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Jun 23, 2005, 01:57 PM // 13:57
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: W/E
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Unfortunately, I am having the hard freeze problems too.
 It happens usually once an hour, but sometimes I can play for many hours without a crash.Athlon XP 2100+ Giga-byte GA-7s748 MB (SIS chipset) ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB (Catalyst 5.5 drivers) Creative Audigy I 2 512 MB sticks PC2700 RAM Windows XP, SP2 |
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Jun 23, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Uk, England.
Profession: E/Mo
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Do you have Audio on Board as per the details on the website. If so, have you tried completely uninstalling your Audigy 1 and drivers and then running with only the Onboard Sound enabled. Also, with regards to the ATI Drivers, Roll these back to Cat 4.11 as I think they are more stable on the older 9xxx series cards and work just as well and probably better than the Cat 5.5 will on a 9800 pro. Remember to use Driver Cleaner to remove any driver files that get left over. You can get this from www.guru3d.com I believe it will remove the Audigy drivers too, but I'm not 100% sure. 1 last thing to check. See what the Dram timings are for your memory and adjust these in the BIOS to the correct settings. You should be able to obtain these from the web or even your mobo website. It may be an instibility in the settings etc running on the mobo. |
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Jun 23, 2005, 03:58 PM // 15:58
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Disillusioned Freak
Profession: W/Me
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More info. on the problem
Well I found out a few thing about that supposed "ding" in the backgorund. My computer is having problems reading a "memory location", and giving me a windows error I'm also using "FreeRam" program which gives me the exact address and details of the problem at hand. So I ran a memtest on my board. Here is the odd part, the memtest will pass normally but after the game crashes and I run the memtest it goes crazy! Like 100,000 errors and then the computer reboots, so I run windows again and after about a hour repeat the memtest with no problems. I know its strange but that is what is happening. It sounds like a power issue to the memory controller to me but I ran the PC with 2 different PS and it is occur with both (one 350W Antec and a 500W Antec) So bad coding? Who knows but when I run other programs/games and the error pops up in the background I won't notice it until I actually quit the game, it doesn't freeze the game up like Guild Wars does, My new memory is coming in from newegg on Friday so I'll keep you guys posted if it might have fixed the problem or not. I was also getting memory errors on my GC but that stopped when I installed the MB's AGP driver before the Nvidia driver (I didn't have the MB's AGP driver installed prior because their old driver was crashing my windows system). The best advice I can give people for troubleshooting for the BSOD is to copy down the memory location and look up the internet where that memory location is located, that is how I discovered I was not only having memory problems with my RAM but also with my GC so I get about 15 minutes of playtime now until the game hits that spot in RAM and crashes.
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Jun 23, 2005, 04:29 PM // 16:29
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: W/E
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My onboard audio is disabled in the bios. I would prefer to keep using the Audigy. My memory settings are set to the default, though I am considering trying to run with only one stick of memory. I will update after trying the Radeon driver change. |
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Jun 23, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Disillusioned Freak
Profession: W/Me
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*Solution*
Well I finally found a solution for my problem hope this help you guys.
Here are my specs Athlon 64 3000+ Nvidia 6600GT ASRock K8 Combo-Z MB 1GB Corsair DDR400 Audigy2 ZS 500W Antec PS Dual 17" LCD Screens WinXP SP1 Every option on my MB is enabled in the Bios and all options are set to auto *NOTE: No overclocking was done on the MB,GC,or mem* Well I had all the above issues before (resets,freezes,GW error,BSOD) So I tracked my BSOD and random reboots down to the memory (I use to have 512MB of Samsung) so I replaced the memory with the current 1GB, upgraded my bios. So that fixed my BSOD issue, as for the freezes and GW errors well, I still had those. To fix the freezes I use a program called Driver Cleaner Pro *Freeware* (search for it on google) To uninstalled All nvidia,3dFX,and ATI drivers (just in case something ATI come fixed in there awhile back because I use to have a ATI card) After that I reinstalled my MB's AGP driver,rebooted, and than installed the OLDER version of the Nvidia Forceware driver from www.guru3d.com (77.50 version),rebooted fired up guild wars and played for 2 hours until I got tired of playing. So to sum things up 1. The BSOD issue (unless it says nv***.dll along with it) is a memory issue so run your memtest bootdisk to check it out, Guild Wars is the only game that messed up on me because of a bad sector in the memory so even 1 bad sector can mess up the game) 2. The freezing issue and guild wars errors is a driver conflict issue, try wiping your old drivers with Driver Cleaner Pro and reinstalling first the motherboard's AGP driver, and than a older version of the Graphics Card driver. (77.50) Hope this helped you guys, Guild Wars is a great game once you getting running. 
