I HAVE decided to go with an AMD Processor and I changed a few things on here so here is the final specs unless someone tells me some part is horrible or there is another problem.
ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail - $79.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131569 AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz HT 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail - $166.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535 OCZ Premier Dual Channel 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory - Retail - $88.94 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227069 Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $77.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144415 HIS Hightech HX80GOQT256-3TOEN Radeon X800GTO IceQ II Turbo 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail - $190.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814161146 LG L1780U 17" 12ms Ultra Slim LCD Monitor 250 cd/m2 500:1 0.264mm Pixel Pitch - Retail - $263.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824005035 XION Ultimate Engineering XON-001 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450 Watt Power Supply (P4 & AMD Ready) Power Supply - Retail - $64.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811208001 Logitech Black Wired Value Keyboard - $7.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16823126170 Logitech Value Black Mouse - $6.00 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16826104181 Logitech X-530 5.1 Speaker - $58.99 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836121118 NEC Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE/ATAPI DVD Burner - OEM - $39.75 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827152058 Antec SmartPower 2.0 SP-500 ATX12V 500W Power Supply 115/230 V TUV, UL, CUL, CE, CB, FCC - Retail - $63.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817103937 $1102.64 Before Rebates $1044.64 After Rebates If I get that Motherboard I can get a "Combo Deal" and get Windows XP for cheaper so with Windows XP it will be. 1191.59 Before Rebates 1133.59 After Rebates I will be having to get a Wireless Router and a USB Wirelss Adapter or a PCI adapter. LINKSYS WKUSB54GS IEEE 802.11b/g Wireless-G USB Kit with SpeedBooster - Retail - $123.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16833124177 That is a good router that comes WITH a USB Wireless Adapter 1315.58 Before Rebates 1257.58 After Rebates That is everything I need to be all set. I know many of you have said that I dont have to buy another monitor, keyboard, and mouse. You've said just use my old ones well I cant really do that because I dont have a computer of my own. The computer i'm typing this from is the Family computer so I cant just take their monitor, keyboard, and mouse. Pretty much the only things that I think could possibably be a problem right now are the Motherboard and the Memory. I could upgrade the Memory to 2GB sence i've saved alot of cash. I think that motherboard is a pretty good one but I dont know so any advice is welcome. Thanks! |
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Mar 02, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: United States
Guild: Clan Foxrunner
Profession: R/P
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Well you look like you've done great! I think you'll be pleased with your current setup, regardless of if you increase the amount of RAM or get a better motherboard.
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Mar 02, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Nov 2005
Profession: Me/
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edit: that 7800gt link you posted is not 512mb, its 256 |
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Mar 03, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54
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Middle-Age-Man
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lansing, Mi
Profession: W/Mo
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Getting the 2x512Mb of ram for now is smart. Leaves you two slots for later to increase it to 2Gb. Don't worry on the Vid Card NOT being 512Mb...you will not really see any speed bump for that.
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Mar 03, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: Super Elite Knights of Carnage
Profession: Mo/W
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amd
As far as a CPU goes don't get a multicore for gaming as all games are still single threaded. I would go for the 64 bit option as games are slowly migrating towards being provided in both 32 bit and 64 bit format so you will be ready for it when it happens in full. Get an AMD processor, they work on a front side bus called HyperTransport, which is much faster than Intel's connection to the chipset. Get a motherboard with the nforce4 ultra chipset and PCI-Express x16 for your video card. Get a 90nm core CPU but read forums on how overclockable the particular one you are buying is, as you should get into overclocking and getting more out of your parts for your money. Example: I bought a video card and overclocked it and it is running just as fast as one that is $100 more than my current one. Remember to cool cool cool your system as well. Good luck.
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Mar 03, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Soviet Propaganda [SovP]
Profession: Mo/N
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Mar 03, 2006, 11:38 AM // 11:38
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Middle-Age-Man
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Lansing, Mi
Profession: W/Mo
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I am not sold on mixing different types/brands of ram. Yes it can work...but I make sure I have all the same type/brand in my machines. Less chance for errors. Also your system will run at the speed of the slowest ram chips in there. |
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Mar 03, 2006, 11:46 AM // 11:46
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Black Death Knights
Profession: E/
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the way i read it is he is thinking of getting 2 of the 2x512MB dual channel kits
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Mar 03, 2006, 12:19 PM // 12:19
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Academy Page
Join Date: May 2005
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then get a dual channel 2gb pack. 1024x2
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