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Evil Genius · Jun 15, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44

RAHJA EDIT: I merged the two threads together. It appears that it keeps it by post date and time. Because of that, the title of the thread is mine, but the opening post is that of Evil Genius's. I can't (or don't know how) to fix this. Probably a job for a supermod or admin (would have to deal with tables I assume) So, for now, the edit should show that change and you guys can somehow figure out this twisted version of the combined threads. lol?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-280,1953.html
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334&p=1
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

This thread on Tom's Hardware sums it up nicely: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/25...ks-compilation

Pretty impressive at the high reses, not as great at low res on certain games.

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...80-scores-here

Authentic Rahja?

EDIT: The first benchmarks posted were pre gtx 280 release and from the Inquirer (which doesn't have the best reputation). To reflect the release of the cards and newer/better benchmarks, I have included links to different sites.

Lord Sojar · Jun 16, 2008, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Maybe.... I cannot confirm or deny. I must say though, that Crysis 1.2 DX10 1920x1200 with 4xAA looks a bit low... at least from my test bed.

Tamuril elansar · Jun 16, 2008, 06:49 AM // 06:49

that's really great scores, hope they are real.

Tamuril elansar · Jun 16, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46

omg, that card from XFX costs 550 euro, probly also 550 dollar, ain't that stupid? 1 euro is worth more than a dollar.

moriz · Jun 16, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

i think it's close to $600 US, but who knows.

kvndoom · Jun 16, 2008, 03:40 PM // 15:40

Official review here. Tech Report FTW!

Brianna · Jun 16, 2008, 04:04 PM // 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by kvndoom

Official review here. Tech Report FTW!

Agree'd, I like that site.

I was kind of surprised at it's lack in some games, but nothing has really sunk in since I just woke up. Now just to see the new Radeon's!

PS: Good job on the card Rahja.

moriz · Jun 16, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

HD4850 review here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...88#post3059788

certainly not professionally done, but looks to be pretty credible.

it's somewhat disappointing that the GT280 can't beat the 9800GX2, but i guess i was expecting too much.

Brianna · Jun 16, 2008, 05:08 PM // 17:08

I see what you mean about my question of ATI vs Nvidia moriz.

When you mentioned something about ATI having significantly less ROP's than Nvidia cards - that new card only has 16.. my old 8800 has 20. I'll have to look up later to see exactly what these are and what they do though - don't know the significance.

But I also notice that the new ATI card has 800 stream processors? Wow! That's a lot lol. Well I guess I'll wait till Tech Report* does one of it's huge reviews on it and read up on that, his review was ok though. (Oh and the new version of GPU-Z finally works on my system, hurrah, and it's better than the old ones.)

And I know, I was surprised at the 9800GX2 beating the GTX 280, but I am suspicious. Rahja said that the 280 makes any 9 series look like child's play, so we will see. However I do believe that he has the better end of the stick with the card - and testing it, and since he made it he probably can explain this, cause from what I heard it can do much more.

EDIT: Wiki'd ''ROP'' so here it is:

Quote:

The Render Output Unit, often abbreviated as "ROP", and sometimes called (perhaps more properly) Raster Operations Pipeline, is one of the final steps in the rendering process of modern 3D accelerator boards. The pixel pipelines take pixel and texel information and process it, via specific matrix and vector operations, into a final pixel or depth value. The ROPs perform the transactions between the relevant buffers in the local memory - this includes writing or reading values, as well as blending them together.

Historically the number of ROPs, texture units, and pixel shaders have been equal. However, as of 2004, several GPUs have decoupled these areas to allow optimum transistor allocation for application workload and available memory performance. As the trend continues, it is expected that graphics processors will continue to decouple the various parts of their architectures to enhance their adaptability to future graphics applications. This design also allows chip makers to build a modular line-up, where the top-end GPU are essentially using the same logic as the low-end products.

Snograt · Jun 16, 2008, 05:43 PM // 17:43

/off topic (as is my wont) - but when did Rajah get modship?

Grats, old man

zamial · Jun 16, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snograt

/off topic (as is my wont) - but when did Rajah get modship?

Grats, old man

shortly after a few "naked" pics got posted in here that had no bussiness being anywhere on this forum.

