Curse

easyg · Apr 26, 2007, 07:25 AM // 07:25

Some people might've missed this.

Benchies from DailyTech. Card being tested is the top-of-the-line ATI Radeon HD 2800 XTX which was supposed to compete directly with the nVidia 8800GTX.

Link to the full article here: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=7052

In a nutshell, the card sucks. No other way to put it

Sad, truly sad. Article says the Radeon HD 2800 XTX card will prolly never enter commercial production with two board partners having already told DailyTech that they want nothing to do with it.

Yanman.be · Apr 26, 2007, 07:44 AM // 07:44

/cheer for my 8800GTX.

easyg · Apr 26, 2007, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Unfortunately, it also means that people who might wanna buy an 8800GTX or 8800GTX Ultra will still have to pay a high premium, since ATI won't have a product to compete for the high-end.

easyg · Apr 26, 2007, 11:15 AM // 11:15

More on the R600....

It appears ATI confirmed (in Tunisia) that HD 2900 (R600) will not be able to compete with 8800GTX:

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...703&Item id=1

Horrifyingly shocking considering the release date is 6-months after G80.

Seems like all the news coming out of AMD these days is bad....

Empedocles · Apr 26, 2007, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

/cheer for my 8800GTX.

Failure of ATI is the worst thing Nvidia fan can wish for.

I'm sure you figure out why.

bhavv · Apr 26, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

The poor performance could just be due to immature drivers at this stage, although its still a shame with how late ATI have been with this, ezpecially after merging with AMD and being given a few billion dollors to invest lol.

Yanman.be · Apr 26, 2007, 01:35 PM // 13:35

I know Empedocles. But it wasn't my money so /care.

TreeDude · Apr 26, 2007, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Immature drivers for sure. The XTX and XT are nearly identical in performance. Considering the clock difference that should not be. XT beat out the GTS which is its competitor in price.

http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Radeon+...rticle7043.htm

I wouldn't say they are doomed.

easyg · Apr 26, 2007, 05:56 PM // 17:56

One way or another, nVidia will own the GPU speed crown for at least another 2+ months, with AMD saying no XTX till at least 3rd Quarter 2007.

Interestingly, there is a parallel on the CPU front. The lack of K10 benchmarks and information is making a lot of people nervous, especially since Intel has already got benchmarks out for its 45nm cpus (Penryn). Last year, Intel pulled Conroe in 3 months after a similar announcement. Current speculation is Penryn will enter the server market October this year, 2 months ahead of the official published launch date. But the rumor mill is saying Intel could do an end run by pulling it in before Barcy, perhaps in August.

If that happens, AMD may not own the absolute performance crown in CPU (or GPU) anytime this year.

darksiege · Apr 27, 2007, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeDude

Immature drivers for sure. The XTX and XT are nearly identical in performance. Considering the clock difference that should not be. XT beat out the GTS which is its competitor in price.

http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Radeon+...rticle7043.htm

I wouldn't say they are doomed.

If you read the article properly, it says they were tested using retail drivers already.

Whirling Wanda · Apr 27, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01

must be a memory issue, xtx uses gddr4, right? the rest of the lineup uses gddr3. i hope they can clear this up with a new driver release.besides for the public relations hit, how much will this really hurt amd? like how many people are actually able to afford $600 for a video card? 1 percent of the total vga market? less?

EiS · Apr 27, 2007, 03:43 AM // 03:43

I also see something strange in the review they are benching the 2900xtx at stock clocks and they 8800 GTX is at OCed clocks that not very fair even if its just the venders OCes its still not fair its eather stock to stock or OCed to OCed not stock to OCed thats a strage review they should use reference clocks for both cards not one reference and one vender OCed

easyg · Apr 27, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by EiS

I also see something strange in the review they are benching the 2900xtx at stock clocks and they 8800 GTX is at OCed clocks that not very fair even if its just the venders OCes its still not fair its eather stock to stock or OCed to OCed not stock to OCed thats a strage review they should use reference clocks for both cards not one reference and one vender OCed

Rumor mill has the 8800 Ultra being released 5/15/07, about same time (if not the same day) R600 is set to rollout. Since the 8800 Ultra is just an overclocked 8800GTX, the 650MHz core frequency was prolly chosen to emulate Ultra's performance.

Having said that, a 13% oc from 575MHz to 650MHz can't explain away the across-the-board 30-50 percent higher FPS for G80.

In any event, the point is moot since R600 will roll out without a high-end card in the lineup. Even if you want an XTX, you won't be able to purchase one any time soon.