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Old Jun 19, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38   #1
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Greetings,

So I'm posting this on behalf of my roommate, since I'm the only one with an account.

Alright, here is his problem.

We have three laptops, and two PCs with Guild Wars capacity. Between the three of us, we play the game a lot. The problem comes with one of my roommates desktops. It crashes constantly ONLY for GWs. Sometimes it will freeze. Sometimes it quits. Sometimes it reboots.

When it reboots, we get a "driver error" from Microsofts little auto-help. Well, we've rolled back, updated, re-installed, etc all relevant drivers it lists.

When it just quits, sometimes we get a "hardware error."

The thing is, his computer ONLY crashes for Guild Wars. We've run Doom3 on full high-end settings with no problems, so we know it can handle a good deal of load.

We also have two 600m Dell laptops which are considerably less powered than his PC. Besides an overheating problem (which is solved by playing next to a fan) they never crash, only lag occasionally from heat.

Here are his stats:

AMD Athalon 3200 XP+ (tried both normal and over-clocked)
Nvidia GeForce 6600 GT 128MB DDR2
1 GB RAM
DirectX 9.0c
~200 GB Raid0
~400 GB Raid0

Now we're able to decently run the game on a laptop that's about a third the stats of this. So we're confused a bit here.

The same brand/type of memory in his, is in mine and mine runs wonderfully. We have the same processors. The only difference is I have 2 GB RAM and a 6800 GT 256MB, but our laptops are considerably less in both catagories.

Any ideas? When it crashes 11 times in 45 minutes (last night), it gets a bit annoying!
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56   #2
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This is going to seem crazy, but you said theres very few things different about the two computers right?

Well try to take parts, one by one, from the computer that works, and install them in the non-working computer.

Try putting the working VIdeo Card in the nonworking computer and see if it works, same with RAM, and whatever else is different.

If you put your video card in that computer, and it all of a sudden works - Theres your problem - his card. Same with all other differences.

This could work.
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38   #3
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Try a mem test. Guild Wars doesn't like bad memory.
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Old Jun 19, 2006, 10:45 PM // 22:45   #4
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Are you saying you're sharing one account with three people?
Cause that violates the EULA.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 01:38 AM // 01:38   #5
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you try erasing guildwars itself and redownload
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 09:10 AM // 09:10   #6
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Nvidia 6600.

If it isnt dodgy memory, its the gfx card for sure.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 09:51 AM // 09:51   #7
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I had a similar problem with intermitent rebooting and it turned out to be an issue between the AMD 3500 and the Foxconn motherboard I was using. It only rebooted when playing Guild Wars and was not an overheating issue. I had tried replacing everything piece by piece and when the motherboard was the only thing left I tried replacing with a slightly different model Foxconn. It still rebooted. I even tried an AMD 3000 which helped a little but it still rebooted, just not as often.

Finally I tried a different brand motherboard and it has not rebooted since.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Linda Heartilly
Are you saying you're sharing one account with three people?
Cause that violates the EULA.
What makes you think he does. Reading his post, I understand he's the only one of the three with a GWG account (and two lazy bums, come on, it only takes 2-3 minutes).

As for OP's problem, if your mobos are identical, first check your BIOS RAM settings (did your buddy try some tweaking ?), then reinstall GW (nothing to lose but time). If that doesn't solve it, try switching your RAM altogether.

As for the graphics card, I've had trouble with my 6600 (overheats in Chaos League), but never with GW (1280*960*32, AA 2x), but then again YMMV.
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Old Jun 20, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52   #9
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Thanks everyone, we're in the process of trying it out now.

And Linda, it's one GWG account, 3 GW accounts.
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Old Jun 21, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Linda Heartilly
Are you saying you're sharing one account with three people?
Cause that violates the EULA.
He said he has 3 separate Guild Wars accounts. Read before you type. Don't read and make such accusations when you don't even read the posts properly.

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Nvidia 6600.

If it isnt dodgy memory, its the gfx card for sure.
Your kidding me? A nVidia GeForce 6600 GT can run GW on full detail, possibly with AA and get no lag.
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08   #11
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He said he has 3 separate Guild Wars accounts. Read before you type. Don't read and make such accusations when you don't even read the posts properly.
Aside from the fact that it's not even his business whether they're sharing the GW account, and its not the topic.

On topic, I experience the same problem as described by somebody that when they changed their motherboard it resolved the issue, however when I changed it just stopped BSOD and system freezes and just caused the game client to continuously crash. Either way when you have replaced every part in your system you do wonder what those idiots at anet are doing (or whoever programs/develops), since every half witted programmer knows that you shouldnt be trying to read restricted memory such as byte 28 ... ( The client reports almost EVERY time that it could not read memory address 0x0000001c )
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 01:25 AM // 01:25   #12
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A lot of crashes can be caused by bad memory, overheating components, failing components and a variety of other things. First thing to do is check your memory with memtest (not real sure where to get it but do a search on yahoo or google and it should come up), next check to make sure there is adequate airflow within the suspect computer. I solved my crashes a while ago by cutting a plowhole in the side of my case right over the video card the adding an 80cm fan wich now blows cold air right onto it. As far as ram goes www.cyberguys.com has a small thing called the memory crab which clips right onto the memory and has 2 small fans which bow air onto and around the modules. I have one but determined that it wasn't needed in my system because I am not overclocking. Any extra airflow that you can get going through your computer can help out conciderably.
Hope you get it fixed.

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Old Dec 07, 2006, 02:14 AM // 02:14   #13
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I used to have the exact same problem with crashing as your roommate.

Judging from what you're saying, I don't think it's the same cause, but I'll give my solution anyways. What was happening for me was that I would leave my computer on for weeks at a time (it was the summer and I was always on it, mostly playing GW), and for some reason, the explorer.exe process was eating up vast amounts of memory by the end of the first week. Naturally, there was a memory problem, and that was causing the crash. My solution: if your roommate also leaves that computer running for extended periods of time, just shut it off when he's not using it. When you let it rest for a while and then turn it back on, it should act normally. Like I said, it may not be what you're looking for, but it's just my 2 cents. As you said, it was only for GW that it would do this. It ran Half-Life 2 on high settings just fine.

Hope everything works out for you.
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 05:57 AM // 05:57   #14
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this topic is 6 months old btw
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Old Dec 07, 2006, 06:19 AM // 06:19   #15
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I have to agree with Kyro27, what is the point in resurrecting a dead thread?


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