Curse

Nov 09, 2006, 03:23 AM // 03:23

2.2gig mobile
2 gigs ddr2 533 dual channel ram
7800 gtx 256 meg video

its not my system specs, and i have 8 meg cable. which i play many other games at max settings with 0 problems.

ive done everything short of a windows reinstall and nothing fixes this kinda lag.

so ya. figue this one out.

Arcador · Nov 09, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Well, I figured my part of the problem - it was pretty stupid thing you know.

I was on FAT32 format and my GW.dat was very close to 4 gb thus every time trying to load something new - bloadting with failure and I got a choppy performance.
NF makes your .dat at if not 4+ gb at least close to that and I think GW uses it for some kind of own swap ? (or maybe not)

After converting to NTFS I got a little slowdown only at the begining and smooth playing almost all the time (big cities are a little slow, but this is cause of the tons of players) My pvp is good again.

So althou sounds silly - check your system and if not - convert it on NTFS.

Nov 09, 2006, 06:49 AM // 06:49

ntfs and my gw.dat is 2.7

Arcador · Nov 09, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

Hmm...another issue might be, but not sure - try running the game with -image command. That way the game will download all its files before starting - which might take very long. I friend of mine told me that he got no problems since he downloaded a big chunk of files.
If you ask me this must not be a problem. Let's hope the tech support guy finds a clue soon.

M1h4iL · Nov 09, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Where do you put the command?

Also heres the reply I got from Anet support team:

Hello Misha,

These entries have been positively identified as malicious programs. In the HijackThis program, place a check mark next to the following entries.

R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {E84DE88B-2633-5DBC-14F4-76E297042392} - (no file)
(Description: An unknown URL Search Hook.)

O2 - BHO: (no name) - {A9AB9FCD-088E-42C3-99E2-8B990C870ED8} - (no file)
(Description: A hidden or missing adware entry.)

1) Press the "Fix checked" button. Then close HijackThis.

2) Then reboot your computer.

3) Empty your recycle bin.

4) Run Windows Update and install all critical updates.

5) Make sure your anti-virus program is up to date with the latest patches. If you do not have an anti-virus program, download and install AVG Personal Edition Anti-Virus, which is free.

6) Reboot one last time.

I also noticed you had quite a few programs running in the background, these could be using system resources that could be used by Guild Wars instead. Please disable all startup items to make sure that no background programs or processes are causing this problem. To do this, click on the Start button, select Run, type MSCONFIG and click OK. This should open the System Configuration Utility. Click on the Startup tab and make sure that ALL entries listed are unchecked. Then click on the Services tab and select Hide All Microsoft Services, then click on Disable All. Once that is done, clicking either OK or Apply should prompt you to restart your computer, which you should do before attempting to play the game again. Do not start any other programs and then try the game again. Please let us know if this helps.

Regards,
Guild Wars Technical Support

Did everything listed, no change. I would like to remind everyone that this lag is happening everywhere, Tyria, Cantha, not just NF.

Rakeris · Nov 09, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

Yeah like some have said before as well as I. It seems for some reason windows or guildwars is setting it's self to "Low" priority. Which for people on it seems lower end PCs causes quite a few problems. As a friend of mine has been having horrible problems latly, sometimes it takes him 5-10 minutes to load a zone. Where it was always longer than me before, but never by that much.

Nov 09, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11

copy pasted, cause i dont feel like typing that again.

i run a laptop.
2.2 mobile
2 gigs ddr2 533 dual channel
nvidia 7800 gtx 256 meg video

so far ive defragged, -imaged, reinstalled guildwars, contigged, reinstalled over 7 different video drivers, ran hijackthis, killed every program in background and tried ,virus scanned with 3 different programs, and ultimately reformatted and installed just windows and needed drivers.

NONE OF THIS HAS HELPED.

so i thought connection.
called my isp and had them run a line quality test. it came back perfect.
its not that theres to many people in my neighborhood with same internet.
i have 6 neighbors.
8 meg down, 356 up.

went to dslreports.com, ran several speed tests from all over the world.
all came up at over 8 megs.

