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terminator · Dec 02, 2007, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Hey everyone, i have been playing guild wars for 30 months now, on and off. my computer is not very good so GW lags loads!

I want to get a laptop, as i will be going to college next year. I will wont the laptop to smoothly run GW, and i was hoping someone could say if this laptop could run it.

BASE--Intel® Pentium® Dual Core Processor T2330 (1.60GHz,533MHz )
OPERATING SYSTEM--Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium - English
HARDWARE SUPPORT--1 Year Base Warranty - Collect & Return
COLOUR CHOICE--Jet Black Colour with Matte Finish & 2.0mp camera
LCD--15.4" Wide Screen WXGA (1280 x 800) Display
MEMORY--2048MB 667MHz Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM [2x1024]
HARD DRIVE--160GB (5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
GRAPHICS CARD--nVidia® GeForce™ Go 8600M GT with 256MB DDR2 dedicated graphic memory
OPTICAL DRIVE--Fixed Internal 8X DVD+/-RW Drive including Software
PRIMARY BATTERY--Primary 6-cell Lithium-Ion Battery (56 WHr)

Laptop = £539

Or should i upgrade the Intel pentium dual core for an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5250 (1.5GHz,667MHz,2MB L2 cache) for an extra £20

If this laptop wouldnt run GW smoothly could you plz reccommend another laptop, in the price range of £500.

Thank you.

my2cent · Dec 02, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

yes it will run, i run on bit lower spec and everything is on max.

cebalrai · Dec 02, 2007, 01:29 PM // 13:29

That laptop is way more than enough.

Dreamwar · Dec 02, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

It will run smoothly, i have this:

Manufacturer: FOXCONN
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1920MB RAM
Hard Drive: 361 GB Total
Video Card: RADEON 9800 XT
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Sound Card: Realtek HD Audio output
Speakers/Headphones: Trust hs-2400
Keyboard: USB-hoofdhub
Mouse: Trust Predator (800 or 1600 dpI)
Mouse Surface: http://www.madmouse.nl/images/prod_gamer.jpg
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
And i run it smoothly on highest, about 30 ping.

Upgrade to the second processor.

tijo · Dec 02, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08

Yup, it will run everythin smoothly at max settings.

Quaker · Dec 02, 2007, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by terminator

......Or should i upgrade the Intel pentium dual core for an Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor T5250 (1.5GHz,667MHz,2MB L2 cache) for an extra £20

My guess would be that the Core 2 would be worth the extra.

tijo · Dec 02, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

My guess would be that the Core 2 would be worth the extra.

Yeah it will especially if you are using other programs like itunes when playing.

terminator · Dec 02, 2007, 07:28 PM // 19:28

Thank you everyone for your help, i have thought about getting this laptop for a while. Sometime during next week i am hopefully going to be ordering it

so thanks again for your help.

Lord Sojar · Dec 02, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

Upgrade to the Core 2!!! Oh for the love of god. @_@ Please don't ever use a Pentium....evil Netburst failed architecture that must be burned from society...

Draginvry · Dec 03, 2007, 03:28 AM // 03:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by tijo

Yeah it will especially if you are using other programs like itunes when playing.

iTunes is sort of a memory hog to begin with.

You can't see me · Dec 03, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Upgrade to the Core 2!!! Oh for the love of god. @_@ Please don't ever use a Pentium....evil Netburst failed architecture that must be burned from society...

Never thought I'd see the day where we agreed.

Lord Sojar · Dec 03, 2007, 05:13 AM // 05:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by You can't see me

Never thought I'd see the day where we agreed.

I am sure we agree on many things, we just have to find them.

Want to light the torch and I will throw it on Netburst, or vice versa?

Josh · Dec 03, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

For £20 and an upgrade to Core 2 Duo? Of course!

Should run Guild Wars fine at all max settings, possibly even with 2/4x AA!

Guild Wars is a beautiful game, yet because of it's MMORPG'ness like style, it doesn't really require a 30+ constant frames per second rate for it to 'appear' smooth to you.. Hell, when I had my old ATI Radeon 9250, I played all max (no AA, wasn't supported, haha!) and got a constant 20ish FPS with a bit of a dip of 10FPS in large firefights, even then I only noticed it a little bit. The eye can only see tell a difference on most games from about 20-30FPS (25-30fps maybe).. First person shooter games such as CS:S, BF2, BF2142, Crysis, etc - is where you need all those frames per second - usually wanting a constant 60+ FPS rate.

