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May 03, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
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New PC tell me what you think
Ok i have some done some shopping around and found this i am a bit concerned about the processor but he other stuff looks pretty good. Let me know what you think www.vigorgaming.com Hornet AE system
PROCESSOR AMD Athlon 64 X2 AM2 4000+ Processor at 2.1GHz, 2000MHz FSB, 512KB X 2 Cache RIG COOLING Vigor Cool BlastTM Air Vent with Dual 90MM and 80MM (Top) Case Fan RIG POWER Standard AMD/Intel Certified 500 Watt Power Supply MB CORE LOGIC MSI K9N4 SLI-F nVidia nForce 500 SLI w/2000MHz FSB MEMORY 2GB Corsair TWIN2X2048-5400C4 DDR2 675MHz Memory (2 X 1024MB) HARD DRIVE 1 200GB S-ATA II 7200 RPM Hard Drive VIDEO CARD (SLI SLOT 1) nVidia GeForce 8600 GTS 256MB Xtreme Edition @690MHz, DVI and TV Out OPTICAL DRIVE 1 Internal DVD+CD Rewritable Combo Drive 16X52X32X52 SOUND Digital High Definition 3D 7.1 8-Channel Sound NETWORK PORT Onboard Gigabit (10/100/1000Mbps) PCI Network Card I/O PORTS 1 Parallel, 1 Game/Midi and 10 USB ports OPERATING SYSTEM Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP2 w/Original Disc Price: $888.00 I have to say that the system that flyinhigh spec out looks really nice especially if I go with the Radeon x1950xt's that Dex recommended...although I am a bit concerned about what hit sinks/fans/whatever else cooling systems I may need to get....and to ensure that the case that I pick has sufficient venelation and stuff. I am gonna skip on getting a new monitor/keyboard/mouse at this time since i can easily talk my wife into getting one of those later... :-) so how does what Dex and Flyinhigh compare to what i have posted above compare any ideas?? Again thanks guys for all your help. Last edited by Coridan; May 05, 2007 at 12:48 PM // 12:48.. |
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May 03, 2007, 04:21 PM // 16:21
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Banned
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Belgium
Guild: [ROSE]
Profession: A/
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I think I'm hungry.
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May 03, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Texas
Guild: Phoolz Like Us
Profession: E/Me
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Impossible to tell. In the interests of assuring you get the minimum required performance out of the system, send it to me for a more in-depth technical analysis.
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May 03, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
Guild: Players And Their Handbooks
Profession: E/Mo
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You can check out a bench mark testing of that ATI card comapred to the GeForce 8800 here. nVidia also already has out some cheaper 8 series GeForces(or atleast I think they do, or are about to), all of which are DX10 compatible. |
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May 03, 2007, 05:10 PM // 17:10
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: meh
Guild: wtfpwned
Profession: N/
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point 1: how much do you have to spend?
point 2: if it aint core 2, intel gets it azz handed to it by ANY amd chip for less money. point 3: vista sucks, get xp. point 4: that x1300 is outdated now, i wouldn't go for a ati anything right now, go for a 7900gs point 5: can you put legos together? if you can you can build a computer. i have probly around 200 computers built and i service them at work all the time. my job is to make sure that my employer gets good dollar to performance from this stuff. dont buy high end... ever..... go mid grade, you can make rocking for 700$ not including monitor, keyboard, mouse, speaker. |
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May 03, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: League Of Friends [LOF]
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If you really want to buy that Dell, I would recommend making the following changes:
- Get the Core 2 Duo E6300 for an extra $40 (much much better than Pentium D 915) - Upgrade to the 160GB HD for an extra $50 (80GB is not nearly enough these days) - Switch to the Digital Flat Panel for an extra $50 (it makes a big difference compared to analog) - Get the Dell A525 speakers for an extra $10 (not sure how good they are, but I'm pretty sure the monitor-attached speakers are junk) - Save $178 by switching to Vista Home Premium and dumping Norton Internet Security More RAM and a better graphics card would be nice, but Dell's upgrades are overpriced. You can upgrade these yourself when you feel that you need it. |
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May 03, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Exit 9 NJ Trnpk
Guild: The Roaming Gnomes[roam]
Profession: N/Me
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for $1k you can really do better than Dell without to much sweat. Check out www.newegg.com and/or pick up a copy of PC Gamer or whatever PC game type magazine is available to you. check some of the other new PC find posts in this section as well for some ideas and help
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May 04, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
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excellent guys thanks for you help and i think i am gonna look around a bit like was suggested thanks for the detailed reply Storm Lord
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May 04, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Feb 2006
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yeah, i too would be inclined to look around.. dont think that PC is too hot, seems like its all old spce components they trying to clear out... for 1000 bucks you must be able to pick up something pretty sweet that will do the job for a year or two
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May 04, 2007, 09:52 AM // 09:52
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2006
Profession: P/
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Pentium D - junk, get a Core 2 Duo
Vista Business - junk, get XP The video card is junk. Well, not junk but pretty close. The ATi X1950 Pro is a sweet card at an awesome price. It flat out rocks. It's worlds ahead of anything short of the nVidia 8800 series. 1GB or ram is basically the bare minimum now. Dell will rip you a new one to double it, look elsewhere. The 667 speed is rather slow now-a-days too. The hard drive is okay. 80GB is lots unless you're a download RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO. Get the DVD burner, they're cheap and way more useful. If you can build your own, do so. That money will be wasted on a pretty crappy Dell. A grand won't get you much anymore, but it will get a lot more than from Dell. |
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May 04, 2007, 10:01 AM // 10:01
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]
Profession: R/
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I have to agree with some of the above, Vista sucks (atleast until Service pack 1 comes out), Xp rules. If you are gonna use Vista ur gonan need a Serious boost in Ram, 1 gig Ram isnt enough for a Vista based system u need atleast 2 Gigs. Same with the Harddrive Vista is gonna take up a good proportion of ur Harddrive leaving u with little room for other programs or documents, a 200gig HD would be better and there fairly cheap to pick up.
