Curse

Tarun · Aug 10, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

Unfortunately gabrial, it happens very often when it comes to any pagefile discussion. Knowing what's right and what other educated techs practice is more than good enough for me.

RTSFirebat · Aug 10, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by gabrial heart

Yeah, i think the OP has long abadoned this thread, now it's just a clash of will. I think we established between alt+tabbing and extended play gw will get laggy on a 512MB machine.

Yeah, pretty much the game simply doesn't like running on 512Mb.

And I've given up on this as well, some people on the Internet can be plain rude. And I got other threads to look at.

Hope the op sorts out his problem.

Trunce · Aug 10, 2006, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Thanks for all the help. I haven't abondened this thread, just been playing around on Guild Wars too much. ;P

I just realised something, I only get the lag (After 1 hour of course) When I move, not anyone else. It runs like normal, but when I move or rotate camera, that's when I get the lag. Didn't realise that till now.
Anyway, thanks for all your help guys.

Edit: Just saw this

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Originally Posted by Ristaron

I don't want to get in between your little war in here, but perhaps Guild Wars is filling up your caches at a rate that usually takes about an hour (give or take whatever program you are running). Flushing the caches may help.
Or is Guild Wars more sophisticated than that? I used that method via an in-game function ( tab -> flush ) on other games I have played.

*dons precautionary flameproof jacket*

[nubness] how exactly does one flush their cache?[/nubness] This sounds like it might just solve my problem, and right now I'm willing to try anything.

gabrial heart · Aug 10, 2006, 05:43 PM // 17:43

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Originally Posted by Tarun

Unfortunately gabrial, it happens very often when it comes to any pagefile discussion. Knowing what's right and what other educated techs practice is more than good enough for me.

Personally, if people are having problems, offering multiple options to solve some of the issues is more important then what top techs are doing. Most people that post on these forums requiring help are just not top techs and not doing the things with their systems that top techs are doing.

Most of the guys I've spoken with run a user managed size for several reason. One is that they have a RAID or *PCI RAMDRIVE *not out on the market yet btw, or some alternative way to speed up disk thrashing VM. Another is page file adjustments and fragmentation causing the system to slow down dramatically, where as if a size is mapped out initially well above the most demanding apps, so there is no dynamic VM size changing, fragmentation or out of memory errors. I run a clean SATA-150 RAID 0 for VM, so allowing windows to handle it dramatically increases load times and app switching for me. This won't be the case for most of the average GW players out there.

In this case the OP has a 512MB system and mentions a few results when setting different levels of VM. He also mentioned by using a lower VM setting then recommend, he experienced less lag, which may not even include anything he may have been doing in the background when he had the problem (i.e. x-fire or alt+tabbing between apps). In this particular case he may benifit from running in managed size over having windows manage VM. Will this cause other issues with his system, most likely, but we need to address and offer solutions to his typical gaming needs.

There's another thread you posted on about a person with 2 gigs of ram, running 91 processes and of course his solution isn't going to benifit by arguing over his VM settings. Really my point is that each person has a different system and they each run GW differently, with different ways they play and background apps that are running, so to continue with the arguement over VM managment is rather pointless beyond proving one way or the other you are correct and RTS or anyone is giving out misleading info.

Anyway, i've been wrong plenty, let's just leave it at that and move on

Trunce · Aug 11, 2006, 03:38 AM // 03:38

I think the only solution is to get more RAM. However, I want to try the flushing cache method (Can someone tell me how? -.-

as it'll be a while till I can get another 512 stick.

gabrial heart · Aug 11, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by Trunce

I think the only solution is to get more RAM. However, I want to try the flushing cache method (Can someone tell me how? -.-

as it'll be a while till I can get another 512 stick.

I've never heard of that option in gw, if one exists. If you want to flush the memory, easiest way is to close it and open it again.

Trunce · Aug 13, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

Ergh. Well, thanks for all your help guys. Looks like there's pretty much nothign I can do. >.<

Mr D J · Aug 14, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45

I had the same problem. It's the heat that makes your video card stop working at full power. For me it was like 110C. Imagine that... my card got over 110C. Well I modded it and it barely goes over 70 now. Once again IT IS THE HIT IMHO. Nvidia have this build in feature like processors except that it doesnt shut down the computer fully, it just stops working as high end card and starts working at low frequency.

Trunce · Aug 14, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

Eugh. How exactly would I mod my case to help the heat? My dad pretty much built this computer, as he built many before, but yeah..
Any links on anywere to get something to help it would be great.
Just remembered, I do have a big fan in my system, right by the Video card/Motherboard. Might be dust blocking/Hampering it, so I'll try and see if it's working/Clogged.

Xanatas · Aug 15, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45

Try fixing the size of your swap file. (lower number the same as the higher number)

If you allow your swapfile to dynamicaly grow and shrink, it will become fragmented. This means that bits and pieces of it could be all over the partition. Its like ripping the pages out of a book, and put them back in any order. Sure the individual pages will still be readable, but to read it as a whole you need to put the pages back in order.

A swap file with a fixed size will only read and write from the sectors it been asigned to.

To acomplish this, temporarly remove your swap file and use a tool to optimize the placement of files on your hard drive. Windows has a build in version. Rightclick the drive you like to work on in explorer > Properties > one of the tabs.

Trunce · Aug 20, 2006, 08:03 PM // 20:03

Could you be a bit more 'in-depth' please? ;

awesome sauce · Aug 21, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

I'm no "expert" by any means, but I honestly doubt that this is an issue with the pagefile, windows swapfile, overheating, or whatever. When I play GW, I start off with around 400-500 mb of ram available, depending on the size of the town. After a while of playing (usually around an hour), my memory decreases to 200-300 mb available, and stays there for the rest of the time i play. Your problem seems like it's a memory issue. As GW runs, it slowly takes up more and more memory, and ultimately... in your case, it probably runs out. I would just deal with it now and buy more when you can.

Trunce · Aug 21, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05

Well.Thanks for hte help everyone. I guess I have to wait a few months to get this problem fixed. Thanks for you help. This can be deleted/Locked or whatever. >.>