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Old May 27, 2008, 03:51 PM // 15:51   #1
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I'd like to ask you guys to help me out with a really troublesome problem which is driving me crazy.

The problem is that aprox. every minute my WHOLE system freezes for 3 seconds and then goes back to normal, and again...

This has been happening for 3 days now. I restarted my net, my pc, I have free room on all discs, my pc is not overheated...

Maybe you guys know what the problem is.. Tnx for all the replies in forward.
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Old May 27, 2008, 03:58 PM // 15:58   #2
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What are your PC stats?
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Old May 27, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05   #3
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What are your PC stats?
This is my backup PC meaning I have really bad stats such as:

1500 MHz
1.50GHz
640 MB of RAM
SAPPHIRE Radeon X1550 Series (graph card).. everything is low

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Old May 27, 2008, 04:08 PM // 16:08   #4
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This is my backup PC meaning I have really bad stats such as:

1500 MHz
1.50GHz
640 MB of RAM.. everything is low
Do me a favor and post an output of all the installed programs on your system. You can use the Belarc Advisor to do this if you are unfamiliar with what I am talking about.

http://www.download.com/Belarc-Advis...-10007277.html
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Old May 27, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16   #5
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Operating System System Model

Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600) Enclosure Type: Desktop

Processor a Main Circuit Board b

1,50 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: First International Computer, Inc. VC11 1.X

Bus Clock: 100 megahertz

BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 09/12/2001

Drives Memory Modules c,d

246,26 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
229,03 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

_NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A [CD-ROM drive]
QN3324X MNL103D SCSI CdRom Device [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]

Apple iPod USB Device [Hard drive] (2,01 GB) -- drive 2
HDS728080PLAT20 [Hard drive] (82,35 GB) -- drive 0, s/n PFD215S5UMRJPL, rev PF2OA21B, SMART Status: Healthy
Maxtor 6B160P0 [Hard drive] (163,93 GB) -- drive 1, s/n B42A27DH, rev BAH41E00, SMART Status: Healthy 640 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'A0' has 256 MB
Slot 'A1' has 256 MB
Slot 'A2' has 128 MB
Local Drive Volumes


c: (NTFS on drive 0) 41,94 GB 33,40 GB free
d: (NTFS on drive 0) 40,39 GB 31,79 GB free
f: (NTFS on drive 1) 163,92 GB 163,85 GB free
Network Drives
None detected

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SAPPHIRE Radeon X1550 Series

Virus Protection

Kaspersky Internet Security Version 7.0.1.325
Realtime File Scanning On

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Old May 27, 2008, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #6
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When you say "my PC is not overheated" - are you absolutely certain of that? Try running CoreTemp and posting the results.

(p.s. - people use SMART? oO)

(also: lol at the gwbbcode parsing [pre]KB923618[SP][/pre] as Savage Pounce ^^)
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Old May 27, 2008, 04:40 PM // 16:40   #7
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When you say "my PC is not overheated" - are you absolutely certain of that? Try running CoreTemp and posting the results.

(p.s. - people use SMART? oO)

(also: lol at the gwbbcode parsing [pre]KB923618[SP][/pre] as Savage Pounce ^^)
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This is not an intel "Core" Architecture based processor. This program will not continue.

But anyway, I'm pretty sure my PC is not overheated. It's all cool + I have like 3 fans to cool it down. I had unpleasant experience with overheating troubles before.
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Old May 27, 2008, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #8
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Couple things.

That BIOS you have posted is an older version. That would leave me to believe that your drivers are out of date. Go to your manufacturers website and hit up their Support section for the latest BIOS and driver updates for your computer.

Where are your programs? I am only seeing updates for your computer. The remaining are coming up empty. I don't even see guild wars on there.

Also, check your Kaspersky settings and make sure that you are not running scans during usage hours. Also, if you have an ignore section on your Kaspersky, select your guild wars program and ignore it. I have seen some antivirus programs focus heavily on the network chatter that guild wars creates, and the constant read/writes. Kaspersky is great, however, there are known issue where it detects the Catalyst Control Center from ATI as a potentially dangerous program, which creates system instability.

Last... I would suggest posting how much memory you are using while in GW. You should be able to post both committed memory and paging memory.

I will help until I don't have anything else to offer you.
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Old May 27, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #9
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Like I said, I have a crap PC, but my BIOS is up to date.. sadly in a way.