Processor isnt too bad but could be better if ur using Vista. Not sure about The graphics Card (Im not expert at them) but it seems ok So overall its not too bad but its a Little Underpowered for a Vista System which could cause problems if u multi-task or have high demand programs (which most newish programs/games are.) |
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May 04, 2007, 06:43 PM // 18:43
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: meh
Guild: wtfpwned
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ok, good now that we have a price base. 1000 $ is easy.
so on that note processor: intel e6300 core 2: 167$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115005 mobo: biostar : 75$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813138034 ram: geil 2 gig: 93$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820144047 hard drive: 250 gig: 65$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144417 case: any atx spec case thats under 50$ power supply: FSP 58$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817104954 monitor: 19 in 160$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824112177 video card: basically any 7900gs: 145$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130056 keyboard: whatever floats your boat, keep it under 50$ couple of fans: 6$ windows xp mce: 110$ total: 979$ plus a little shipping and depending on accessories (mouse, keyboard, case, operating system  ) may be cheaper.this is a kick azz rig. to know a bit off the price go for a lower vid card and is lightyears ahead of a @$%&&$# dell. |
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May 04, 2007, 09:02 PM // 21:02
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NW Arkansas
Guild: Players And Their Handbooks
Profession: E/Mo
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This is the system I built last September with parts off of Newegg.com. I listed the prices so you can get an idea of what I paid 8 months ago to build a pretty decent gaming machine, though I wish I could have gone socket AM2 and gotten a dual core processor on my MoBo you work with what you can get. Since building this I've also adding another 7600 GS of the exact same brand and model. Prices since I built have gone down too, especially video cards. With S&H this system came out to US$1,248.11. I'm sure shopping on Newegg you can find parts to build something better than this, and maybe even cheaper.
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May 04, 2007, 11:50 PM // 23:50
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Chicago, IL
Guild: Black Belt Jones
Profession: R/Me
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102067 |
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May 05, 2007, 09:55 PM // 21:55
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
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ok so i really like the system that Dex and Flyinhigh have speced out but i am not sure what I need as far cooling goes and the type of case to get? Also do i need somehting with more power than 520w since I will be getting the Radeon x1950xt's series card?
Ok well hopefully i wll get a little more help. I really have no clue as to what type of Case I need to get I want something that will have enough fan slots and vents etc. No clue on type of heat sink that i need do i just need one for the CPUs or do i need one for the video card and for the memory as well. or do those last to need independent fans?? Also does 450w supply enough power for this rig...i read somewhere that the ok so i really like the system that Dex and Flyinhigh have speced out but i am not sure what I need as far cooling goes and the type of case to get? Also do i need somehting with more power than 450w since I will be getting the Radeon x1950xt's series card i heard somehwere that they need 550w but now i can't find that post. You guys are great and truely a lot of help. If you happen to need something in game just let me know!! Last edited by Coridan; May 06, 2007 at 12:04 AM // 00:04.. |
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May 06, 2007, 12:04 AM // 00:04
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: meh
Guild: wtfpwned
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if your gettigna 1950 you may want ot bump up to a 550 to 600 watt psu, cuz they are a power hawg. also there is no point in getting a sli board if your running a ati card.
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May 07, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: south mississippi
Guild: Warriors Of Melos WOM
Profession: E/N
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Here are my system specs for comparision:
Intel 651 3.4 ghz cpu Intel D975Xbx extreme Mobo 2 gigs kingston ram 2 WD raptors mirrored ATI X1900XTX HP DVD rewriter Cd rewriter (I forgot the manufacturer) and a water cooling system (not realy needed for the cpu but helps keep the interior temps down) All powered by an Enermax Noisetaker 2 420 watt psu. Unless you plan on going sli or crossfire anything over that is unecessary. Mega Mouse Last edited by MegaMouse; May 08, 2007 at 12:10 AM // 00:10.. |
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