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lordxephon · Sep 10, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Nvidia RIVA TNT2/TNT2 pro
Version: 6.14.0010.5673
Date: 8/3/2004

can i get an updated version of this if you can give me a link that would be greatly appreciated.

Pharoke · Sep 11, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

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Originally Posted by lordxephon

Nvidia RIVA TNT2/TNT2 pro
Version: 6.14.0010.5673
Date: 8/3/2004

can i get an updated version of this if you can give me a link that would be greatly appreciated.

The TNT 2 line has not been produced in a very long time. I am assuming you are looking for a pci video card? If so it is time to upgrade my friend as those haven't been produced in quite a long time either. Current video cards are using a new bus called PCI-Express, which is totally imcompatible with a PCI or AGP slot/bus

Refyused · Sep 11, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

I don't recommend even TRYING to run GW on this card. Old, outdated, most likely unsupported, and sub-par. You can get a Geforce 4 MX 440 (which is not top of the line, but will run GW just fine) for around $40, maybe less. You may need to upgrade your PC though, if you're still running one of those old Rivas..

Tachyon · Sep 11, 2006, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordxephon

Nvidia RIVA TNT2/TNT2 pro
Version: 6.14.0010.5673
Date: 8/3/2004

can i get an updated version of this if you can give me a link that would be greatly appreciated.

Good god, are people still using TNT2's? Years ago I replaced my 16MB Voodoo3 with the 32MB TNT2 Pro and was amazed at how good Deus Ex looked at 1024x768x32.

lordxephon · Sep 11, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

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Originally Posted by Refyused

I don't recommend even TRYING to run GW on this card. Old, outdated, most likely unsupported, and sub-par. You can get a Geforce 4 MX 440 (which is not top of the line, but will run GW just fine) for around $40, maybe less. You may need to upgrade your PC though, if you're still running one of those old Rivas..

I'm running

Windows Xp pro
Pentium III 1GHz
256 MB RAM

would I be able to run it and wheres a good place to buy it?

Tachyon · Sep 11, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

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Originally Posted by lordxephon

I'm running

Windows Xp pro
Pentium III 1GHz
256 MB RAM

would I be able to run it and wheres a good place to buy it?

For a start, no you can't run Guild Wars on that card even if there was somewhere still selling them. They're ancient and aren't made anymore, hell I believe the Pharaohs actually used that card to design the Pyramids. You need at least a DirectX 8 card to run Guild Wars, the TNT2 is only DirectX 5/6!

Secondly, invest in some more RAM. Windows XP alone eats 180-230MB to run, so with 256MB you're not going to have any sort of enjoyable experience with any game.

Thirdly, read the specs on the box/website. That's normally a good starting point to see if you can run the game.

lordxephon · Sep 11, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

For a start, no you can't run Guild Wars on that card even if there was somewhere still selling them. They're ancient and aren't made anymore, hell I believe the Pharaohs actually used that card to design the Pyramids. You need at least a DirectX 8 card to run Guild Wars, the TNT2 is only DirectX 5/6!

Secondly, invest in some more RAM. Windows XP alone eats 180-230MB to run, so with 256MB you're not going to have any sort of enjoyable experience with any game.

Thirdly, read the specs on the box/website. That's normally a good starting point to see if you can run the game.

tnt is the one I already have I wanted to know If i could run Geforce 4 MX 440 because the guy said I might need to upgrade my computer to run it do I?

Windows XP pro
256 MB ram
Pentium III 1.0 GHz

lachescandinavu · Sep 11, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43

well...you need to find out if yer motherboard is compatible with AGP cards at least

yep...reminds me of my 1st pc...had a tnt 64 on it....top of the line....about 6-7 years ago lol

MirkoTeran · Sep 11, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

As far as I remember TNT2 can support DX8 with some limitations. You might be able to run GW with a few tricks.

Download latest drivers from www.nvidia.com and then find some tweaks for it at www.guru3d.com (It is possible to transfer vertex shaders from GPU to CPU with some registry hacks).

lordxephon · Sep 11, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

yeh you guys make my card seem so bad 0.o when im able to play games like GunZ or and FlyFF perfectly I think you guys might be mistakin mine for an older version but thanks anyway guys for the help.

Mushroom · Sep 11, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

The problem basically all boils down to the fact that you are trying to run the game on outdated hardware. Guild Wars has the following as minimum specs:

800 MHz CPU
256 MB RAM
Radeon 8500 or GeForce 3 video card

Your system meets those requirements, other then the video card. You need to move up in that area. And before you invest to much more, consider the recommended minimum system specs:

1 GHz CPU
512 MB RAM
Radeon 9000 or GeForce 4 Video Card

Your system barely meets the CPU recommendation, and does not meet either of the other 2. I would think twice before investing in a video card, because you will probably want to upgrade the entire system. Otherwise, you will never be satisfied with the performance of the game.

