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Raiin Maker · Sep 05, 2007, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Hi there all. I've had my PC for almost a year now, and i have to say its perfect in all but two ways. As stated on the review of the computer the PC's fans are VERY loud, almost such as it sounds similar to a regular inefficient free standing fan. The only other problem about that was it came with a poor mouse and keyboard. The keyboard was replaced instantly, however a new better mouse was not an item i owned, and thus i left the old one.

The old mouse now is insufficient, it is quite uncomfortable and is prone to jerking around a bit. The fans, although not too bad when being used, can be quite irritating if the PC is left on overnight to run a virus scan/defrag ect.

What i need is your opinions on a decent gaming mouse, corded or not is not an issue. Looking to spend around £50 there.

My fans (both CPU and power) both need replacing to much quieter versions. I am quite ignorant on the subjects of fans, however i do run two screens, meaning that they may(?

) need to be efficient as well as quiet.

I have asked you guys many questions in the past, and your knowledge on all topics, important or minor rivals that of any customer service, and is usually put forward in a much nicer tone.

Thanks for any suggestions you make. And i apologize for any grammar issues, as my browser has a spell correct i use that as much as possible (due to amazingly poor spelling ability's) and i can sometime click the wrong word.

Thanks again for all your help and time!

~End Of Ze World

Moakieuk · Sep 05, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Silent Running fans are fairly easy. It would be good to look to companies like Akasa for silent running fans, but most companies that do fans will sell near-silent ball bearing fans (you don't want sleeve bearing fans... they vibrate like mad and create a lot of noise).

There are, however, a few things you can do to reduce the noise level. The noise is simply the vibration from your fans being passed, and slightly amplified, by the case of your PC. So, Little rubber washer behind the case screws between the case and the fan will help to reduce vibration. They are available from lots of different places, but noise reduction kits specifically for the purpose are available.

Don't bother jamming a pencil in the fan blades... it will just chew the pencil and (usually) cause more noise, as it knocks the dust particles around the motor spindle loose. Just replace them.

You can also get an adapter sleeve that enables you to change the standard FAN on your Heatsink for a 8cm Case fan. This will reduce noise, as it will be able to rotate at a much lower RPM to create the same amount of airflow.

In terms of gaming Mice, the Razorback is incredibly popular (around £ 40 they are a reasonable buy). However, a decent Keyboard/cordless Mouse Combination from Microsoft or Logitech will set you back similar sort of money.

So, silent ball bearing fans, rubber spacers between the fans and the case, adapter the CPU fan and it runs really quietly.

It is worth nothing also that the fans in the Power Supply can generate a lot of noise. Look at a silent Power Supply.

hope that helps

Moakie

Malice Black · Sep 05, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Razer products are great. I use the Copperhead, it isn't cheap at £50 though.

Raiin Maker · Sep 05, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Thanks for the advice guys, I've been looking at the Razor mice, the Diamondback specifically.

The fans are going to take a little longer however as i am going to have to take apart my PC to find out the sizes of mine to compare to the ones i need to purchase, as well as find some positive reviews of the products themselves.

I appreciate your help greatly and would like to thank you once again for assisting me!

Zodiak · Sep 05, 2007, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Thermalright currently makes The BEST coolers right now. If your looking for the best air cooling solution for your CPU, look for the Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme!

http://www.anandtech.com/casecooling...oc.aspx?i=2943

Depending on the type of CPU you have, you might have to get a bolting kit to go with it.

I recommend installing a Scythe fan as shown, they are silent and increase its cooling capacities

Now as far as the fan on your Power Supply, if its slowing down or needs replacing, then im affraid your going to have to replace the unit itself. I do NOT recommend opening the power supply and trying to fanangle a new fan to it unless you want to suffer from a case of Death. Power Supplies retain a large charge even after being powered down for long periods of time.

lordpwn · Sep 05, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Logitech's MX518 is also a pretty popular gaming mouse, and for a good reason. It's relatively cheap, has a very high-quality optical sensor and plenty of buttons. Personally I don't really like the style of the Razer mice but both Logitech's and Razer's "gaming mice" are certainly good enough so just find one that feels nice to use for long periods of time.

As for the fans, I agree with the above posts - few bigger fans running at lower speeds are generally better than a lot of small fans running at 10000 RPM (and making a buzzsaw-like noise while at it). If your motherboard supports it you could also set up automatic fan speed control so they don't run as fast when you're not doing something that puts load on the computer.

