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dronex · Apr 09, 2007, 07:26 PM // 19:26

Is it 64bit vista? try to update/install drivers aswell as directx .... vista has 10 but not 9 ... (had problems with fear and vista but installing dx9 helps)

kh1ndjal · Apr 09, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

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Originally Posted by dronex

vista has 10 but not 9

no, vista does not have 10, dx10 has not been released as of writing this

im running gw on vista ultimate fine, exactly as on xp, only difference for me is that after loadscreen the screen goes blank for a fraction of a second. i have latest dx9 n my nvidia drivers (for vista) up to date
hope this helps

viper008 · Apr 09, 2007, 08:41 PM // 20:41

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Originally Posted by Azagoth

Not just mine, but everybody I know who's been conned into buying an Alienware POS! Each one of them has declared that never again will they even think about getting one.

Home building is always the best, my current rig will easily wipe the floor with any Alienware system yet it cost about 1/3 of the price to build.

HAHAH, yeah what ever

Lonesamurai · Apr 09, 2007, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by kh1ndjal

no, vista does not have 10, dx10 has not been released as of writing this

Sorry what? DX10 comes as standard with DX10

dronex · Apr 09, 2007, 11:12 PM // 23:12

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no, vista does not have 10, dx10 has not been released as of writing this

Erm what ?

i run in on vista too ;]

Dex · Apr 10, 2007, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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Originally Posted by viper008

HAHAH, yeah what ever

I can't comment on Alienware being good or bad, but I can comment on them being expensive. No computer manufacturer is doing anything different than any other person who's building a computer (besides sometimes using custom motherboards that typically have fewer features and are cheaper to manufacture).

Therefore, since Alienware PCs are absolutely overpriced for their specs, Azagoth's comment that a faster machine can be built for less money is absolutely true. There's not really much room to dispute that, as a matter of fact.

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 01:40 AM // 01:40

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Originally Posted by Dex

I can't comment on Alienware being good or bad, but I can comment on them being expensive. No computer manufacturer is doing anything different than any other person who's building a computer (besides sometimes using custom motherboards that typically have fewer features and are cheaper to manufacture).

Therefore, since Alienware PCs are absolutely overpriced for their specs, Azagoth's comment that a faster machine can be built for less money is absolutely true. There's not really much room to dispute that, as a matter of fact.

Well I'm going to tell you the same thing I told him

That’s your opinion, It's funny I benchmarked mine against my friends that said the same thing and my box out performed theirs.

Than again I really don't care what you or anyone esle can build what ever at cheaper price it doesn't always going to get you faster specs same for more costly price.

So like I said HAHAH, yeah what ever

Dex · Apr 10, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by viper008

Well I'm going to tell you the same thing I told him

That’s your opinion, It's funny I benchmarked mine against my friends that said the same thing and my box out performed theirs.

Than again I really don't care what you or anyone esle can build what ever at cheaper price it doesn't always going to get you faster specs same for more costly price.

So like I said HAHAH, yeah what ever

So, do you think that Alienware is charging more for some kind of magical spell that makes their systems faster, then? Seriously?!?!?

If you've ever looked into building a system you'd know what we're talking about. The specs on your friend's computer are obviously not the same as yours. Perhaps close, but they're obviously not using the same components under the covers. Alienware has the same base components available to them that everyone else does. That fact and their pricing is not an opinion. I'm not ripping on your PC, just stating facts. I've been doing this stuff for a looooong time. Not going to argue with you about it. Thinking that Alienware systems are somehow magically faster doesn't make any sense.

Alienware are overpriced. It's no secret, my friend. It's a quite well-known fact throughout the hardware enthusiast community. Why don't you do some research on it? No need to get your feathers all ruffled about it. Relax.

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by Dex

So, do you think that Alienware is charging more for some kind of magical spell that makes their systems faster, then? Seriously?!?!?