There is a saying that I learned 20 years ago when I first started to work on PCs. "Never let the minimum's be your maximum". In other words, never use the minimum specs of hardware or software requirements be the guide to picking a system. The closer you are to the minimum spec, the more likely things will go wrong.

Luckily, computers that exceed the specs have gotten dirt cheap over the last few years. 1.5 GHz plus systems with AGP can normally be picked up used for around $250-350. Since you are right at the end of the Pentium III Cycle, there is really no way to make your system any faster. Even the Pentium 4 which replaced yours is now obsolete because of the newer P-5 (LGA-775) systems. The AMD equivelent (Socket A) has been replaced by first the Socket 754/939 series, and now the AM2 series.

Even with a video card that meets the minimum specs, you will still have issues with frames per second, graphics quality, and performance. I am not saying to not get a graphics card, but I am saying to consider what you really want before you invest the money. It might be better to just upgrade the entire system.

Loviatar · Sep 11, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

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Originally Posted by lordxephon

yeh you guys make my card seem so bad 0.o when im able to play games like GunZ or and FlyFF perfectly I think you guys might be mistakin mine for an older version but thanks anyway guys for the help.

if you are still here this is a site that will test the pc you are using and give a verdict

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http://gameadvisor.futuremark.com/ga.../game_scan.jsp

gabrial heart · Sep 11, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordxephon

yeh you guys make my card seem so bad 0.o when im able to play games like GunZ or and FlyFF perfectly I think you guys might be mistakin mine for an older version but thanks anyway guys for the help.

Neither of those games have requirements as high as GW and are not as graphically intense either. You could say that you can play GW on that card, but if you went to a better card you'd easily wonder how you ever did.

Loviatar · Sep 11, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordxephon

Nvidia RIVA TNT2/TNT2 pro
Version: 6.14.0010.5673
Date: 8/3/2004

can i get an updated version of this if you can give me a link that would be greatly appreciated.

to answer the original question.

no an updated version of that card is not made

Hollerith · Sep 11, 2006, 06:38 PM // 18:38

You're going to run into potential problems with your motherboard. Old P3 boards were using a 3.3v version of the AGP BUS, which is incompatible with cards being produced today. Check out the diagram from Wiki and find how your AGP slot is set up. If it's 3.3v, you'd be hard pressed to upgrade your card.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:AGP_Keys.jpg

lordxephon · Sep 11, 2006, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mushroom

The problem basically all boils down to the fact that you are trying to run the game on outdated hardware. Guild Wars has the following as minimum specs:

800 MHz CPU
256 MB RAM
Radeon 8500 or GeForce 3 video card

Your system meets those requirements, other then the video card. You need to move up in that area. And before you invest to much more, consider the recommended minimum system specs:

1 GHz CPU
512 MB RAM
Radeon 9000 or GeForce 4 Video Card

Your system barely meets the CPU recommendation, and does not meet either of the other 2. I would think twice before investing in a video card, because you will probably want to upgrade the entire system. Otherwise, you will never be satisfied with the performance of the game.

There is a saying that I learned 20 years ago when I first started to work on PCs. "Never let the minimum's be your maximum". In other words, never use the minimum specs of hardware or software requirements be the guide to picking a system. The closer you are to the minimum spec, the more likely things will go wrong.

Luckily, computers that exceed the specs have gotten dirt cheap over the last few years. 1.5 GHz plus systems with AGP can normally be picked up used for around $250-350. Since you are right at the end of the Pentium III Cycle, there is really no way to make your system any faster. Even the Pentium 4 which replaced yours is now obsolete because of the newer P-5 (LGA-775) systems. The AMD equivelent (Socket A) has been replaced by first the Socket 754/939 series, and now the AM2 series.

Even with a video card that meets the minimum specs, you will still have issues with frames per second, graphics quality, and performance. I am not saying to not get a graphics card, but I am saying to consider what you really want before you invest the money. It might be better to just upgrade the entire system.

yeh man i get what ur sayin im not gonna spend to much though so it wont be much of a loss buyin a Geforce 4 MX 440 for 15$.

majoho · Sep 12, 2006, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Just for your information a Geforce 4 MX is still around the min specs, it's really really bad.

The Geforce 4 MX is slower than a Geforce 3.

lordxephon · Sep 12, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

hmm really....well what would you reccomend?

this is the one im buying btw

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEBI%3AIT&rd=1

Hollerith · Sep 12, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

Buy a Dell. You don't even know if you motherboard supports AGP 4X+

lordxephon · Sep 12, 2006, 10:28 PM // 22:28

im using a dell...