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Lateralus · Mar 12, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Hey, I am going to buy ram for a computer that I am making but I need some help on what I should be looking out for... What makes it better than others, and what are the pros and cons of them? I have four cards in mind right now but I don’t really know which one I should pick. If there is a beter set on the sight for about $200 please show me. Also, are these compatible with the motherboard I am going to buy?

Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131540

Ram cards in mind:
#1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145575
#2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146425
#3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227063
#4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227047

Narada · Mar 12, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

I'd say go with your #1, the Corsair XMS dual channel RAM. I don't know about #2 because I've never heard of Mushkin, but they could work fine I suppose. #3 isn't dual channel, so I wouldn't bother. And for #4 I don't believe that your chosen mobo is capable of running that.

cannonfodder · Mar 12, 2006, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Ok, skip the 4th, it's DDR2, it's incomaptible with the asus motherboard.

The first 3 are fine, it is just down to personal preference. My favourite would be the mushkin, it's fantactic RAM.

Narada, just because it doesn't say dual channel, doesn't mean it isn't. It will work just fine in dual channel mode. It just hasn't been tested in a dual channel motherboard.

EDIT This is another option http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220082, I have this ram and it is in the same motherboard

Serafita Kayin · Mar 12, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

#3.

Designed for gaming systems where it has the hell beat out of it, and able if you want to handle massive overclocks, it's the stuff you want. I'd have some too if my blasted refund check would come in... Then I'd be up to 3 GB...

Loviatar · Mar 12, 2006, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by Serafita Kayin

#3.

Designed for gaming systems where it has the hell beat out of it, and able if you want to handle massive overclocks, it's the stuff you want. I'd have some too if my blasted refund check would come in... Then I'd be up to 3 GB...

sigh

wishful thinking only on my part.

i bottomfeed on corsair value ram but i dont OC and it works for me

Narada · Mar 12, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

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Originally Posted by cannonfodder

Narada, just because it doesn't say dual channel, doesn't mean it isn't. It will work just fine in dual channel mode. It just hasn't been tested in a dual channel motherboard.

Whoopsie, my bad.

Do you just Google the RAM and look up its information from its manufacturer since some websites apparently don't give you all the information? I'm confused as to how you'd know by just looking at it.

LiQuId StEeL · Mar 12, 2006, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Look into Crucial. Clocks like mad, and keeps going higher

Of those 4 though, I'd go for OCZ

cannonfodder · Mar 12, 2006, 09:49 PM // 21:49

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Originally Posted by Narada

Whoopsie, my bad.

Do you just Google the RAM and look up its information from its manufacturer since some websites apparently don't give you all the information? I'm confused as to how you'd know by just looking at it.

Go to the motherboard makers site, asus for example, and it'll will tell you compatible ram makes, if i remember correctly the manuals should tell you too.

EDIT- as long as the ram is the same make and size, it will work in dual channel mode, it may even work with different makes, as long as their the same size(never tested that out yet though).

Lateralus · Mar 13, 2006, 03:53 AM // 03:53

Thx for the help.

Including cannonfodders suggestion witch set do you think is the best?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220082

Also, can I get a brief and simple explanation on what 'clocked' means.

Lateralus · Mar 14, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Bump.

A little more info and opninions would be great.

Res Surection · Mar 15, 2006, 12:09 AM // 00:09

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145594

thats what i would get

Narada · Mar 15, 2006, 04:04 PM // 16:04

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Originally Posted by Res Surection

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145594

thats what i would get

That isn't compatible with the motherboard.

Xenrath · Mar 15, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25

I've had Corsair XMS dual channel (DDR2) for a few years now, no issues or instability.

cannonfodder · Mar 15, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

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Originally Posted by Narada

That isn't compatible with the motherboard.

Yup, it is compatible, and it's dam good memory. And for once, Res Surrection has said something sensible.

Josh · Mar 15, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by cannonfodder

Yup, it is compatible, and it's dam good memory. And for once, Res Surrection has said something sensible.