Don't open the PSU unless you have a real-life friend with rez, or some prior experience with this kind of electronics. If you keep it unplugged for a day or two it probably won't have enough charge to kill you unless you somehow get it to shock you straight through the chest, but you could break the power supply anyways and get nasty electrical burns in the process.

Mork from Ork · Sep 05, 2007, 10:25 PM // 22:25

For the CPU I love Thermaltake's V1 - it does a tremendous job, looks great and is very quiet. But it is huge! You would need to make sure it would fit in your case. (also the copper radiator blades can draw a little blood if you bump them)

zamial · Sep 06, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

I recently bought the above mentioned logitech mouse and I love it.(mine has a cord) I will say that cordless is cool but I promise the batteries will die at the most inopportune time.

kirby2096 · Sep 06, 2007, 02:09 PM // 14:09

For £50, you can get the Guild Wars edition Razer Deathadder from the PlayNC Store; the best optical mouse out right now based on the praise it gets from reviews.

Raiin Maker · Sep 06, 2007, 06:46 PM // 18:46

At the moment i am looking at the Diamondback and DeathAdder mice. The DeathAdder is the best mouse apparently ever reviewed by many reviewers, however the DeathAdder only has 5 buttons (3 of those the standard ones i have already) while the Diamondback has 7. I frequently play games where addition buttons so close could benefit greatly, however the extra sensitivity and speed of DeathAdder is tempting. What do you guys think?

Zodiak · Sep 06, 2007, 07:05 PM // 19:05

I say go Buttons. Mice with increasing DPI just arent made for human input. Higher DPI just means that you have to move your mouse a shorter distance to achieve a greater virtual distance.

With increasing DPI there will be a point where higher DPI will mean nothing as you will not be able to control it and that many people with these high DPI mice find themselves keeping the mouse on the default DPI setting.

Extra buttons however are always usefull aslong as you find a specific use for them and train yourself to use these new functions regularly.

Raiin Maker · Sep 06, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiak

I say go Buttons. Mice with increasing DPI just arent made for human input. Higher DPI just means that you have to move your mouse a shorter distance to achieve a greater virtual distance.

With increasing DPI there will be a point where higher DPI will mean nothing as you will not be able to control it and that many people with these high DPI mice find themselves keeping the mouse on the default DPI setting.

Extra buttons however are always usefull aslong as you find a specific use for them and train yourself to use these new functions regularly.

Yeah thats what i thought, i play various games like World of Warcraft where more buttons means i can master the game much easier by making my decisions faster without delay. Plus its cheaper!

Raiin Maker · Sep 06, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

Ah I've just seen the Copperhead. The extra £10 dosen't really mean that much to me, however i am not sure if i will benefit from any of the extra ones. Anyone know if the Copperhead is worth more than the Diamondback?

Malice Black · Sep 06, 2007, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Copperhead is great, and it glows in the dark

Raiin Maker · Sep 06, 2007, 07:49 PM // 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malice Black

Copperhead is great, and it glows in the dark

Yeah it looks amazing, and has A LOT more features than the Diamondback for only £10 more. I think this is what i intend to buy.

kirby2096 · Sep 06, 2007, 09:03 PM // 21:03

I have the Copperhead (Chaos Green); it's good if you like high sensitivity/have a high rez monitor, it has great tracking and the side buttons are easier to reach than the Diamondback's.
The downsides dampen the enjoyment a tad though; the tracking is "too good", so if you like to move your mouse off the surface of your mat it'll continue to track your movements and your pointer continues to fly around until you drop it to the mat again. Razer have rectified this with the new 4000dpi 3G laser mouse Lachesis, if you want to wait for that.
I also find that the Copperhead isn't as ergonomic as mice that conform to the palm of your hand, so it'll take a while to get used to it; and being an ambidextrous mouse the Copperhead's side buttons on the side of your pinky finger aren't really suited for regular use, best to have two thumbs on one hand ^^

tijo · Sep 07, 2007, 03:46 AM // 03:46

I recently bought the Habu microsoft mouse. It's made by razer and i like it. It's simple in design yet comfortable. To me the 7 programmable buttons are more than enough. The interesting thing about that mouse is that it comes with 2 sets of side buttons, one with larger buttons and one with smaller buttons which can be swapped. Might not seem like much, but it helps to keep the buttons out of the way depending on how you place oyur hand on the mouse.