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Old Apr 18, 2008, 01:48 AM // 01:48   #41
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Looks like we're going with Voodoo.
Who knows
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:57 AM // 03:57   #42
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VoodooPCs make me wet.

I use to own an ENVY (laptop) that was made by them, they not only use select components, but they know how to assemble it correctly so the machine doesn't fall apart after dropping it a few dozen times.

A lot of people prefer computer companies because they assemble the parts in a very neat fashion, they use the exact amount of wires, and their ribbons and cables seem to be only to the length required.

Voodoo is no exception. You pay extra for their worksmanship, but the quality shows, and when I say this, I mean you may not be getting the fastest product, but rest assured you're getting quality.

And nothing beats quality.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13   #43
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although if you want quality and performance nothing beats falcon northwest if money is no issue you cannot go wrong with these guys, they are the best have been the best and will prob. always be the best, but be prepared to invest as they are the most most expensive but for the right reasons.

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Old Apr 18, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #44
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my HP computer i bought 2 years ago gave me: a mobo with 1PCIe X 16 slot.
a pentium 4 with 3.0 GHz, a 6200LE graphic card, 1GB memory, a case wich is so small that 1/4th of the mobo was hiden behind the HDD bays, wich made it hard to install extra memory/replace PSU and a 250GB HDD.
also, the case has a horible airflow thanks to a single fan on the back -.-

before that comp i had a crap computer as well dunno what brand, but after this i decided to make my own.

altho HP does use a relax backup system to reinstall drivers/windows.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16   #45
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just go to the big components trader, buy the best ones u can afford [check compatibility first] , and assemble urself

thats what many people do,

if now, just go buy alienware, or if u cant afford, a hp
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 06:59 PM // 18:59   #46
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my HP computer i bought 2 years ago gave me: a mobo with 1PCIe X 16 slot.
a pentium 4 with 3.0 GHz, a 6200LE graphic card, 1GB memory, a case wich is so small that 1/4th of the mobo was hiden behind the HDD bays, wich made it hard to install extra memory/replace PSU and a 250GB HDD.
also, the case has a horible airflow thanks to a single fan on the back -.-

before that comp i had a crap computer as well dunno what brand, but after this i decided to make my own.

altho HP does use a relax backup system to reinstall drivers/windows.
My HP came with the pentium d 805, that's the entry level dual core, and I believe the first one for sale. It also came with a 7300le and 1 gb of ram. Because of the stupid wires, it is very hard to reach the motherboard, and I have the same situation because of the hdd that you mentioned. That "relax backup system" is pure fail. Instead of giving you the drivers of the mobo and graph card and a windows install cd, they give you the stupid partition which resets it to factory defaults. In other words, I get a trial version of norton internet security 2006, sonic dvd burner, windows media player 9 or 10, can't remember, internet explorer 6, the list goes on and on. In other words, you get all kinds of crapware, and uninstalling them means half an hour into your format you're already messing up the registry (or am I just talking crazy now?). HP's customer service is horibble too. After being on the phone for half an hour thinking what the hell they're doing with the money instead of hiring maybe 5 more people at the helpdesk, I get some idiot who says that he's going to put me through to a colleague of his, because I called the wrong department. Hp is horibble, please, don't buy one.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55   #47
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well, all the stupid software is stupid, but i did get rid of some virus's thanks to the formating system, you can also recover your pc to a earlier state, like if you exidently download a virus, you just go back to how your computer was yesterday.

never called in with the customer service, but my experience with customer services is that they are always crap.

called in on MSI customers service, cause of a common problem with the 9600GT(reboting/black screen). that idiot blamed my mobo for not supporting pcie 2.0 while later on the internet i read you just need to underclock the shader a little bit.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23   #48
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well, all the stupid software is stupid, but i did get rid of some virus's thanks to the formating system, you can also recover your pc to a earlier state, like if you exidently download a virus, you just go back to how your computer was yesterday.

never called in with the customer service, but my experience with customer services is that they are always crap.

called in on MSI customers service, cause of a common problem with the 9600GT(reboting/black screen). that idiot blamed my mobo for not supporting pcie 2.0 while later on the internet i read you just need to underclock the shader a little bit.
If you have to underclock the shader, or it wont work, it doesn't officially support it.
The recovery function you're talking about is windows' own recovery system. HP's program only restores to factory settings.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 08:50 PM // 20:50   #49
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I wouldn't recommend HP, as the four that were purchased by various family members of mine ALL had to be taken back to get something replaced within the first month of ownership. The one I purchased had not one, but two failed hard drives, and faulty restore disks that had to be recalled and replaced by HP. All told, I went about 1 month without a working computer in the two months after buying it. Customer service with HP was certainly polite, but they were very hard to understand (english a second language for dell support?) and did not understand that I was well already aware of the 'typical fixes' had already tried them and that they were not working. But take that for a grain of salt, as I hear that their Laptops are rock solid.

I have never had a problem (beyond bloatware) on a Gateway. My parents love their dell, but I'm still reserved about how aggressively they try to minimize expenses.
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #50
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I'm not even gonna start with all the misguided and straight up wrong things said in this thread already. please IGNORE anyone telling you to buy your comp from ibuypower or any mainstream computer manufacturer (ie. sony, hp/compaq, gateway, dell) with these machines you get a locked box of non upgradeable parts and super low quality motherboards.

my suggestion, from looking at their machines firsthand, is to buy a velocity micro pc. They have good build quality and excellent part configurations.

if you are feeling adveturous shoot me a pm with your budget and ill configure you with a newegg cart of excellent parts to build a machine with.
iBuypower and Cyberpower are boutique companies. They essentially build systems for people who know what they want, but are not comfortable doing it themselves, and who want an all inclusive warranty. Don't say for the OP to ignore them or people who recommend them. Many people I know have an iBuyPower or CyberPower PC, and they are well put together, quality machines without bloatware installed on them.

Velocity Micro is overpriced bullshit. As is Alienware.

VooDoo and FalconNorthwest are elitist brands, known for exceptional craftsmanship and artistic talent. Their cases are beautifully crafted, and you will pay out the ass for it.

Velocity Micro sold their souls to Satan a few years back (aka best buy)
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Old Apr 18, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #51
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Velocity Micro sold their souls to Satan a few years back (aka worst buy)
lemme fix that for you
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Old Apr 19, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20   #52
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Buying from CyberpowerPC and Ibuypower is a gamble.
You can get a terribly crafted computer or a really nice one.

Reliable and aren't overpriced.
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Old Apr 19, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54   #53
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Just remember, don't concern yourself with what you read here. Every company gets complaints, that is the way of business. It's how the company deals with the complaints that you need to concern yourself with.

XPS range for example. Solid as a rock. Have dedicated support if something does go wrong. Same goes for Alienware and Voodoo.

I've heard bad thing about CyberpowerPC also, but as it is with the interent people only ever post the negative reports. I'm certain Cyberpower has far more happy customers then unhappy ones. Those that are unhappy tend to shout more then those that are not.

A little bit of research never hurts.
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Old Apr 19, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11   #54
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Just remember, don't concern yourself with what you read here. Every company gets complaints, that is the way of business. It's how the company deals with the complaints that you need to concern yourself with.

XPS range for example. Solid as a rock. Have dedicated support if something does go wrong. Same goes for Alienware and Voodoo.

I've heard bad thing about CyberpowerPC also, but as it is with the interent people only ever post the negative reports. I'm certain Cyberpower has far more happy customers then unhappy ones. Those that are unhappy tend to shout more then those that are not.

A little bit of research never hurts.
Also, you spelled internet wrong.
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