Amazingly enough.

Narada · Mar 15, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

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Originally Posted by cannonfodder

Yup, it is compatible, and it's dam good memory. And for once, Res Surrection has said something sensible.

I don't understand how. I looked up that mobo here and it said it supported PC2100, PC2700, and PC3200. What makes PC3500 special? The manual from Asus doesn't talk about anything except DDR400.

cannonfodder · Mar 15, 2006, 09:53 PM // 21:53

Well Narada, pc3500 runs at 217mhz, it will work fine with most ddr motherboards, its expert ram meant for overclocking, meaning using the ram at stock 217mhz, means you can potentially overclock you processor to 217mhz HTT(FSB), meaning higher clock speed. suprisingly enough with the right motherboad including the asus a8n sli, that ram will do 250mhz(DDR500), with a little bit of know how. But if you want ram that is stable, the corsair is just great. it will downclock its speed to mirror your fsb, so it will work at 200mhz(DDR400). Hope that makes sense to you m8.

At the end of the day it's just normal ddr ram, designed for overclockers

Lateralus · Mar 16, 2006, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Thx for the help, this becoming a little more clear to me but I still have a couple questions.

*** Can I get a quick and simple explanation of what 'clocked' is and is overclock or downclock better?

*** Are more pins better than les?

What is this 'Sli Ready' from Nvida?

Why is the type of card Res Surections picked so expensive?

Tachyon · Mar 16, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

*** Can I get a quick and simple explanation of what 'clocked' is and is overclock or downclock better?

Overclocked just means that by way of either your BIOS or an application you've upped the speed that the memory runs at. The same also applies to your CPU and Graphics card. For example, an Athlon64 3200+ 'Venice' CPU runs at 2.0GHz out of the box, yet with a simple entry in BIOS you can overclock it by 5% giving you a 'new' speed of 2.1GHz (5% of 2.0GHz = 100MHz).

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

*** Are more pins better than les?

Yes the more the better, but that all depends on the slots your motherboard has. If your board has 184pin DIMM slots then you obviously can't stick in the newer 240pin DDR2 memory.

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

What is this 'Sli Ready' from Nvida?

SLi stands for "Scalable Link Interface" and is a way of integrating two graphics cards into one motherboard. You plug in both cards, making sure that they're both the same, and connect them together via a supplied bridge connector. ATI's dual card set-up is called 'Crossfire' and is basically the same thing, just by ATI.

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Originally Posted by Lateralus

Why is the type of card Res Surections picked so expensive?

Mainly because Res Surection doesn't have a clue about computers and has directed you towards Corsair XMS PC3500 RAM. Your motherboard is designed around the PC3200 RAM, I know as I have the exact same motherboard as you. Even if they somehow did work in the motherboard, why pay extra if you're not getting the extra speed?

For Corsair RAM you do pay a little more than average, but it is worth the extra outlay. Myself, I swear by a company called 'Mushkin' who make the best RAM money can buy!

Lateralus · Mar 17, 2006, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Thx for the help Azagoth, but I have two question from what you gave me, and one other for anyone els.

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

Overclocked just means that by way of either your BIOS or an application you've upped the speed that the memory runs at. The same also applies to your CPU and Graphics card. For example, an Athlon64 3200+ 'Venice' CPU runs at 2.0GHz out of the box, yet with a simple entry in BIOS you can overclock it by 5% giving you a 'new' speed of 2.1GHz (5% of 2.0GHz = 100MHz).

So basically... Overclcked means more/heavier use of your computer and vise versa for underclock?

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

Yes the more the better, but that all depends on the slots your motherboard has. If your board has 184pin DIMM slots then you obviously can't stick in the newer 240pin DDR2 memory.

Is it really worth spending more for a 240pin motherboard?

I’m leaning towards the Mushkin set that I posted, but including Cannonfodders choice what do you think is the best out these?
#1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145575
#2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146425
#3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227063
Cannonfodder’s choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220082