Curse

Brianna · May 07, 2008, 06:04 PM // 18:04

I don't know how to obtain warranty as I don't have the receipt or packaging anymore.

I guess I'll run a Memtest on it later to see whats exactly up with it.

Aratak The Blind · May 07, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36

Don't know for Kingston but Corsairs didn't ask for any receipt or proof of purchase. I think they ask if I bought them from an authorize reseller but that is it. Can't loose anything be emailing them.

Always register and keep the proof of purchase. Takes 5 min saves dollars.

Brianna · May 07, 2008, 06:46 PM // 18:46

Yeah, well I did that with every other part, I just didn't think about saving the RAM packaging and all the good stuff, and registering it etc.

I'll most likely end up just going to buy new RAM because it's cheap, and I don't want to wait for them to send the RAM to me, I kind of need it asap.

Admael · May 07, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Try putting in both sticks and running them at +2.1v.

Brianna · May 08, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Hmm.. I go into Advanced Chipset Setup in the BIOS and I get two things: Dram Frequency, and Dram Timing.

On the Dram frequency when I say ''Manual'' or ''Limit'' instead of ''Auto'' then it gives me the option to adjust it, it starts at 200mhz.

Then for Dram timing I hit manual, and all I get is the CAS Latency (CL) option, and I can set it to 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0.

Then for the Frequency/Voltage Control menu in the BIOS I get 5 options:

*Auto Detect DIMM/PCI Clk <Enabled>

*CPU/LDT Spread Spectrum <0.50% H. Kiss Down>

*PCI-E Spread Spectrum <Linear Down>

*SATA Spread Spectrum <Linear Down>

*iGPU Spread Spectrum <3.00% Triangular Center>

So I'm not seeing anything to fully adjust timings and voltages for the RAM, and Ironically after reading more about my RAM I found out that this is infact the RAM that boots at 5-5-5-15 and 1.8 volts, and you are supposed to change it to 4-4-4-12 @ 2.0 volts for optimal performance, so I'm hoping I can do that.

Also I put the other assumed dead stick into vice versa DIMM slots and it still isn't detected, so I think it is shot for good anyways.

If I can't change the RAM settings then I am just going to buy a pair of ram that is loaded at optimal settings automatically.

EDIT: And in the PC Health Status menu I get this:

*Smart Fan Function <Press Enter>

*Shutdown Temperature <Disabled> (I know the dangers, etc)

*Warning Temperature <Disabled>

*CPU Core : 1.392V

*VDIMM : 1.872V

And more unnecessary things:

*CPU Fan Speed 2700RPM

*CPU Tcontrol : 42C/107F

*System Temperature 42C/107F

So I'm assuming the VDIMM is my RAM voltage, but It's grayed out and I can't change it.

The Way Out · May 08, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

Hmm.. I go into Advanced Chipset Setup in the BIOS and I get two things: Dram Frequency, and Dram Timing.

On the Dram frequency when I say ''Manual'' or ''Limit'' instead of ''Auto'' then it gives me the option to adjust it, it starts at 200mhz.

Then for Dram timing I hit manual, and all I get is the CAS Latency (CL) option, and I can set it to 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0.

Then for the Frequency/Voltage Control menu in the BIOS I get 5 options:

*Auto Detect DIMM/PCI Clk <Enabled>

*CPU/LDT Spread Spectrum <o.50% H. Kiss Down>

*PCI-E Spread Spectrum <Linear Down>

*SATA Spread Spectrum <Linear Down>

*iGPU Spread Spectrum <3.00% Triangular Center>

So I'm not seeing anything to fully adjust timings and voltages for the RAM, and Ironically after reading more about my RAM I found out that this is infact the RAM that boots at 5-5-5-15 and 1.8 volts, and you are supposed to change it to 4-4-4-12 @ 2.0 volts for optimal performance, so I'm hoping I can do that.

Also I put the other assumed dead stick into vice versa DIMM slots and it still isn't detected, so I think it is shot for good anyways.

If I can't change the RAM settings then I am just going to buy a pair of ram that is loaded at optimal settings automatically.

Hey Brianna,
I rarely log onto the forum anymore, however, I wanted to caution you that your memory stick that is dead is most likely still under warranty. Before you go and purchase memory, understand that most companies will replace your memory for you (many companies actually have limited lifetime warranties on their memory).

Hope that helps!!!

Brianna · May 09, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146673

Thoughts? Tomorrow is the big day, have to pick a winner! Lol.

