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Brianna · May 13, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19

So I noticed on Vista that the Guild Wars priority is set to ''Normal'' but on windows XP it has always been set to ''Low'' for me, why is this?

I kind of ask because I am trying to find ways to take the stress off of my video card, It's overheating kind of badly.

I used RivaTuner to bump the fan speeds up to 80%, and that drops it a few C, and that helps none the less. But when I have Guild Wars up, the temperature of my card shoots up to 70C (Was 80C before, think it hit 85 last night which caused my computer to lock) and while it is Minimized it gets all the way down to 56C, and the card's exhaust is cold to the touch by then.

This is all very weird, because usually having it up or down would only variate temperatures of 2C difference or so, I think something is up with my video card.

I have an 8800GTS 320mb from EVGA, by the way. Had it a few months and it just recently started getting this hot.

sthpaw · May 13, 2008, 03:07 AM // 03:07

8800gts 320 or 640mb are known to go 80C+ and are designed for those temps but im not too sure about it being locked up,
i have owned a 8800gts 320mb and have overclocked it to 640mhz core and it was doing about 87C when stressed and didnt have any problems
i hope this helps

These cards apparently have a max temp of around 130 degrees (don't quote me on that!)

Check out:

www.nvnews.net/vbulletin...read.php?t=91534
www.silentpcreview.com/f...db528ce7c1b5a94e
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=23988

my2cent · May 13, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

probly one of ur program was set to lock the computer when its >80c

Aera · May 13, 2008, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

So I noticed on Vista that the Guild Wars priority is set to ''Normal'' but on windows XP it has always been set to ''Low'' for me, why is this?

I kind of ask because I am trying to find ways to take the stress off of my video card, It's overheating kind of badly.

I used RivaTuner to bump the fan speeds up to 80%, and that drops it a few C, and that helps none the less. But when I have Guild Wars up, the temperature of my card shoots up to 70C (Was 80C before, think it hit 85 last night which caused my computer to lock) and while it is Minimized it gets all the way down to 56C, and the card's exhaust is cold to the touch by then.

This is all very weird, because usually having it up or down would only variate temperatures of 2C difference or so, I think something is up with my video card.

I have an 8800GTS 320mb from EVGA, by the way. Had it a few months and it just recently started getting this hot.

Installed any new fans lately? Too much fans can create crappy airflow and cause vacuum, and that defies the point of fans and temperatures can jump up like 10-15 degrees.

If you did, remove the last fan.

If you didn't, well, 70C isn't harmful.

Brianna · May 13, 2008, 06:03 AM // 06:03

I haven't installed any new fans, no.

The fans I have in here currently are one 120mm intake fan, one 120mm exhaust fan, and one 80mm exhaust on the top of the case, that is it, and I've made sure many times that they are blowing in the correct directions.

So does anyone know if setting the Priority to ''Low'' will take any stress off of my system? Will it hinder performance of the game? Is it safe to do it?

Cause I was figuring if XP has it at ''Low'' then Vista should be fine with that too, since on XP it doesn't have any performance problems that way. Of course it is pre-set to that so I'd imagine so, but alas the OS's are different so they may have different reasons for why it's like that.

Just to add, yes I have no dust, I clean my vents and air filters every couple of days, and maybe weekly take care of dust inside.

Admael · May 13, 2008, 06:15 AM // 06:15

When I had fans on my GPU, I used Rivatuner's fanprofile to 100% when temps are 70< and 60% when they're <70.

Putting priority to low will take stress off the system yes, making those resources available for other application use.

Brianna · May 13, 2008, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Well, I didn't use profiles. I just used the direct control to set the fan speed to 80%, then hit apply, lol.

Alright, well maybe I'll try to set Guild Wars to ''Low'' later and see how that works out.

Just some notes, usually the card was just fine with 60% fan level (and was at 70C, which was always fine cause I know this card can take that heat) but It's getting way too hot, but the summer is coming around too so I can imagine something such as this would most likely happen, but I didn't think it would jump 10-15C in only a few days, it's just nuts.

manitoba1073 · May 13, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50

it wont hurt you at all setting it to a lower priority. But if your that worried about the heat in the summer you can always take the side of the case off for more airflow.

Blackhearted · May 13, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

So I noticed on Vista that the Guild Wars priority is set to ''Normal'' but on windows XP it has always been set to ''Low'' for me, why is this?

The reason why you see gw as reporting itself as "low" priority is because when it is out of focus, such as when you're looking at the task manager, gw usually sets itself to low priority. Put gw in a window and scoot the task manager beside it, then put gw back into focus. It'll go back up to "normal". It doesn't really have anything to do with os version.

Brianna · May 13, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhearted

The reason why you see gw as reporting itself as "low" priority is because when it is out of focus, such as when you're looking at the task manager, gw usually sets itself to low priority. Put gw in a window and scoot the task manager beside it, then put gw back into focus. It'll go back up to "normal". It doesn't really have anything to do with os version.

Hmm well I guess that about clears it up, he was right, that is what it does.

Hmm..

cebalrai · May 13, 2008, 11:39 AM // 11:39

My old 6800GS used to run as hot as 78C without any locking up. When I first got it though, it ran at 68C and gave me room to overclock. As it aged I had to stop the OCing... I probably could have taken it apart and given it a good cleaning.

