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Old Apr 14, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43   #1
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Default CPU usage and guildwars--confused

Ok! I was whining about my computer's slow speed in switching betweeen things
to a friend, and i asked him what his mem. usage for GW was. he replied with 60k. i was amazed/confused/sad. mine is at 180k-260k, 4 times more then his.
is this due to our computers different stats, and if so, how much does this mem usage actually slow my computer? and how can i improve it? is it ram, vid card, processor....
it is a laptop, 2ghz 3200 64bit, 128 dedicated video ram, 200m ati , 512 system ram
thanks for any help

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Old Apr 14, 2006, 05:56 AM // 05:56   #2
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Right Click set priority?
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Old Apr 14, 2006, 06:29 AM // 06:29   #3
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Right Click set priority won't work. Windows resets the priority automatically based on what mode the program is in.

He can try a heapsize switch however. That will cut on memory usage, but GW will saturate just about any CPU on the market unless it has dual cores. Which in that case, one core will be saturated.
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Old Apr 14, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32   #4
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Most likely due to what processes you are running at the time, or what else you are doing besides playing Guild Wars (esepcially when you are in Window Mode).

I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k.

And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20.
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Old Apr 14, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36   #5
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You can eliminate unnecessary startup processes by going to start-run-'msconfig'-startup, and then unchecking the ones you dont need. This helps in deciding which ones to eliminate: www.processlibrary.com
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Old Apr 15, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04   #6
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Most likely due to what processes you are running at the time, or what else you are doing besides playing Guild Wars (esepcially when you are in Window Mode).

I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k.

And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20.
43 processes is a normal number when not using a resource hog like GW.
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Old Apr 15, 2006, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #7
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Most likely due to what processes you are running at the time, or what else you are doing besides playing Guild Wars (esepcially when you are in Window Mode).

I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k.

And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20.
i have a few stopped, but i left all i wasnt sure of
i used Spybot to check/uncheck em
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Old Apr 16, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19   #8
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Right Click set priority won't work. Windows resets the priority automatically based on what mode the program is in.
Applies only for GW, actually [or was GW what you ment by "program"]. GW seems to have some kind of built in priority control, that sets the priority to 'low' when you alt-tab off the game, or while in windowed mode, select another window.

Haven't had any problems with priority settings with other software
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48   #9
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Applies only for GW, actually [or was GW what you ment by "program"]. GW seems to have some kind of built in priority control, that sets the priority to 'low' when you alt-tab off the game, or while in windowed mode, select another window.

Haven't had any problems with priority settings with other software
Nope. Quite a few programs have that type of feature.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 02:15 PM // 14:15   #10
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43 can be a bit excessive on the running processes side. It depends on the users and what they are running on their computer however.

Wrath of Dragons, you say you have used Spybot S&D, but have you scanned with anything else?

If not, please visit my tech website Lunarsoft.net. Head over to the Download section. From there I highly recommend you download the Anti-Malware Pro package.

I also have provided a PC Maintenance guide where you can select the Anti-Malware package you have downloaded that has detailed instructions to follow for settings for each application and the best order for scanning and cleaning your computer.

Should you need any assistance, please feel free to PM me, or make a post on my website.

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Old Apr 17, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22   #11
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From there I highly recommend you download the Anti-Malware Pro package.
Nice package... got some good proggies in there.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00   #12
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excellent pack Tarun. I'll be crediting you with using it on customer's PCs.
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Old Apr 17, 2006, 04:02 PM // 16:02   #13
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Nice package... got some good proggies in there.
Thank you. I've collected and constantly update those packages with freeware found all over the web. There are a few packages made for the bare minimum (Windows 9x/ME - Dialup), and the Full and Pro packages include definition updates for the scanning software; so if people want they can download it all in one shot.

I do however need to update those within the next few days, as a new Windows Defender is out.
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Old Apr 18, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27   #14
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That's a few too many processes for me. I have my computer highly optimized for gaming so it's in the low twenties and that's including an AV running.
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Norton Anti-Virus has a thing about running 1,000 processes.
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Old Apr 18, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49   #16
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Norton Anti-Virus has a thing about running 1,000 processes.
Unfortunately there is nothing good about Norton. Your computer can't operate with it (bogged down by lots of memory eating processes and viruses it will not detect and remove) to the fact that when you uninstall, many things simply won't go. For those things that do go, it breaks Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS). Especially if you use the SymNRT tool to clean and remove the registry. A fellow tech who has taught me much of what I know has created a program that fixes BITS and several other issues with computers. It's called Dial-a-fix.

Dial-a-fix

Dial-a-fix is an advanced utility for Microsoft Windows written by DjLizard in Borland Delphi 7 that repairs various Windows problems, such as:
  • Windows Update errors and problems with Automatic Updates
  • SSL, HTTPS, and Cryptography service (signing/verification) issues
  • COM/ActiveX object errors and missing registry entries
  • and more.

Dial-a-fix (hereby known as "DAF") is a collection of known fixes gleaned from Microsoft Knowledgebase articles, Microsoft MVPs, and other important support forums, that will assist you in repairing problems with your system. Although this tool is ordinarily meant for power users, technicians, and administrators, it is quite safe to use even without technical guidance (although it is recommended). Simply choose the solutions you wish to apply via checkmarks, and click GO. There are other buttons and tools present on the main dialog as well, such as the policy scanner. All tools and checkmarks identify their purpose when you mouse over them.

DAF's primary philosophy is to fix problems by setting various things back to their Microsoft defaults.

DAF works on all pertinent 32-bit versions of Windows: 98, 98SE, Me, 2000, XP, and Server 2003. Dial-a-fix dynamically disables functions that are not applicable to your version of Windows. The version of Windows with the most support and functionality is currently Windows XP.

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Old Apr 19, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09   #17
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Memory leaks: There is no perfect program. No matter how much your code is optimized, there are still possible leaks. So leaving your Guild Wars running over a long period of time can make the memory usage cummulate, especially if you're logged in the game screen. This is something that you cannot do about.

Just close your guild wars and restart it again, computer needs rests too.
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Old Apr 19, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05   #18
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i run avg free, spybot, and adaware. i uninstalled norton, it takes over a computer like AOL. an as for prosesses running, i went to that process library website and checked em out....they all are "necessary". and when i said i was using spybot, i meant i was using it to block startup processes as well as scan.
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You might need to shut down some un needed services in the Service Manager instead of just shutting down processes.
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Old Apr 19, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44   #20
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spybot has a section that lets me choose which processes are allowed to startup or not
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