Snograt · Jun 16, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

That was my assumption too. Damn spammers polluting our Tech haven :/

Brianna · Jun 16, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Yeah.. I *could* be a mod because Guru is always open in a tab in Firefox, which is always open too. And I always just hit ''Refresh'' every other hour or something to check up.. so I'd pretty much make a very active mod and be able to keep spam down.

But, I'm not sure I'm up to it, or have any favor with any of the admins and such. I'd only want to be a mod of the Tech corner anyways, because this is a relatively nice area of the forums and it doesn't have a lot of fighting, which is really good. Either way, probably not much of my thing, never have been fond of being a mod.

Just waiting for Rahja to come and tell us if these results are accurate or not.

Snograt · Jun 17, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

I'm here a helluva lot too, but all my PMs suggesting mod-ship get politely ignored.

If I was going to mod anywhere, though, Tech Corner would be it. Now we have mods from both hemispheres, I'm not needed again

Yes, those cards look rather excellent. The march of technology is a bit of a pain when you have the upgrading bug - I will have to close my eyes when I read this forum shortly.

The Meth · Jun 17, 2008, 12:39 AM // 00:39

Heh, looks nice. I'll probably be interested in those figures about 3 or 4 years from now.

Lord Sojar · Jun 17, 2008, 02:21 AM // 02:21

The results are accurate, the ones from TechReport. Although, the test bed sucks from what I can tell.

Behold, my baby. I worked for the last 14 months on this monster. If your pocketbook can take the hit, you won't be sorry. I am quite proud of my baby, and I hope the rest of you drool at it.

Here is the vanilla card from my favorite manufacturer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130365

Here is the eVGA edition on steriods (from the CV-d.005-d.010 batches no doubt)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130366

You wanted an official review, look no further than Anandtech. I had the honor of meeting the man himself last summer, and he is quite the guy.

http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334

Take his word face value. He tells it like it is, whether I like what I hear or not, he is a great reviewer.

As to my modship. Yep, I am the new mod of the Tech Forums after that nasty post (I actually don't like being a mod, but I am in this area enough, and I have some big changes I want to do to this section, and I will not stand for my baby to be polluted by scummy posts like the one you mention). I have a few plans for this area, and some big changes underway. Check out my new "Time for Change: Tech Forum Remodel" thread I will be posting shortly. I will need spots filled for each role, and need the tasks completed so we can get this section clean and tidy for all of our helpless patrons.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianna

PS: Good job on the card Rahja.

Ahhh! I love being appreciated. I designed the fab for "Beastie" as we call her; primarily the PMOS layers of the tricells. We are having a launch party Tuesday, the 24th at my house (because of my condition) My whole engineering team flies in Monday evening (the 23rd), and arranged it with my fiancée. Also, apparently, if we sell more than 50,000 stand alone cards in the first day, my boss (Branch engineer) said he is going to take us all down to the BMW driving experience for a weekend! I have my fingers crossed, because that means I get to take my new car an d actually put some real strain on that beast of an engine. OMG so excited! <3

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

it's somewhat disappointing that the GT280 can't beat the 9800GX2, but i guess i was expecting too much.

Huh? Well, you are comparing two cards against 1!

Moriz, your avatar change has confuzled me! Stop that!

Brianna · Jun 17, 2008, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Congrats! Hope that you can sell enough to get that done, would be a neat experience.

The thread you speak of sounds interesting, I'll check it out of course.

moriz · Jun 17, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

Huh? Well, you are comparing two cards against 1!

Moriz, your avatar change has confuzled me! Stop that!

well, that "two cards" is also about $120 cheaper than this "one card".

anyways, i'm betting there's some work to be done on the driver. theres no way such a beastly (haha) chip can only do this much.

btw, [storm's embrace] is much sexier than some random elf.

Lawrence Chang · Jun 17, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

XFX or BFG are my favs.

Great card, even though I will never drop that many on a video card.

Brianna · Jun 17, 2008, 05:30 AM // 05:30

Ouch at that price tag, that is a card I'm not going to own. Not until I make some more money.

Looks nice though, glad it's finally out. Now to wait until the end of the year.