That's really weird that your card would suddenly run hot. Maybe a really stubborn dust bunny got sucked in there and isn't in a position to be blown out?

Dark Kal · May 13, 2008, 12:47 PM // 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

So does anyone know if setting the Priority to ''Low'' will take any stress off of my system? Will it hinder performance of the game? Is it safe to do it?

That's not how Priority works. Priority tells your CPU and RAM which programs it should process first. Highest priority means your CPU will try to process that program commands first and that program will have the first access to your RAM, lowest means last. Generally Priority doesn't matter since your system should have enough resources to run all your programs. It's perfectly save to change Priority for any program but most likely it will have little to non noticeable effect.

Your GPU is uneffected by Priority settings, your GPU has to process whatever you see on your screen.

zamial · May 13, 2008, 03:44 PM // 15:44

Is it possible to get your system specs, with voltages, and any over clocking? This was killing my system until I updated the system Bios. I am using a 780i board.

Lord Sojar · May 14, 2008, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by manitoba1073

But if your that worried about the heat in the summer you can always take the side of the case off for more airflow.

So... yeh.... that is terrible advice. Please refrain from EVER doing this. If you currently do this, stop it. PCs are built so that airflow is maximized with the side panel on. It creates a tunnel for which intake and outtake fans to have maximized effects. Removing the side panel completely destroys this intake/outtake pressure system, and can severely damage components because of stagnant hot air build up occurring.

Brianna · May 14, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by zamial

Is it possible to get your system specs, with voltages, and any over clocking? This was killing my system until I updated the system Bios. I am using a 780i board.

Nah I'm not overclocking, never have and don't plan to any time soon, seen as though with every freaking computer that I've had overheats (Thanks to living in Hell on earth) so screw it with that.

Voltages..

Well, HW monitor likes to bug up a lot, but I'll give it a shot, no guarantee that any of these voltages are accurate.

CPU VCORE: 1.39V

* VIN1: 2.50V

* +3.3V: 1.87 V

* +5V: 5.46 V

* +12V: 4.86 V

* -12V: -4.67 V

* -5V: -11.46 V

* +5VCCH: 4.81 V

* VBAT: 3.12 V

Oh well, no idea what any of that means, but that's HardwareMonitor's Voltage table. Don't know of any other way to check it. I have an AMD Athlon 64 6000+, 2GB of Corsair PC6400XMS, and the Video Card I mentioned above.

Snograt · May 14, 2008, 05:21 AM // 05:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

So... yeh.... that is terrible advice. Please refrain from EVER doing this. If you currently do this, stop it. PCs are built so that airflow is maximized with the side panel on. It creates a tunnel for which intake and outtake fans to have maximized effects. Removing the side panel completely destroys this intake/outtake pressure system, and can severely damage components because of stagnant hot air build up occurring.

An analogy (I'm fond of those) - it's like running the air conditioning in your car, then opening a window.

[edit] er, is it just me, or are Brianna's voltages somewhat ...off?

Brianna · May 14, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27

Straight from the CPU-Z ''Registers Dump.txt'' file:

ITE IT87 hardware monitor

Voltage sensor 0 1.39 Volts [0x57] (CPU VCORE)
Voltage sensor 1 2.48 Volts [0x9B] (VIN1)
Voltage sensor 2 1.87 Volts [0x75] (+3.3V)
Voltage sensor 3 5.48 Volts [0xCC] (+5V)
Voltage sensor 4 4.86 Volts [0x4C] (+12V)
Voltage sensor 5 -4.67 Volts [0x49] (-12V)
Voltage sensor 6 -11.52 Volts [0xB4] (-5V)
Voltage sensor 7 4.81 Volts [0xB3] (+5V VCCH)
Voltage sensor 8 3.12 Volts [0xC3] (VBAT)
Temperature sensor 0 44°C (111°F) [0x2C] (TMPIN0)
Temperature sensor 1 42°C (107°F) [0x2A] (TMPIN1)
Fan sensor 0 2722 RPM [0xF8] (FANIN0)
Fan sensor 1 169 RPM [0xF97] (FANIN1)

Hmm hmm..

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 49°C (120°F) [0x62] (core #0)
Temperature sensor 1 52°C (125°F) [0x65] (core #1)

GeForce 8800 GTS hardware monitor

Temperature sensor 0 66°C (150°F) [0x42] (GPU Core)

Dump hardware monitor

Admael · May 14, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

How is your system still running if your +3.3v reads 1.87 and +12/-12 rails read 4.86, 4.67, respectively?

Brianna · May 14, 2008, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Hell If I know, I just have some Antec 500w PSU with 2X 12v rails @ 18 amps per rail apparently.

I know nothing about voltages or what role they play, but my system has been solid as rocks since I built it (Besides my stupid RAM issue, and over-heating occasionally, which never happens in the winter).

Admael · May 14, 2008, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Those are just rated volts/amperages.

As time goes by, the electrolytic capacitors will age, loosing wattage that they first claimed they can hit.

If your 12v rails have degraded to 4v, then your systems shouldn't power on at all, or at least fail to POST.

But I'm pretty sure it's just a bad sensor... because I remember an older mobo of mine crying and whining and refusing to POST just because my old PSU's +3.3v hit 2.9