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Jun 23, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Uk, England.
Profession: E/Mo
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If the problem is still there after you uninstall the drivers and remove the card, then just reinstall it again. This is problem determination and sometimes you have to do these things to find a solution. 
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Jun 24, 2005, 08:52 AM // 08:52
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sweden
Guild: Children of Sly
Profession: Mo/N
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Ok, this is my problem. I have a new graphics card and a new cpu-fan.
I have tried with 3 different cards. Got hte newest drivers, i have done all things *--> Crash <--* Assertion: P:\Code\Base\rtl/Array.h(559) App: Gw.exe ProgramId: 1 Build: 11087 When: 6/24/2005 10:48:20 Flags: 0 *--> System <--* Name: xxx IpAddr: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Processors: 1 [AuthenticAMD:6:8:1] OSVersion: 5.1 *--> Thread 0xfffffffe <--* eax=fffffffe ebx=006e44d8 ecx=006e44d8 edx=006e575c esi=006e575c edi=006e575c eip=00402071 esp=011efb38 ebp=011efb4c cs=200202 ss=001b ds=0023 es=0023 fs=0023 gs=003b efl=00000000 *--> Code <--* 00402051 e88a6f0b 0083c40c 5ec39090 90909055 ..o.....^......U 00402061 8bec83ec 0c56578b f28bf9e8 00000000 .....VW......... 00402071 8f45f454 8f45f855 8f45fc85 f68bd675 .E.T.E.U.E.....u 00402081 05ba9445 6e008b4d 088d45f4 50518bcf ...En..M..E.PQ.. 00402091 e80a0000 005f5e8b e55dc204 00909055 ....._^..].....U 004020A1 8bec81ec f0030000 53568d85 10fcffff ........SV...... *--> Trace <--* Pc:00402071 Fr:011efb4c Rt:00614b41 Arg:0000022f 07bbbc70 06477988 00000003 Pc:00614b41 Fr:011efb6c Rt:006149e7 Arg:00000007 00ffffff 07bbbc70 011efbc4 Pc:006149e7 Fr:011efb84 Rt:00615564 Arg:00000003 011efba0 fffffffa 07bbbd50 Pc:00615564 Fr:011efba8 Rt:006152ac Arg:00000003 011efbc4 0000005a 0000000f Pc:006152ac Fr:011efbf0 Rt:006157a8 Arg:00000003 fffffffa 00744f78 07bbbbd0 Pc:006157a8 Fr:011efc54 Rt:00612971 Arg:00744f78 00000003 00744f78 04c97ba0 Pc:00612971 Fr:011efc6c Rt:005b9c03 Arg:00744e98 0000000a 011efda0 00000039 Pc:005b9c03 Fr:011efcd0 Rt:00428089 Arg:3c877593 011efce8 011efd1c 011efda0 Pc:00428089 Fr:011efcf8 Rt:004230e3 Arg:0bd3d4e8 06c0bff0 0051964d 00000000 Pc:004230e3 Fr:011efd34 Rt:005188c4 Arg:00000039 011efda0 00000000 dcf33a83 Pc:005188c4 Fr:011efd64 Rt:0051a01b Arg:011efda0 00000000 011efddc 00eade18 Pc:0051a01b Fr:011efd88 Rt:0050d25c Arg:00000000 00eefc8c 0000000c 3c877593 Pc:0050d25c Fr:011efda8 Rt:0050c3b4 Arg:00000002 00eadc50 011efe74 00000000 Pc:0050c3b4 Fr:011efde8 Rt:00506bde Arg:00eadc74 00eefc80 00000004 011efe74 Pc:00506bde Fr:011efe54 Rt:0050690c Arg:00000004 00eade18 00000000 80028e27 Pc:0050690c Fr:011efe78 Rt:0050651e Arg:011eff20 011eff1c ffffffff 00000002 Pc:0050651e Fr:011eff14 Rt:004d0122 Arg:005063a0 00000001 00000002 ffffffff Pc:004d0122 Fr:011eff34 Rt:004d3dcb Arg:0014c008 003ea480 003ef780 00369e99 Pc:004d3dcb Fr:011eff68 Rt:004cdd46 Arg:00000002 7c913d00 003ef780 003ef780 Pc:004cdd46 Fr:011eff80 Rt:006bfd6e Arg:003ea480 7c913d00 ffffffff 003ef780 Pc:006bfd6e Fr:011effb4 Rt:7c80b50b Arg:003ef780 7c913d00 ffffffff 003ef780 Pc:7c80b50b Fr:011effec Rt:00000000 Arg:006bfd0f 003ef780 00000000 012d0000 *--> Stack <--* 011EFB38 07bbbe60 00ffffff 00402071 011efb38 `.......q @.8... 011EFB48 011efb4c 011efb6c 00614b41 0000022f L...l...AKa./... 011EFB58 07bbbc70 06477988 00000003 07bbbe60 p....yG.....`... 