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Wrath Of Dragons · Dec 06, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

So, my laptop is feeling its age. I bought it right at 2 years ago, and it still works great, but I cant afford a desktop right now, and this suits my purposes well enough. A while ago, i added a gig of ram, and not too long ago went up from 80 to a 120 harddrive
~200 total, instead of the 1200+ i will spend on a desktop. but anyways...

Ok, after doing some reasearch, it looks like my computer has a socket 939mobo. Now, keep in mind this is a laptop, not a desktop so cooling/power is a bigger issue. Right now, I get ~2hrs battery, which is fine for me.

At the moment I have an AMD athalon 3200 ~2ghz x64 processor. I am seeing a couple different wattages, tho and that is confusing me. Most are 89 watt, some are 67. I would assume that higher watts = more power consump/heat.

67 watt

So, is it safe to upgrade the processor, or will i wind up underclocking and overheating anyways?
Dual cores are available in the 939 too.....can i use a dual core in just any mobo that has the socket? I would really like the dual....I tend to have a lot of things going at once.

Remember, this is a <90$ change...nothing major.

Laptop Model:
Info gathered from powerleap.com <--nifty little website i found today...runs a scan and gives you this info page. no virus found...yet

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ntitled-19.jpg
zv6130us
1.274g ram
AMD athalon 64 3200+ 2ghz
x200m 128 dedicated video....super sukky, but im stuck with that. Huge bottleneck, i know

Here are the ones i am looking at:
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Lord Sojar · Dec 06, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

First and formost, you do not put in a desktop processor of a higher magnitude into a laptop setting unless you want serious issues to arise (unless manufacturing tech has dropped). Secondly, are you sure you can upgrade the processor (aka, sure it is soldered into the socket?) Third, you will need new thermal compound when doing the install.

Also, make sure your motherboard supports the chip change to dual core or a new fab processor. Call the manufacturer. Since it is already probably outside warranty, ask them about process compatibility. If they refuse to answer, you will have to dig for that info. It is around somewhere.

But really, there are no real options to upgrade to. You are taking a HUGE risk by putting in a higher level processor into a laptop. The only professional recommendation I can make is to use a 65nm processor, but alas, there are no Socket 939 versions.

THE ONLY OPTION is provided that your current CPU is on the CMOS 130nm production fab.

Then you MIGHT be able to upgrade to this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103052

Other then that, your stuck. You need to check the manufacturing process of your CPU.

Easiest way to check is use this:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/...fo/CPU-Z.shtml

Let me the manufacturing tech (also known as fab) of your CPU please. 130nm or 90nm?

Wrath Of Dragons · Dec 06, 2007, 07:12 PM // 19:12

looks like a 130. this thing is old hehe.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...ntitled-20.png

Wrath Of Dragons · Dec 10, 2007, 11:23 PM // 23:23

bump. added the info

Lurid · Dec 10, 2007, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Save your money. If you want a noticeable performance change, make it 2GB of RAM and call it a day. The new CPU isn't going to add any noticeable gain at all, you'd be better off to use the money elsewhere.

Malice Black · Dec 11, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Upgrading a laptop CPU is no easy task. Are you sure you can even access your CPU? some laptops are sealed (except the RAM)

I wouldn't bother. Look into buying a new laptop.

rockdirect.com <~~I plug them a lot, but they are good machines (will ship to US)

Sager/Clevo resellers. Most likely find the same model in the US under different name.

Lord Sojar · Dec 11, 2007, 04:16 AM // 04:16

Wrath, your best bet if you really want to try this is a 90nm processor with similar voltage/thermal envelopes. Otherwise, your for sure going to fry your lappy.

Considering your processor is running at 1.150v, and I noticed it is only running at 1000MHz (aka 1Ghz not 2) that means either AMD cool and quiet is on (but CPUZ usually ignores that) or they underclocked your CPU to meet the thermal design of your laptop (that would explain the low voltage)

The ONLY option you have (if and ONLY IF you motherboard can support the core revisions, SSE3 additions, and updated memory controller) is this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103222

and that may be pushing it. I can't see your laptop's internal cooling structure, nor can I see the BIOS type and revision. So this essentially is advice from Stevie Wonder (aka blind)

Hyper.nl · Dec 11, 2007, 08:03 AM // 08:03

Unless you are an experienced computer tech, I cannot recommend replacing a laptop's processor yourself. You may want to visit the shop you got it from and discuss upgrade options there.

Besides of that, I really recommend any gamer to buy/build desktop/tower computers instead of laptops because of the better performance, cooling and upgradability.

redant751 · Dec 11, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Laptops are great for most apps, but are not that great for gaming.
As far as changing the CPU on a laptop, not allots of PC shops like to do that as you run in too many Voltage and thermal issues. Also remember that lap top CPU are structurally different that there desktop counter parts (Different voltage setting) and actual size (thickness).New Egg use to sell them a while back but have not seen one up for sale in quite a while.
I purchased a Laptop CPU for use on a desktop once and that did not work all that well (Voltage Issues with my motherboard).I ended up having to run it at a lower clock speed and it still was buggy as hell. I hope this helps.

Good luck with that.

Alperuzi · Dec 11, 2007, 10:43 AM // 10:43

The biggest problem you'd face when upgrading a laptop CPU is BIOS support for the new CPU microcodes.

You cannot be sure that your laptop BIOS supports other CPUs, but it does look like you have a desktop CPU in there.

I would be interested to see actually if it supports an Athlon X2

Check if similar HP models have such CPUs.