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Old Apr 10, 2008, 05:15 AM // 05:15   #1
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Default Jumping People and White Cubes

Sometimes when I run GW, I get this very strange glitch possibly a faulty game. Every once in a while, NPCs such as henchmen would keep jumping forward. They would just keep jumping. Even when I make them run to a certain area, they would keep jumping along. I am positively certain that this has nothing to do with the /jump emote.

Also, sometimes when I play, normal players are viewed as white cubes/boxes/rectangular prisms. I can't see who they are, their clothes, they're just white boxes.

And lastly, mysterious monsters pop up. I was running around one time when a spider suddenly appeared in the middle of nowhere. No indicator on the minimap said it was there, but I couldn’t attack either. It happened at several different places as well.

I'm pretty sure it's not a graphics card problem and probably something wrong with my GW files. Because when this happens I rest my computer, and the problems usually stop. It won't happen again until a while later.

I was just wondering if any of you could explain this...
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 05:31 AM // 05:31   #2
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It sounds like your .Dat is corrupted honestly, I'd delete it and re-download all the Guild Wars files again.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44   #3
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would the -image command work here?
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 07:12 AM // 07:12   #4
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Hmm.. well as I said before, if the files are corrupted then that explains a lot of malfunctions in textures, and stuff.

That spider incident he mentioned can only possibly be a corrupted file, there's no way in hell that'd happen any other way, I highly doubt that would be a server glitch.

But yes if you wish you can use -Image on your existing .dat file, but it won't replace old files, if you wish to replace old files you can go to the Guild Wars directory and delete the .dat file, then -image it and get all new fresh files.

I'd honestly recommend this to the OP, I highly doubt it's your graphics card/drivers, I'm 99% positive re-downloading the files will fix this.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 08:34 AM // 08:34   #5
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I have the same problem with the jumping people. With me some foe's i kill even keep standing. Gonna try to fix it with re-downloading.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 12:32 PM // 12:32   #6
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Just re-downloading has a small chance to work, but be prepared to have to delete your .dat file and download a new one. That's what i had to do when i got the jumping NPCs problem. If you have a friend playing GW, it would probably faster to burn a copy of his .dat file and transfer it to your computer, you will loose your video, keyboard and audio settings if you do that though since they are stored in the .dat file.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54   #7
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Just re-downloading has a small chance to work, but be prepared to have to delete your .dat file and download a new one. That's what i had to do when i got the jumping NPCs problem. If you have a friend playing GW, it would probably faster to burn a copy of his .dat file and transfer it to your computer, you will loose your video, keyboard and audio settings if you do that though since they are stored in the .dat file.
Actually this is false, the keyboard settings are stored into the account - as far as the Video and Audio settings go, I can't confirm that, but yeah. Also user interface changes are account based too, but as far as I knew as long as you didn't change computers then your audio/video settings will always remain the same.

Indeed copying it from a friend is faster, but if you let it run over night it should be done in the morning.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22   #8
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Just got this problem myself last week...I reinstalled my corrrupted .dat file, and imaged everything...fixed it for a day then came back. What would be causing my .dat file to keep corrupting and causing the same bug?

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Morgahnn is a white cube, and all the nobles and anyone using that same skin start jumping around...I also get a few merchants of the same skin doing it too...
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49   #9
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Just got this problem myself last week...I reinstalled my corrrupted .dat file, and imaged everything...fixed it for a day then came back. What would be causing my .dat file to keep corrupting and causing the same bug?
Damaged/Failing harddrive, bad sectors.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 01:12 PM // 13:12   #10
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Damaged/Failing harddrive, bad sectors.
Possibly.

I've had both of the afore mentioned problems occur to me, usually the white cubes start after GW is on too long, i just repair and im good to go.

Since i re-installed to my new HDD, not had either problem. (Or any related to GW to be exact.)

It was a Maxtor, maybe yours is, or is in a similar state.