-edit-

thought i should add this.
i run at 1920x1200 resolution.
all settings high with anti aliasing @4x

i also ran it at 800x600, with all settings on low or off with 0 anti aliasing.

same lag, same problems. kinda rules out system problems.

awesome sauce · Nov 09, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

1 GB ddr2
x800xl 256mb
athlon 64 3400+
200Gb 7200 rpm HD

I have problems with some with minor lag/missed steps in major towns, too. But, every computer I have ever seen run GW has had this type of problem. I think it's because the engine tries to reduce load times by loading only the essential stuff first, and then the non-essential stuff while you are walking around (I.E., other people). The fact that you run GW on 1920 by 1200 doesnt help this either, chop it off. Regardless, I think its unavoidable.

Ferris · Nov 09, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Im getting low fps as well: 5-10 FPS in town. I have friends that play NightFalls and Guild wars with no problem.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz
512Mb Ram
Geforce 256Mb 6600- 93.71 drivers
Foxconn 915G7AC motherboard
Direct x 9.0c (october release)
5Mb Cable connection
Windows XP Home Edition

Nov 09, 2006, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by awesome sauce

The fact that you run GW on 1920 by 1200 doesnt help this either, chop it off. Regardless, I think its unavoidable.

please read the rest of my post =-)

i ran it at 800x600 aswell with all settings on low. same lag.

also i noticed that when i open or close my inventory box or skills box, it drops my fps to 0

Keilious Ahruhk · Nov 09, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10072069
Try this, ie. turn off your hardware sound acceleration

Nov 09, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

-nosound is in my target line. i dont listen to game sound at all. so thats not it, for me anyways.

l)l2UNl( · Nov 10, 2006, 05:57 AM // 05:57

well i can tell you that it is not your systems causing this unless you got piece of junk for a machine cause GW is very flexible when it comes to sys. specs.

for me the prob fixed itself...
i was playing a while and then the fps just jumped back up again. i also lowered the sound accel and this helped it by about 5-10 fps

Cherrie · Nov 10, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

I had exactly the same problem, but my spaces were a lot worse...
M1h4iL, you might consider buying some more RAM. I also heard that lowering sound quality both in GW and in system helps. I haven't tried it because I simply bought new CPU and MB (from Celeron 1.8 and gf 6600 running on 4 agp to amd 3500 64bit - which is near 2.8 p4 i htink - and 8 agp for my gc change was MAJOR - I dont have any problems with performance atm; RAM stayed at 1gb).
Annother issue is your connection. You might have fast net but maybe there are problems with connection to GW servers. If it is so, the TCP/IP requires more time from your CPU if packages are lost (to send them again, to organise recived, to check which were lost etc etc - TCP/IP doesnt accept any losage of packages). For me, it worked like that: system had minimum reqs to run Nightfall so CPU was busy and couldnt manage packages right => many were lost => servers asked CPU for even more time to send the lost packages => CPU had even less time => less FPS, more packages lost.... In other words, lag makes your lag worse, its a circle...

bizarresk · Nov 10, 2006, 09:14 AM // 09:14

"amd 3500 64bit - which is near 2.8 p4 i htink"

P4 2.8ghz is not even close to Athlon 64 3500+

aaronsgh · Nov 11, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

1. try disabling directsong if u have it installed/used it before.... directsong causes massive FPS loss for me somehow.

2. lowering your soundhardware acceration slider in windows to zero.

3. also, a dedicated soundcard helps a lot..

gesztenyi · Nov 13, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Same thing here.
I always had crappy fps (5-12) but since NF (especially the last update) it's unbearable. My screen freezes for 30-40 seconds and takes 2-3 minutes to load to an outpost (-image was done).
It annoys me since GW is pretty much unplayable:S

Drakkenauken · Nov 13, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by aaronsgh

1. try disabling directsong if u have it installed/used it before.... directsong causes massive FPS loss for me somehow.

2. lowering your soundhardware acceration slider in windows to zero.

3. also, a dedicated soundcard helps a lot..

How to disalbe directsong? i've some suspect that DS is the cause of my slowdown

Drakkenauken · Nov 13, 2006, 05:46 PM // 17:46

http://www.directsong.com/support/he...view.asp?ID=37
How to disable DS in GW

Dazzler · Nov 14, 2006, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Last night I disabled DirectSong by following the instructions in the link above and my frame-rates in Nightfall went from <10fps to >20fps. I am much happier now.