Now I play on my new Intel C2D rig with an ATI X1950 Pro 512MB at 80+ constant FPS with all settings cranked up to the max with 4x AA, even then in firefights only dipping to 40-50fps!

Love it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamwar

It will run smoothly, i have this:

Manufacturer: FOXCONN
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 1920MB RAM
Hard Drive: 361 GB Total
Video Card: RADEON 9800 XT
Monitor: Plug en Play-monitor
Sound Card: Realtek HD Audio output
Speakers/Headphones: Trust hs-2400
Keyboard: USB-hoofdhub
Mouse: Trust Predator (800 or 1600 dpI)
Mouse Surface: http://www.madmouse.nl/images/prod_gamer.jpg
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
And i run it smoothly on highest, about 30 ping.

Upgrade to the second processor.

What's your ping got to do with anything?

Alperuzi · Dec 04, 2007, 12:26 PM // 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Upgrade to the Core 2!!! Oh for the love of god. @_@ Please don't ever use a Pentium....evil Netburst failed architecture that must be burned from society...

That Pentium Dual Core is not Netburst, its also Core microarchitecture, just with a different name

In this case, both CPU's are virtually identical with cache and FSB being the only differences.

Lord Sojar · Dec 04, 2007, 01:00 PM // 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alperuzi

That Pentium Dual Core is not Netburst, its also Core microarchitecture, just with a different name

In this case, both CPU's are virtually identical with cache and FSB being the only differences.

EDIT: I just realized, you are correct. I was thinking of the 2130 Dual Core, which is P6 based Yonah. This is a Mermon core, I believe revision 2/M? @_@ Check me if I am wrong. Still, its not true Core architecture, merely a hybrid. True Core archetype is found in the actual Core and Core 2 processors. But good catch anyways, made me think twice.

Alperuzi · Dec 04, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Take a look at this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors

The T2330 is a Core microarchitecture, its Merom, not Yonah. The Previous Pentium-M's aren't Netburst as well, they are P6. You are thinking desktop CPUs, which were not the same as laptop CPUs until recently.

Lord Sojar · Dec 04, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alperuzi

Take a look at this list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...icroprocessors

The T2330 is a Core microarchitecture. Actually it even has 64 bit extensions which the Core brand CPUs do not have. The Previous Pentium-M's aren't Netburst as well, they are P6.

See my edit above.

Mermom rev 1 is true Core for mobile, it really was the pivotal point at which Intel unified desktop and mobile lineups. But alas, if the 2330 is Mermon rev 2/M, then it is Core. Still, Mermon is an odd core in and of itself. It doesn't quite lineup with the true Core architechture, because it borrows parts of the P6.

Alperuzi · Dec 04, 2007, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Both CPU's are exactly the same, hence being upgradeable.

The upgrade will give terminator 100Mhz less speed, 1MB more cache and 133MHz more FSB.

I'd get it though, since doubling the cache would probably mean much more performance in a bunch of areas.

Lord Sojar · Dec 04, 2007, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alperuzi

Both CPU's are exactly the same, hence being upgradeable.

The upgrade will give terminator 100Mhz less speed, 1MB more cache and 133MHz more FSB.

I'd get it though, since doubling the cache would probably mean much more performance in a bunch of areas.

Just because they are upgradeable doesn't mean they are the same. One is a Mermon core, the other is Mermon 2/M. @_@ The upgrade is worth the money, certainly. I despise the 2/M core, simply because it is so Laptoppy....is that a word...? w/e

The core structure is, ironically, more "advanced" in the lower end CPU, but in reality, that isn't always better.

The Way Out · Dec 04, 2007, 07:27 PM // 19:27

That system is overkill for gw as it is now... are you prepping for gw2? Also, yes that system will run gw in x4AA... easily... the only issue is whether or not the system is going to remain with Vista (memory hog)... and is the video card dedicated system or otherwise... (big difference). You can run GW on a overclocked Pentium III...

GW isn't a really hardware taxing game... but that is a decent laptop to run it on. Gratz!