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majestikk · Apr 09, 2008, 01:25 AM // 01:25

okay well first I guess to simplify everything for me and explain it
does the Bytes/s = ping?

The numbers jump around from about 95-102 quite frequently
and the ping on the hovering dot shows 200-300 last ping

so is the -perf information what I should be looking for and will that equal my ping?
I tried to google byte/s to millisecond or bytes/s to ping but I couldn't figure it out

also sometimes the bytes spike up to 1200 and the ping doesn't really change

Kyrein · Apr 09, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33

high ping is a bad thing

ping is the time taken for information to travel between your computer and the server

the number of bytes has nothing to do with it

Admael · Apr 09, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Bytes per second != ping.

Ping is just the latency between YOU and the SERVER. More b/s won't do you any good if the server isn't responding (resulting in higher ping).

It's a mutual partnership!

KZaske · Apr 09, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by majestikk

okay well first I guess to simplify everything for me and explain it
does the Bytes/s = ping?

The numbers jump around from about 95-102 quite frequently
and the ping on the hovering dot shows 200-300 last ping

so is the -perf information what I should be looking for and will that equal my ping?
I tried to google byte/s to millisecond or bytes/s to ping but I couldn't figure it out

also sometimes the bytes spike up to 1200 and the ping doesn't really change

I am assuming that you are refering to the command line parameter (startup option) "-perf." This command line option has nothing to do with ping and does not effect ping on most systems. Ping can effect the readout, but not a whole lot.
As mentioned above; ping is the number milliseconds (1/1000th of a second) it takes for information to reach the server and return to you.
The -perf options shows Triangles/FPS/bps.
Triangles = How many triangles your video card is processing per second. Most graphic engines use triangles to make up objects.
FPS = Frames per second, as displayed by your monitor.
bps = Bits per second of data transferred across your video buss (PCI, AGP, PCI-E).

If you are interested there is an article on the offical wiki about the "Command Line Arguments" it is however not quite as detailed.
http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line

I hope this helps.

majestikk · Apr 09, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by KZaske

I am assuming that you are refering to the command line parameter (startup option) "-perf." This command line option has nothing to do with ping and does not effect ping on most systems. Ping can effect the readout, but not a whole lot.
As mentioned above; ping is the number milliseconds (1/1000th of a second) it takes for information to reach the server and return to you.
The -perf options shows Triangles/FPS/bps.
Triangles = How many triangles your video card is processing per second. Most graphic engines use triangles to make up objects.
FPS = Frames per second, as displayed by your monitor.
bps = Bits per second of data transferred across your video buss (PCI, AGP, PCI-E).

If you are interested there is an article on the offical wiki about the "Command Line Arguments" it is however not quite as detailed.
http://www.wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line

I hope this helps.

this helped the most I think
hmmm new idea then!
permanent displayed ping number wise
or can you do that already?

Chthon · Apr 09, 2008, 04:10 AM // 04:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by majestikk

okay well first I guess to simplify everything for me and explain it
does the Bytes/s = ping?

No. Ping is milliseconds for a ping request packet to go round trip.

KZaske · Apr 09, 2008, 05:35 AM // 05:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by majestikk

this helped the most I think
hmmm new idea then!
permanent displayed ping number wise
or can you do that already?

They already did, move your mouse over the green/yellow/red dot and it displays your most recent ping, average ping for the last 15 seconds (according to wiki that is the best guess last time I checked) and the TCP/IP address of the server you are connected to.

majestikk · Apr 09, 2008, 05:51 AM // 05:51

I mean't to be able to see the ping without having to hold your mouse over the dot

KZaske · Apr 09, 2008, 08:42 AM // 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by majestikk

I mean't to be able to see the ping without having to hold your mouse over the dot

From what I was told, the dot is as close as we are going to get to what you want. Yes it was asked for, we got the dot. It answers the need, if you move it to where it is easy to get to, sort of. In short; there is no way that I know of to display what you are looking for.

Tachyon · Apr 09, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Given that my post about it being ANets crappy servers that are the problem as been deleted, is this site now being biased?

Aren't we allowed to criticise the almighty ANet and there shoddy support and infrastructure anymore?

Blackhearted · Apr 09, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Given that my post about it being ANets crappy servers that are the problem as been deleted, is this site now being biased?

Aren't we allowed to criticise the almighty ANet and there shoddy support and infrastructure anymore?

Site has been biased the whole time it's existed. The mods are delete happy at anything that criticizes anet in the least. Hell, they'll attack something if it's something that they just happen to "not like" too.

How much you wanna bet they'll attack this post too?

Chthon · Apr 10, 2008, 02:49 AM // 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Aren't we allowed to criticise the almighty ANet and there shoddy support and infrastructure anymore?

Go ahead, but I won't believe you without a tracert to back it up. Well over 99% of my connectivity problems have been caused by my ISP or an intermediate node. On the rare occasions that people actually post tracert's accompanying their lag complaints, it's usually the same thing. 99% of the lag users experience isn't a-net's fault, and 99% of the complaints about the lag are people who don't understand squat about networking making uninformed and misdirected accusations about a-net's service. So I can totally see why your post was deleted.

(I do, however, understand your frustration with support. They don't know anything about networks either, so trying to work with them to locate a problem -- or convince them that there actually is a problem on their end in the rare cases there is one -- is irritating and borderline-impossible.)

Brianna · Apr 10, 2008, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

Given that my post about it being ANets crappy servers that are the problem as been deleted, is this site now being biased?

Aren't we allowed to criticise the almighty ANet and there shoddy support and infrastructure anymore?

I think they just delete it because those comments are unnecessary and don't really help the topic of discussion, so they try to keep it clean and all that jazz.

I've had plenty of posts deleted, but I don't blame them, I've been pretty rampant and said some unnecessary things too, and they just did their job and kept it clean.

Anyhow I always use the -Perf command line just to check my FPS always, I like to watch it to see what type of performance I get, and hovering over the dot is annoying, so -Perf is useful to me, Bytes and Tri I don't really pay attention to.

KZaske · Apr 10, 2008, 07:37 AM // 07:37

I too use the command line -pref to track FPS. I don't really pay attention to triangles and bPS unless I am testing a new video driver. Strange how the best nividia drivers were between versions 85 & 97. Since then they have off-loaded quite a bit onto the CPU. I guess it goes in cycles. /sigh