If you've ever looked into building a system you'd know what we're talking about. The specs on your friend's computer are obviously not the same as yours. Perhaps close, but they're obviously not using the same components under the covers. Alienware has the same base components available to them that everyone else does. That fact and their pricing is not an opinion. I'm not ripping on your PC, just stating facts. I've been doing this stuff for a looooong time. Not going to argue with you about it. Thinking that Alienware systems are somehow magically faster doesn't make any sense.

Alienware are overpriced. It's no secret, my friend. It's a quite well-known fact throughout the hardware enthusiast community. Why don't you do some research on it? No need to get your feathers all ruffled about it. Relax.

I have built many pc's thanks and you don't get the HINT I don't care and your just wasting your time trying to argue with me.

Dex · Apr 10, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

@the OP: Have you tried this:

Download the newest drivers for your video card
Completely uninstall the current video drivers
Reboot, if prompted to add new hardware cancel out
Install the video driver you downloaded
Reboot

The reason that I suggest this is that several people I've spoken to recently have purchased PCs with corrupted/dodgy video driver installs from the factory. Uninstalling and reinstalling the driver oftentimes helps this. Black screens are, 9 times out of 10, video driver issues. The driver may be up-to-date, but it might be a bad installation.

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Originally Posted by viper008

I have built many pc's thanks and you don't get the HINT I don't care and your just wasting your time trying to argue with me.

Not arguing with you. I just thought that clarifying that point might be helpful to others. You obviously aren't interested in hearing anything that contradicts your opinion, and are therefore incapable of participating in an actual argument in the first place, so why would I bother?

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 03:17 AM // 03:17

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Originally Posted by Dex

Not arguing with you. I just thought that clarifying that point might be helpful to others. You obviously aren't interested in hearing anything that contradicts your opinion, and are therefore incapable of participating in an actual argument in the first place, so why would I bother?

Everyone always says THEY can build one faster and better and cheaper. That where I stopped "HAHA WHAT EVER" nothing more to say really but you still don't get it do you?

Just the facts, Cheaper (or coslty) doesn't always mean faster or better is why the ""HAHA WHAT EVER"

Congrats on admitting that you are arguing with me.

You and the other guy are just basing your info on opioins from friends or whatever etc. The fact is with Billions of products sold every single day you will always have X amount people say I will never buy from so and so again and this and that is overpriced. Compared to the people that will buy from so and so again and had good experience with X products. With you and the other guy coming in here bashing X product is really helpful? I think Not, You are trying to use your influence over other people that may read & reading this thread to think other wise which wrong.

So know that I've spelled it out for you have a nice life

Syndren · Apr 10, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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Originally Posted by viper008

Everyone always says THEY can build one faster and better and cheaper. That where I stopped "HAHA WHAT EVER" nothing more to say really but you still don't get it do you?

Just the facts, Cheaper (or coslty) doesn't always mean faster or better is why the ""HAHA WHAT EVER"

Congrats on admitting that you are arguing with me.

You and the other guy are just basing your info on opioins from friends or whatever etc. The fact is with Billions of products sold every single day you will always have X amount people say I will never buy from so and so again and this and that is overpriced. Compared to the people that will buy from so and so again and had good experience with X products. With you and the other guy coming in here bashing X product is really helpful? I think Not, You are trying to use your influence over other people that may read & reading this thread to think other wise which wrong.

So know that I've spelled it out for you have a nice life

Urrrgggg I detest replying to posts like these but I can't let a comment like this slide.

Alienware 'product' compromises of the exact same material as any other computer (of the same type). Maybe their case has more fan capacity or maybe its sturdier but two exact systems (regardless of brand name) will rank exactly the same - assuming the same environment and same background processes.

If Nike has a shirt made of 100% cotton and Blue Navy (ok first thing that came to mind) came out with the exact same shirt but with no logo the quality of the shirt is no different. You are paying for a brand name.

There is nothing wrong with paying for a brand name if you are proud of the company (or various other reasons) but as someone else mentioned there is no 'magic' involved in the piecing together of a computer that Alienware has an advantage over.