011EFB68 07bbbc70 011efb84 006149e7 00000007 p........Ia..... 011EFB78 00ffffff 07bbbc70 011efbc4 011efba8 ....p........... 011EFB88 00615564 00000003 011efba0 fffffffa dUa............. 011EFB98 07bbbd50 fffffff1 00000016 fffffffd P............... 011EFBA8 011efbf0 006152ac 00000003 011efbc4 .....Ra......... 011EFBB8 0000005a 0000000f 07bbbc70 00000012 Z.......p....... 011EFBC8 fffffffa 00000017 00000018 fffffff0 ................ 011EFBD8 fffffffa 00000012 00000018 00000012 ................ 011EFBE8 07bbbc70 00000018 011efc54 006157a8 p.......T....Wa. 011EFBF8 00000003 fffffffa 00744f78 07bbbbd0 ........xOt..... 011EFC08 00744e98 037ccb84 00000001 00000040 .Nt...|.....@... 011EFC18 00000000 00000000 00000001 037ccb84 ..............|. 011EFC28 00000002 0000000b 00000001 0000000b ................ 011EFC38 00000010 00000008 00000001 0000000b ................ 011EFC48 00000002 0000000b 0000005a 011efc6c ........Z...l... 011EFC58 00612971 00744f78 00000003 00744f78 q)a.xOt.....xOt. 011EFC68 04c97ba0 011efcd0 005b9c03 00744e98 .{........[..Nt. 011EFC78 0000000a 011efda0 00000039 004a5797 ........9....WJ. 011EFC88 3f640000 00ffaf5a 3f5d0000 3efb53d2 ..d?Z.....]?.S.> 011EFC98 3f61c597 00000000 3ef15aea bf6898b3 ..a?.....Z.>..h. 011EFCA8 be4c83e5 3ebb6007 c3b2a318 c29d1200 ..L..`.>........ 011EFCB8 430fe810 00744e98 00000001 00000001 ...C.Nt......... 011EFCC8 00744f78 3b26a9f4 011efcf8 00428089 xOt...&;......B. 011EFCD8 3c877593 011efce8 011efd1c 011efda0 .u.<............ 011EFCE8 bf6898b3 be4c83e5 3ebb6007 00422fce ..h...L..`.>./B. 011EFCF8 011efd34 004230e3 0bd3d4e8 06c0bff0 4....0B......... 011EFD08 0051964d 00000000 06199710 06199718 M.Q............. 011EFD18 024032b0 0000000a 00000039 06c0bff4 [email protected]....... 011EFD28 00000180 80000000 00000000 011efd64 ............d... 011EFD38 005188c4 00000039 011efda0 00000000 ..Q.9........... 011EFD48 dcf33a83 00000004 00000039 00000008 .:......9....... 011EFD58 011efd58 011efd51 02403298 011efd88 X...Q....2@..... 011EFD68 0051a01b 011efda0 00000000 011efddc ..Q............. 011EFD78 00eade18 00000000 011efda0 00000039 ............9... 011EFD88 011efda8 0050d25c 00000000 00eefc8c ....\.P......... 011EFD98 0000000c 3c877593 3c877593 3c877593 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h.....X......... 011EFEA8 e12bb660 e2fccf08 00eade04 00000014 `.+............. 011EFEB8 00000001 00000000 00000000 00000010 ................ 011EFEC8 00000000 00000000 0000038c 7ffdb000 ................ 011EFED8 7ffdc000 c0504ec4 011efec8 011efe94 .....NP......... 011EFEE8 00eadc50 00000001 00000000 00002405 P............$.. 011EFEF8 7c80a42b 011efe80 00369e99 011effa4 +..|......6..... 011EFF08 004b1dbc 006f3e08 00000000 011eff34 ..K..>o.....4... 011EFF18 004d0122 005063a0 00000001 00000002 ".M..cP......... 011EFF28 ffffffff 80028e27 00000002 011eff68 ....'.......h... *--> LogQueue <--* *--> DirectX Device Info <--* VendorId = 0x10de DeviceId = 0x0042 Version = 6.14.0010.7650 Description = NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE Compat = 0x00800000 VidMem = 128 MB |
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Jun 24, 2005, 09:05 AM // 09:05
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Festung Breslau
Guild: NLMM
Profession: W/N
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OK after whole day of "-no sound" and no BSOD(!), I gave a try to 'with sound' playing yesterday. Guess what happened - yes, BSOD ingame. I d/l latest audigy 2 driver update provided in this post http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=400 BSOD ingame I run Driver Cleaner to eliminate last remanants of nVidia AC97 sound and BSOD ingame I changed TRas setting to 11 from (7) and it went even better - bios replied with bootblock cheksum error "kiss my as I'aint gonna even turn on" I almost got my pants wet but cleared CMOS and the chunk came back to life. Anyway I turned "-nosound" again. Of course: NO BSOD In a weekend I'll remove audigy and try to play on ac97 sound. Im really interested if it is going to work properly. Cheers |