2. I apologize for my non-awerness and not scrolling down to the very bottom of Belarc.. so here are the programs:

3ivx.com - 3ivx D4 4.5 Version 4, 5, 0, 12 *
Adacta programska oprema d.o.o. - TIS - Karta Version 2.6.4.8 *
Adobe Acrobat Version 8.0.0.0 *
Adobe Reader Version 8.1.0.2007051100 *
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. - Catalyst Control Centre Version 2.0.0.0 *
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. - CatalystŽ Control Center Version 1, 0, 0, 1 *
AFProg *
Ahead Software AG - Nero BackItUp Restore Version 1, 2, 0, 65 *
Ahead Software AG - Nero BackItUp Scheduler Version 1, 2, 0, 65 *
Ahead Software AG - Nero BackItUp Version 1, 2, 0, 65 *
Ahead Software AG - Nero Burning ROM Version 6, 6, 1, 15 *
Ahead Software AG - Nero ImageDrive Version 2, 27, 0, 7 *
Ahead Software AG - Nero StartSmart Version 2, 1, 0, 11 *
Amebis d.o.o. - ASP32 Version 1, 4, 0, 0 *
ArenaNet - Guild Wars Version 1, 0, 0, 1 *
ATI External Event Utility for Windows Version 6.14.10.4190 *
ATI Smart Version 5.13.0027 *
ATI Technologies Inc. - Catalyst Control Centre Version 2.0.0.0 *
Belarc, Inc. - Advisor Version 7.2x *
BST - BSPlayer v1.0 Version 1.0.0.0 *
C. Ghisler & Co. - Total Commander Version 6.51 *
Cinematronics - 3D Pinball Version 5.1.2600.2180 *
CoDecS DashBoard Version 1.0.0.0 *
Diskeeper (TM) Disk Defragmenter Version 11.0.709.0 *
DivX 5 Decoder Properties *
DT Soft Ltd - DAEMON Tools Lite Version 4.12.3.0 *
Gabest - VSConv Version 1, 0, 0, 6 *
Gabest - VSRip Version 1, 0, 0, 6 *
GSpot Codec Information Appliance Version 2, 2, 1, 4 *
Hotspot Shield Launch *
Hotspot Shield Service *
Kaspersky Anti-Virus Version 7.0.1.325 *
Ligos Corporation - LSX-MPEG Player Version 3.0.0.4 *
Microsoft (r) Windows Script Host Version 5.6.0.8825 *
Microsoft Application Error Reporting Version 11.0.8163 *
Microsoft Clip Organizer Version 11.0.8164 *
Microsoft Corporation - DirectShow DirectX 9.0 *
Microsoft Corporation - Internet Explorer Version 7.00.6000.16640 *
Microsoft Corporation - Messenger Version 4.7.3001 * Microsoft Corporation - Messenger Version 8.5.1302 *
Microsoft Corporation - Office Source Engine Version 11.0.5525 *
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Installer - Unicode Version 3.1.4000.1823 *
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Live installer Version 12.0.1471.1025 *
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Media Diagnostic Tool Version 1.0.0.9 *
Microsoft Corporation - Windows Movie Maker Version 2.1.4026.0 *
Microsoft Corporation - WindowsŽ NetMeetingŽ Version 3.01 *
Microsoft Corporation - Zone.com Version 1.2.626.1 *
Microsoft Data Access Components Version 3.525.1117.0 *
Microsoft Office 2003 Version 11.0.8215 *
Microsoft Office Document Imaging Version 11.0.8166.2 *
Microsoft Office InfoPath Version 11.0.8161 *
Microsoft Office Isolated Converter Environment Version 12.0.6021.5000 *
Microsoft Office Outlook Version 11.0.8206 *
Microsoft Office Picture Manager Version 11.0.8161 *
Microsoft Officeov čarovnik za shranjevanje mojih nastavitev/profila Version 11.0.8161 *
Microsoft Open XML Converter Version 12.0.4518.1014 *
MicrosoftŽ .NET Framework Version 2.0.50727.1433 *
MicrosoftŽ .NET Framework Version 3.0.4506.648 *
mIRC Version 6.31 *
Mozilla Corporation - Firefox Version 2.0.0.14 *
Nero AG - Cover Designer Version 2, 3, 7, 0 *
Nero AG - InfoTool Application Version 4, 0, 3, 0 *
Nero AG NeroCheck Version 1, 0, 0, 5 *
Nero CD - DVD Speed Version 4, 5, 1, 1 *
Nero DriveSpeed Version 3, 0, 6, 0 *
Nero SoundTrax Version 1, 0, 0, 57 *
Nero Wave Editor Version 2, 0, 0, 63 *
NonExistent CoDecS/FilterS Remover *
[email protected] - MPEG-4 Codec Defaults Version 1.0.0.0 *
Nullsoft - Winamp Version 5.5.3.1938 *
Realtek Sound Manager Version 5, 1, 0, 59 *
Sun Microsystems, Inc. - Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U5 Version 6.0.50.13 *
Teledat, d.o.o. - TISWIN Version 2.3.8.1 *
Vanguard Software Solutions, Inc. - VSS Video Codec Version 1, 3, 1, 5 *
Ventrilo Application Version 3, 0, 1, 0 *
VFAPI Reade CoDec Version 1.0.0.0 *
Wizards to adjust .NET Framework security, assign trust to assemblies, and fix broken .NET applications. Version 1.0.5000.0 *

I was posting this thread not because my GW has lag spikes but my whole PC, even when I'm typing this thread, I get a lag spike + I have this backup PC for 5 weeks now and Kaspersky had nothing to do with it, but I will ignore gw.

How do I know how much committed and paging memory am I using for GW. I'm a bit slow when it comes to hardware and stuff.. Sorry and I really appreciate your help.
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Old May 27, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #10
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Silly me - I could see it was a P4 too ><

Speedfan then?