There is clearly a difference in approach between you and the people your 'arguing' with. I right now am seeing them as level headed and they are definitely not trying to push their opinions on you. You need to take a breather and cool down.

If you do believe in magic though... I make computers with my ultra secret special sauce.

EDIT: to try to be more in topic....
This should not happen for GW but try to set the GW.exe to only one core. But lets try to cover all the bases shall we?
ctrl-alt-del -> Task Manager -> Processes -> Select and right-click GW.exe -> select "Set Affinity" -> only select "CPU 0"

Also try the suggested re installation of the video driver as Dex has mentioned.

You may also want to try a 3-rd party video driver and see if that solves your issue

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Syndren

Urrrgggg I detest replying to posts like these but I can't let a comment like this slide.

Alienware 'product' compromises of the exact same material as any other computer (of the same type). Maybe their case has more fan capacity or maybe its sturdier but two exact systems (regardless of brand name) will rank exactly the same - assuming the same environment and same background processes.

If Nike has a shirt made of 100% cotton and Blue Navy (ok first thing that came to mind) came out with the exact same shirt but with no logo the quality of the shirt is no different. You are paying for a brand name.

There is nothing wrong with paying for a brand name if you are proud of the company (or various other reasons) but as someone else mentioned there is no 'magic' involved in the piecing together of a computer that Alienware has an advantage over.

There is clearly a difference in approach between you and the people your 'arguing' with. I right now am seeing them as level headed and they are definitely trying to push their opinions on you. You need to take a breather and cool down.

If you do believe in magic though... I make computers with my ultra secret special sauce.

"take a breather and cool down" Now that's funny, oh and read first page I got mine for FREE from a contest.

"detest replying to posts like these" Because its true?

Syndren · Apr 10, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

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Originally Posted by viper008

"take a breather and cool down" Now that's funny, oh and read first page I got mine for FREE from a contest.

"detest replying to posts like these" Because its true?

I was referring to in general its ok to buy a brand name. Everyone does it some time or another - because.. you know... your not the only one that is going to read my reply.

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"detest replying to posts like these" Because its true?

umm... yes? I do detest replying to posts like the one you posted before. They always bring a reply like this which I feel is inadequate.

P.S trolling much? :P

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 04:09 AM // 04:09

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Originally Posted by Syndren

P.S trolling much? :P

Nope, I did actually offer some help like many others did as well, on first page.

Fava · Apr 10, 2007, 04:19 AM // 04:19

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Originally Posted by Dex

@the OP: Have you tried this:

Download the newest drivers for your video card
Completely uninstall the current video drivers
Reboot, if prompted to add new hardware cancel out
Install the video driver you downloaded
Reboot

The reason that I suggest this is that several people I've spoken to recently have purchased PCs with corrupted/dodgy video driver installs from the factory. Uninstalling and reinstalling the driver oftentimes helps this. Black screens are, 9 times out of 10, video driver issues. The driver may be up-to-date, but it might be a bad installation.

Did all that and still black screen. Do you think it could be my ppu thats causing it?

cannonfodder · Apr 10, 2007, 05:08 AM // 05:08

OK quit the arguing about alienware..... DO NOT hijack this guys thread, either contribute or dont post, simple as that....

cannonfodder

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by Fava

Did all that and still black screen. Do you think it could be my ppu thats causing it?

You can disable the Ageia card in device manager also without having to take it out of the pc and see if you get the same results.

viper008 · Apr 10, 2007, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Originally Posted by cannonfodder

OK quit the arguing about alienware..... DO NOT hijack this guys thread, either contribute or dont post, simple as that....

cannonfodder

Exactly, I tried but they can't the hint for some reason but few want to be push overs and harass me in Via PM.

Fava · Apr 10, 2007, 05:39 AM // 05:39

i disabled the ageia processor and rebooted. still black screen and ocean sound. oh my god what is wrong with my computer?!?!