Re-installing never took away the jumping though, it just randomly went after like 4 re-installs. ._.

Good luck, i highly reccomend re-installing to a new HDD.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 01:52 PM // 13:52   #11
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Jumping/teleporting doesn't have to do with the .dat file only the white cubes do. Jumping/teleporting has to do with your internetconnection particularly when it's slow.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 01:55 PM // 13:55   #12
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there's a difference between "jumping", as in npcs don't appear to move but teleport around, and "/jumping", as in repeating the /jump emote over and over again.

the first one is usually caused by bad connections or client/server desyncs (which happens if you alt-tab out of the game for too long). the second one can only be explained by a bad .dat file.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31   #13
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Jumping/teleporting doesn't have to do with the .dat file only the white cubes do. Jumping/teleporting has to do with your internetconnection particularly when it's slow.
It's not jumping as in lag or rubber banding...It is quite literally every NPC with the Vabbian Noble skin will be jumping. The best way to describe it is as the above poster said, like a /jump emote. They take a flying leap forward, almost as if attacking. It is in cutscenes, outposts, explorable areas...everywhere.

I don't think it is a corrupted hard drive, but I do know it's a corrupted .dat. Does anyone know if there's a force repair without re-installing? Frankly 4gig of download is too much for me to re-download all the data atm. I know if it becomes corrupted enough it will repair itself...maybe I'll just have to wait till then.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 03:15 PM // 15:15   #14
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I have the exact same problem you are mentioning, had it for months now. Randomly NPC's will just jump forward and keep doing it all the time. It doesn't happen with everything but randomly it will do it. Enemies too do this sometimes and when I kill them they stay standing but don't attack or anything.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20   #15
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Redownloading the .dat will fix this (speaking from experience). It's also a good idea to make a backup (of the .dat) so you won't have to download much if it happens again.
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Old Jun 16, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28   #16
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I might need to do that for next time... At the moment it's just a minor annoyance, but when 4gig download won't hurt my bandwidth usage for the month so much i might need to redownload. Too bad you can't just redownload bad sectors.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00   #17
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I don't think it is a corrupted hard drive, but I do know it's a corrupted .dat. Does anyone know if there's a force repair without re-installing? Frankly 4gig of download is too much for me to re-download all the data atm. I know if it becomes corrupted enough it will repair itself...maybe I'll just have to wait till then.
The -repair command line argument forces GW to repair the .dat file.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line

How exactly do you know your hard drive isn't corrupted?
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 01:12 PM // 13:12   #18
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The -repair command line argument forces GW to repair the .dat file.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Command_line

How exactly do you know your hard drive isn't corrupted?
Thanks for the tip...

I don't know exactly about my hard drive, thus I said I didn't think it was...It's a seagate and only a few months old. If it is corrupted I'll just exchange it as it's still under warranty. Still nothing else stored on that hard drive (all games) has any problems...just GW.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 01:45 PM // 13:45   #19
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I would suggest doing a chkdsk and a scan disk. These can take a long time to run depending on hardware and disk size. Between xp and vista there are diffwerent ways to this so google is your freind.
I am also going to point out the flawed logic that "it can not be the hard drive because it is new" if this was the case RMA would not exsist. Also the "only guild wars has this problem", It could be that the area that GW is wrote to on the harddrive is bad.
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Old Jun 17, 2008, 02:39 PM // 14:39   #20
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I am also going to point out the flawed logic that "it can not be the hard drive because it is new" if this was the case RMA would not exsist. Also the "only guild wars has this problem", It could be that the area that GW is wrote to on the harddrive is bad.
Thus again I didn't THINK it was my hard drive. i never discounted it, i simply said that's not the first place i'd look for the problem without exhausting all my other possibilities...

Besides, as other people also have this problem it seems highly unlikely that we ALL have bad sectors in our hard drive exactly where gw is stored causing the exact same graphical anomaly....
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