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Jun 24, 2005, 09:09 AM // 09:09
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Festung Breslau
Guild: NLMM
Profession: W/N
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Btw 17th page already -_-;;
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Jun 24, 2005, 09:47 AM // 09:47
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Uk, England.
Profession: E/Mo
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This should be interesting to see what happens. I only run my machine using the onboard NForce 2 Sound Chip. To be honest, I think it's a damn good sound chip and does what it's supposed too. The only thing I would like is Optical Digital so I can hook it up to my Cinema Setup, but I can't. My PC only has Co-Ax Sound and Not Fibre optics, and my surround sound only has Fibre. Oh well, I could install my old Platinum Live but that could screw up my gaming. I decided to stop using Creative Soundblasters as I was forever hitting problems with them, as I never thought there drivers were the best they could be. I could be wrong and lots of people will say they never had a problem, but most of the problems I hit with my PC was Soundblaster related. There is another guy here who I have also advised to remove his Audigy 1, so will be interesting to see if he decides to actually do that, or leave it in as he likes using it. 
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Jun 24, 2005, 10:29 AM // 10:29
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: W/E
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Ok, I switched my Radeon drivers from 5.5 to 4.11, and I haven't crashed in the last 4 hours (2 yesterday and 2 today).
I kept everything else the same. Maybe that is the simple solution. If anything changes, I will post it here. I am just happy it is working.
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Jun 24, 2005, 12:49 PM // 12:49
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: May 2005
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i guess every1's problem is a bit different, but similar consequences, if u are having major restart problems, BSOD, gw errors, 1st off, to see if it is a heating issue, play the game, and wen sumthing happens, jus start up the game again and see if this time the game stuffs up more quicker and quicker, till u jus have major restart problems, if this is ur case, heating is ur problem, this doesnt have 2 happen only wif ur vid card, but mainly ur cpu (i personally am running my x800pro @ XT speeds and no problems even after 24 hours of gameplay). Other cases are driver problems, and sum simply arent feeding enuff power into GW (since it takes more power then most other games u've played), for now, my problem was the heating, so i can only help wif that issue sorry, GL for fixing this problem, and im sure this problem will ethier stay the same or start 2 decrease
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Jun 24, 2005, 02:08 PM // 14:08
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Ocean of Memories
Profession: R/E
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*sigh* A little confused...