(Sorry - I'm a bit obsessed with temperatures at the moment)
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Old May 27, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23   #11
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Do you know how to burn ISO images?

If so, download memtest86 and run a full test on your systems memory. Sounds symptomatic with a faulty memory, dying processor, overheated CPU, or too many usb devices powered by a crap power supply.

I wanted to see if you had any torrent client or P2P programs running.
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Silly me - I could see it was a P4 too ><

Speedfan then?

(Sorry - I'm a bit obsessed with temperatures at the moment)
I'll get a program and post my temps on your thread or here tommorow.
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Do you know how to burn ISO images?

If so, download memtest86 and run a full test on your systems memory. Sounds symptomatic with a faulty memory, dying processor, overheated CPU, or too many usb devices powered by a crap power supply.

I wanted to see if you had any torrent client or P2P programs running.
Can you explain how to burn ISO images? I probably know how to, maybe I'm just not really familliar with "ISO images"

Which ver. of memtest86 do I download under the "Free Download section"?

Thanks in forward and I will notify you with the data tommorow.
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Old May 27, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59   #14
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If this JUST started, than I wouldn't look at drivers, BIOS upgrades etc. Sounds to me you got a virus/maleware on your PC. If your PC was over heating, it would BSOD, restart, or shutdown to prevent any more damage. With such low system specs, I can see the smallest of a program, virus, maleware running in the background taking up CPU% which causes your PC to freeze and come back.
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Old May 27, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14   #15
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If this JUST started, than I wouldn't look at drivers, BIOS upgrades etc. Sounds to me you got a virus/maleware on your PC. If your PC was over heating, it would BSOD, restart, or shutdown to prevent any more damage. With such low system specs, I can see the smallest of a program, virus, maleware running in the background taking up CPU% which causes your PC to freeze and come back.
Most people that post here have infected systems, it is a part of everyday computing now. If you don't know... you don't know.

In your post, you offer no suggestions, so I offer a suggestion. Install Zone Alaram and get pelted with warnings as your malware attempts to bypass ZA.

Low power consumption doesn't always power down your system. Sometimes you get a lag when devices are shutting down and turning on (ACPI plays a part in that). Because of the increased use of usb devices now, which are often powered on constantly, something like an active Ipod or Printer can screw with older systems (many of which are running on 200-300W units) with 1.1 ports on them.

Anyway, faulty memory is a likely cause for a couple reasons. The off pairing of 256, 256, and 128 in slots A0, A1, and A2. Also, the fact that it is a 100mhz bus and means the shelf life for that memory (factory) would be questionable. Older systems were prone to surge damage during volt spikes.

An overheating CPU would create that exact effect. Anyone here who overclocks too high will tell you that a system will sometimes begin to freeze randomly and then finally crash.

A dying hard drive would cause this (the drive would have to hold your OS, though).

I am helping him rule out somethings before he gets the dumb ass comment to upgrade his system.
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I'm noticing a lot of codecs in there - notably the Ace Mega Codecs pack plus divx and possibly the K-Lite as well.

There's a few odd Polish things in there too...
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I'm noticing a lot of codecs in there - notably the Ace Mega Codecs pack plus divx and possibly the K-Lite as well.

There's a few odd Polish things in there too...
Without me connecting to his system remotely and cleaning the piss out of that mess... lol... I have to walk him through getting familiar with his system.
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Most people that post here have infected systems, it is a part of everyday computing now. If you don't know... you don't know.

In your post, you offer no suggestions, so I offer a suggestion. Install Zone Alaram and get pelted with warnings as your malware attempts to bypass ZA.

Low power consumption doesn't always power down your system. Sometimes you get a lag when devices are shutting down and turning on (ACPI plays a part in that). Because of the increased use of usb devices now, which are often powered on constantly, something like an active Ipod or Printer can screw with older systems (many of which are running on 200-300W units) with 1.1 ports on them.
1: If you think everyone has an infected PC think again. If you have an infected PC you =fail. Fix it.
2: I said nothing about power consumption. CPU usage and power consumption are different things.
3: By suggesting he has a virus/maleware, this would imply VIRUS SCAN!
4: Don't try to be Mr. King Helper, we're all here to help 1 another; so quit your bashing.
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1: If you think everyone has an infected PC think again. If you have an infected PC you =fail. Fix it.
2: I said nothing about power consumption. CPU usage and power consumption are different things.
3: By suggesting he has a virus/maleware, this would imply VIRUS SCAN!
4: Don't try to be Mr. King Helper, we're all here to help 1 another; so quit your bashing.
5: Want another suggestion? Eat some cake , it makes everyone feel better.
1. Not everyone, however, statistically, most people are.

2. When I post, post for everyone to read.

3. Virus scans don't do anything once your computer is infected. Once infected, I offer manual removal or reinstallation.

4. I didn't bash you, I said you didn't offer any suggestions after discrediting what I had to say. Mr. King Helper is the Burger King's squire. My head isn't big enough to fill that role.

5. Sounds like some good advice to take. Either that or anger management!
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