Admael · May 09, 2008, 07:18 AM // 07:18

I've never bought RAM that I haven't needed to adjust the voltage for. If you're only reading 1.8v, then thats the "Auto" value for your mobo (same as mine).

Components may "seem" stable, and I say components because this applies not only for RAM, but that's only because you haven't pushed them to the limit. You will have to find the option to manually increase the voltage (it's *should* be in a section of it's own where all the voltages are controlled, so if you know where your cpu voltage (vcore) option is.

Those mushkin look pretty nice. I'll brief you incase you decide that's not what you what:
What you're looking at is mid-end gaming RAM. Comes in blue heatspreaders.
mushkin makes several types of RAM, they're distinquished by the color of their heatspreaders. Low end: no heatspreaders/green, Mid-end: blue, High-end: black, Overclockers: red, servers: white/silver

Brianna · May 09, 2008, 08:01 AM // 08:01

So in other words, this is high end: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146726 Hence the price. Oh wait, that is 4GB, no wonder why it's double the price, either way - I catch your drift.

Well, I'm looking to only pay around 50$ range-ish. The Kingston Hyper-X ''Gaming Ram'' had Blue heat-spreaders, and since I liked how it worked, I think it would be in my interest to buy something of the same league.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146677 Here's some of their advertised ''High Performance'' but it's 1066.

Admael · May 09, 2008, 08:32 AM // 08:32

No no, the color heatspreaders only apply to mushkin!

And the "High Performance" 1066 is also the one I'm using. They run fine 4-4-3-10 @ 6400. But that price is a bit too steep to pay for 6400 RAM (to be honest, those ARE 6400, but they're "factory overclocked" to run at 1066).

Go with the XMS from Corsair or the Hyper-X for Kingston. The XP2 (black version) of the 2x1GB 6400 from mushkin has been discontinued from Newegg.

Brianna · May 09, 2008, 08:36 AM // 08:36

Oh I didn't read that detail,that's what I get for being up at 1:00 am.

Alright, I was thinking the Corsair or Hyper-X again, probably corsair this time, then I'll send in my Kingston (Or try) and get it replaced, so I have backup RAM.

Can never have too much backup, this is why. I'm stuck with 1 gig of ram doing virtually nothing on my computer now.

Admael · May 09, 2008, 09:32 AM // 09:32

I might as well throw these in the mix before judgment day tomorrow

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145165

3-4-3-9 @ 800 Mhz (effective) how can you lose?
I know it might be a bit out of your price range, but with the mail in rebate, those DIMMs are a steal.

Brianna · May 10, 2008, 03:17 AM // 03:17

Well, until Sunday I have some standard sticks of Crucial X2 1gb in, to tide me over.

Then I'll have my Corsair XMS, the one's I linked above.

These RAM sticks suck, they don't have Heat Spreaders, but at least they are fast and pumped the power back into my computer for a couple of days.

Hmm, come to think of it, this Crucial RAM is actually faster than my Kingston was (but only because the Kingston's timings.) At any rate, it's really nice, helps vista load all the menus and pictures and such much faster than before, it's just a shame it lacks the heat spreaders, else I'd have used these for good.

Quaker · May 10, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

So what do I do? I'm hoping that one of my DIMM's isn't dead.. then I'd really be in big trouble, I'd need a new motherboard.. *sigh*, I'm not fond of mem-test or if it will even work, if you recommend it then I'd need directions to set it up.

You say you have 2 DIMMS. It sounds as if one may be dead. Simply take the DIMMS out and install them alone, one at a time (in the same slot).

If one DIMM works and the other doesn't, then the one that doesn't work is obviously bad (duh).

If neither of them work, or both of them work, then it's possible that you have a bad DIMM slot. Try the other DIMM slot(s) to see which are good and which are bad.

If you find that one DIMM is bad, that's not too bad, you can just buy a new one. If you find that one (or more) slot is bad, that could be a problem, but it depends upon how many DIMM slots you have and how they are configured.

Let us know how many slots there are and how many are bad. But basically, if your mobo has 3 slots and 1 is bad, just use the other 2. If it has 4 slots (which means the may run in dual-channel mode) and you have 1 bad one, switch both DIMMS to the other slots. If you only have one good DIMM slot, buy one stick of RAM twice the size of the ones you have now, or a new motherboard.

Brianna · May 10, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

I mentioned before that I found the culprit, it was a bad stick of RAM.

Thankfully the slot's are just fine, heh.

EDIT: I got the corsair 6400 XMS 2GB and it works nice, I'm back in business.