Another PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGE_AREA error.... *sigh*
Well all i have to say is a friend of mine has the exact same parts as i do in my computer, except for one additional RAM stick and a new HD. Im not sure how to set my RAM timings ( still very n00bish ) so i decided to try every other solution i knew how. My friend who has the exact same parts runs Guild Wars fine so i suspected it was something to do with my RAM or HD. So as my first approach i attempted to take out my excess RAM stick, and try running guild wars on just a 512. This didnt help at all, so as my next attempt i tried a Defragmentation, and then soon after a Disk check on my hard drive. Before i did this my G/W would randomly crash when i warped to another town or place. Now what i just did fixed my problem untill about 6 hours of gameplay i recieved the error once again but not on my way to warp somewhere, just out in the open. This draws me to one of two conclusions; that i may have a recurring problem with my hard drive, or the disk check was only a minor setback for the errors with my RAM. I am not sure how to set RAM timings but once i figure out how to, thats my next step in attempting to fix this mess. Hope this could help someone out. = \ Last edited by Dull Shot; Jun 24, 2005 at 02:14 PM // 14:14.. |
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Jun 24, 2005, 02:29 PM // 14:29
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Uk, England.
Profession: E/Mo
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Have you tried a complete uninstall of Guild Wars and then reinstall it? Just make sure, that the parition you are installing on has been defragged first, as the GW game file is one very large file and keeps growing as the updates occur. If you have a split partition with the GW file located all over the place, this could cause you to have errors appear. I know you have tried Defrag already, but try it before you reinstall Guild Wars and see what happens.
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Jun 24, 2005, 05:51 PM // 17:51
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Disillusioned Freak
Profession: W/Me
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Damn,almost had it
Well after I reported to you guys I had it working yesterday,
I starting playing this morning and had freeze ups and BSOD, So I tested my *NEW* memory I got in yesterday, now I know it isn't bad but I got the same thing 100000s of errors in memtest and than a reboot. So onto a new motherboard I guess, what do you guys thing a bad memory controller on the MB? I don't know what else could cause it. Well hopefully that will fix my problem and I can start playing again.
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Jun 24, 2005, 05:52 PM // 17:52
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jun 2005
Profession: Mo/E
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*UPDATE*
The Techies at NCSoft told me to install VIA chipset drivers. So I installed them, restarted my computer, then attempted to play Guild Wars. I noticed a 10 - 15 FPS boost, then after 15 minutes of play, I got the BSOD. So I'm still in connection with NCSoft Techies. I'll let you guys know of any updates. And if I do get my game fixed, I'm not going to leave cause alot of you guys have problems and I wanna help out. |
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Jun 24, 2005, 05:53 PM // 17:53
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Uk, England.
Profession: E/Mo
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Addition - Also, I know it's a pain, but try and remove all the unnecessary hardware and drivers from your machine before trying again, such as your Audigy. Then rerun the memory test. I know you are getting errors, but nothing is totally true and you may well have a hardware conflict that isn't necessarily related to your memory but could be causing it to fall over. Without going back through the whole thread, have you made sure your Ram Timings in the Bios are correct? Last edited by Dirkiess; Jun 24, 2005 at 05:58 PM // 17:58.. Reason: Addition |
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Jun 25, 2005, 05:30 AM // 05:30
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Ocean of Memories
Profession: R/E
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Jun 25, 2005, 05:40 AM // 05:40
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Ocean of Memories
Profession: R/E
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*sigh*
Once again, the problem persists. I did uninstall completely, defragment, then reinstall, but i still recieved these problems. Im convinced its something with the RAM or HD... hmm...
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Jun 25, 2005, 04:05 PM // 16:05
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: Disillusioned Freak
Profession: W/Me
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I had everything set to "auto" setting in the bios and everything else set to default when I ran the different test, I ran a older version of memtest from a bootdisk, the microsoft mem. test off a bootdisk from their website and a the windows version of memtest 3.2 (The one with the update for the Athlon 64 chips) and all three test failed with the thousands of errors. The timing for my memory states 1.5 but my MB only gives me the option of 1T or 2T so I just set that to auto. The mem test will run for awhile before it errors though so that might be why I'm only getting a BSOD in game and not anywhere else since I don't use any other programs that fill the memory up to that spot. The odd part is when the game crashes without the BSOD (the usual AreaNet error screen) and I look at the details I'm getting that memory address c000050 and I'm pretty sure thats just a graphics card driver issue but that only happens once in a blue moon so I'm more worried about getting the game to work so I can at least finish 1 mission. |
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