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Old Jan 22, 2007, 11:17 AM // 11:17   #1
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Hey everyone. I get really bad problems with Guild Wars when I try to play for extended periods with my 8800GTS.

System is as follows:

Antec Smartpower 2.0 500W PSU
P4 3.2Ghz Prescott
1GB Corsair XMS RAM (not sure what model/serial)
DFI S775 975X/G Infinity Conroe Motherboard
2x Hiatchi Deskstar 80GB SATA HDDs
LG DVD-RAM Combo Drive

It isn't artefacting as such, but large patches of a single colour, very angular that take up a good portion of the screen and flicker on and off.

I don't have problems in other games (oblivion, CS:S, HL2, WoW etc.) and it only happens after I play for a while (half an hour-one hour).

I have the latest updates for all drivers and everything.
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Old Jan 22, 2007, 11:26 AM // 11:26   #2
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Your guild is called Overclockers Australia and you cannot fix this on your own . DW, I'm a tech noob myself
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Old Jan 22, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09   #3
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Your guild is called Overclockers Australia and you cannot fix this on your own . DW, I'm a tech noob myself
Can't say I wasn't waiting for that, but I was hoping for a somewhat useful reply with it.

I am good with some aspects of computers, I don't believe it is a hardware problem and driver troubleshooting isn't my strong point.

In the future, useful replies ONLY. Please.
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Old Jan 22, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #4
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latest nvidia driver does that to me. my card is old so i ca use 6x.xx lol
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Old Jan 22, 2007, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #5
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Sounds like an overheating problem. Have you checked the temperature levels when the problem occurs?
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Old Jan 23, 2007, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #6
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You have a 8800GTS and only 1GB of RAM?

Anyway, it does sound like overheating. Clean the dust out of the fan (but, assuming it's so new; you won't have much ...) If you have another PCI card next to the 8800GTS, move it away so more air can reach the card.
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Old Jan 23, 2007, 12:24 PM // 12:24   #7
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Sounds like an overheating problem. Have you checked the temperature levels when the problem occurs?
Normally around 55-70 degrees celcius.
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Old Jan 23, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30   #8
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Normally around 55-70 degrees celcius.
Guild Wars maybe pushing you card further then those other games are in different ways.

Are you overclocking your graphics card? Because if you are it maybe worth reducing the overclocked settings a bit.
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Old Jan 23, 2007, 02:53 PM // 14:53   #9
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For a start, you only have a 500W PSU which is the minimum required for the 8800GTS, the recommended is 600W+. Maybe that is causing some grief as those 8800GTS's seriously draw some power.

I've just entered your details into a PSU calculator and it comes back as you need at least 450W with the components you mentioned. Now throw in all the stuff you didn't mention and that could easily push it up over the limit.
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Old Jan 23, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42   #10
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Try downgrading the Drivers.
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Old Jan 23, 2007, 11:44 PM // 23:44   #11
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Try downgrading the Drivers.
Did you even read the thread??? The ops said this:

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I have the latest updates for all drivers and everything.
So what you posted was a waste of time. ^^
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 12:43 AM // 00:43   #12
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Guild Wars maybe pushing you card further then those other games are in different ways.

Are you overclocking your graphics card? Because if you are it maybe worth reducing the overclocked settings a bit.
Not overclocking yet, I'll check out the PSU idea. Sounds like that's the best bet at the moment.

If anyone comes up with other ideas let me know.

Thanks.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 04:06 AM // 04:06   #13
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Did you even read the thread??? The ops said this:



So what you posted was a waste of time. ^^
Did u even undestood what I sad? DOWN grading. Using an older version of the driver.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 04:23 AM // 04:23   #14
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Did u even undestood what I sad? DOWN grading. Using an older version of the driver.
I think he understood that and also comprehended what I said which was "upgraded to the latest drivers", meaning, I have used older drivers as well. Which I have.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24   #15
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The thing is, there's only a few sets of official drivers with support for the 8800 series of cards, and the earlier ones caused more problems than it's worth. The latest release is by far the most stable.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 04:32 AM // 04:32   #16
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Just something I've only just realised, I only seem to have this problem in the RoT and northern areas of Elona. Really odd.
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Old Jan 24, 2007, 05:49 AM // 05:49   #17
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Agree with Azagoth about power supply.

I've found GW is sensitive with over clocking the video card (and keeping the heat in check). In original guildwars, crystal dessert was always quarkey with even slightly over clocked settings. Other areas were fine when I tried OC the video card.

The other thing it could be if your not over clocking, is maybe corrupted graphics in the gw.dat file?

Back you your gw.dat file, and let it re-download enough of the game (as it demands) and go to that zone. If it works, you most likely have to re-install the game if same issue, just restore your backed up gw.dat file.

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Old Jan 24, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #18
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i had a lot of problems with my 8800gts right after i bought it (xfx, but they all the same). the problem was the drivers. its not enought just to install the latest one, you have to clear out all the old ones and reinstall the drivers.

heres a good guide http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=67799

it also help to have the program drivercleaner pro 1.5 (freeware)
http://www.drivercleaner.net/

after i cleaned and isntalled latest drivers (97.92) evry game works ok.
(im running dualboot with vista and it works ok also drivers 100.30)
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?id=32
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Old Jan 25, 2007, 01:53 PM // 13:53   #19
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For a start, you only have a 500W PSU which is the minimum required for the 8800GTS, the recommended is 600W+. Maybe that is causing some grief as those 8800GTS's seriously draw some power.
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A single 8800GTS has following requirements according to the box:

A 400W PCI Express-compliant system power supply with a combined 12V current rating of 26A or more (Minimum system power requirement based on a typical PC configured with an Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 processor)
I think the PSU is just fine.
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Old Jan 25, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #20
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I think the PSU is just fine.
I don't.

I also agree the PSU is bare minimum for that system. It's very possible that the PSU is working at close to it's maximum output levels and overheating itself. Once a PSU gets hot it's efficiency drops creating lower levels of avaialble power. Not having enough power can manifest itself in very strange behaviors.
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