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Hee · Jan 01, 2011, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Hi all,

I've successfully installed GW on my linux box, but when it runs, my character is like invisable ? all i can see is armor.

Is this a simple fix or is more info necessary ?

Any help is appreciated

lorazcyk · Jan 01, 2011, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Do you mean "when the game runs"?
Or "when the character runs"?

Is the character invisible in the Login screen?
Or when you are playing?

Snograt · Jan 01, 2011, 08:05 PM // 20:05

I know absolutely bugger all about the vagaries of Linux systems, but I'd guess that whatever interprets directx into something visual is struggling with the 3d rendering.

Er, a little help here? I'm talking out my ass...

Hee · Jan 01, 2011, 09:10 PM // 21:10

at the character selection and in the game (after login). I've tried using many flavors of linux and same results.
thinking my grafics card is too crapy.

last try was using newest gnome of mint.

Hee · Jan 01, 2011, 09:16 PM // 21:16

but works in win 7 OK

Quaker · Jan 02, 2011, 04:25 PM // 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hee

but works in win 7 OK

Problem solved.

Linux is good for what it's good at, but why try to jam some non-Linux app into it (other than for grins). It's like trying to play Xbox games on a Wii.

In answer to the original question, I'd guess that the video drivers are being confused by GW's transparency settings. Try newer/better/other drivers.

Hee · Jan 02, 2011, 09:33 PM // 21:33

i was sorta hoping it would work. there were old posts on other forums about people who have got it to work, but they were 4-5 years old.

thanks for help

lorazcyk · Jan 03, 2011, 05:52 AM // 05:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hee

at the character selection and in the game (after login). I've tried using many flavors of linux and same results.
thinking my grafics card is too crapy.last try was using newest gnome of mint.

That doesn't mean anything at all. If it helps, I have several kinds of Linux and Guild Wars runs really nice, in max settings, in all of them.
If it works ok in Windows, then obviously, the graphics card is okay.

You need to give us better information than that. Important questions:
What graphics card do you have? Give me the output of:

Code:

lspci -v | grep nVidia

Code:

lspci -v | grep ATI

Make sure to copy that exactly as it shows.
Use whichever one is the card you have, nVidia or ATI

What drivers do you have for it, in Linux? Which version?

Code:

dpkg -l | grep nvidia

Code:

dpkg -l | grep ATI

What is your version of Wine?

Code:

wine --version

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

Linux is good for what it's good at, but why try to jam some non-Linux app into it (other than for grins). It's like trying to play Xbox games on a Wii.

Uhhh, what utter bull crap. The comparison isn't even remotely close.
I, and many others, have been running Guild Wars in Linux, for years.

End · Jan 03, 2011, 06:18 AM // 06:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorazcyk

Uhhh, what utter bull crap. The comparison isn't even remotely close.
I, and many others, have been running Guild Wars in Linux, for years.

Actually, it's not to far off just not worded right. Yeah you can play a game orignially designed for a 360 on the wii if they work with it and change any needed code to make it work but it's never going to be as good as playing it on the 360. I've played Guild wars on a couple different flavors of linux. Some it worked great others not so great. But none of them had the same proformance as running it in the operating system it was intended for.

For the problem at hand yeah mess around and see if you can get some better drivers.

Hee · Jan 03, 2011, 09:38 PM // 21:38

Here's my video I think -

[email protected] ~ $ lspci -v | grep Intel
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub (rev 07)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 93) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation ICH9M/M-E SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.6 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) Thermal Subsystem (rev 03)

Hee · Jan 03, 2011, 09:41 PM // 21:41

[email protected] ~ $ dpkg -l | grep Intel
ii intel-gpu-tools 1.0.2+git20100324-0ubuntu1 tools for debugging the Intel graphics driver
ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.12.0-1ubuntu5 X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx
display driver

[email protected] ~ $ wine --version
wine-1.2.1

here's hoping -

Quaker · Jan 04, 2011, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorazcyk

Uhhh, what utter bull crap. The comparison isn't even remotely close.
I, and many others, have been running Guild Wars in Linux, for years.

Yes, I'm sure you've been playing GW for years, but I'm also sure it would run much better in Windows.
I also realize that people have many different reasons for wanting to run Linux. I used to run Linux on my Ventrilo server years ago. I can also understand running GW in Linux just for the experience/fun of it but...

Personally, I've never seen the point of (long term) running GW in Linux (or OSX) when the easiest & best solution is to just run it in Windows. And, yes, I've heard all the BS about the "problems" with Windows, blah, blah, blah, and how horribly long it takes to dual-boot into Windows (must be whole minutes), blah, blah, blah.

Hee · Jan 05, 2011, 12:24 AM // 00:24

ya whatever. i just like linux better. GW is the last thing i need to get going to rid my system of windows altogether.
hopefully i'll be able to get it goin.

ensoriki · Jan 05, 2011, 01:19 AM // 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

Yes, I'm sure you've been playing GW for years, but I'm also sure it would run much better in Windows.
I also realize that people have many different reasons for wanting to run Linux. I used to run Linux on my Ventrilo server years ago. I can also understand running GW in Linux just for the experience/fun of it but...

Personally, I've never seen the point of (long term) running GW in Linux (or OSX) when the easiest & best solution is to just run it in Windows. And, yes, I've heard all the BS about the "problems" with Windows, blah, blah, blah, and how horribly long it takes to dual-boot into Windows (must be whole minutes), blah, blah, blah.

Windows costs money.
GG.

End · Jan 05, 2011, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensoriki

Windows costs money.
GG.

Cept if you go to a good college that gives you a free copy of windows 7 right after it comes out for free

and before that use the windows 7 beta and before that trade a copy of a game you don't play anymore for an old but still good copy of vista.

I has yet to buy an OS for this system.

lorazcyk · Jan 06, 2011, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Hi, I'm back.

Hmm Intel. I don't have experience with Intel gfx at all, so I'm probably not going to be much help. So I don't know if this will fix your particular problem, but maybe it can improve things overall:

* Add Option "SwapbuffersWait" "false" under the Devices section of your xorg.conf.
* Since you're using Ubuntu/Mint, upgrade to the latest wine. Are you using Wine's Launchpad PPA? You should be!

* Also, I don't know if you're running Compiz (fancy desktop effects) but turn it off when you play GW. This is probably a good idea since you've got Intel gfx.
* Run 'wine regedit' and create a key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/wine/Direct3D" and give it the value "UseGLSL"

Let us know if that improves things. And hopefully someone else will chip in with more ideas.

Roen · Jan 06, 2011, 09:54 PM // 21:54

I had exact same issue when I just setup my new PC with Fedora 14. I'm using an ATI 5xxx series card and got it working by fiddling with some settings. It'll be late tonight when I get home but if I remember I'll check the settings I used to get it working and post them here.

thedukesd · Jan 07, 2011, 07:36 PM // 19:36

In the future I will migrate from Win XP to Linux (probably Ubuntu). Anyway I decided to use my 3rd pc that i have in home (first is mine, second is my father) get used more with linux until I will fully migrate to Linux.
If you are wondering why not Win 7 because well I don't like Win 7 as I didn't liked Vista.

So here is the configuration of the machine running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS x86 (with 10.10 I had some problems like not getting any of the 2 taskbars at start and forced to run some terminal comands to get them back):
MB: ASUS M2N (nforce 430)
CPU: Athlon Le-1640 2700Mhz
GPU: GeForce 7300GT
RAM: 1 GB DDR2
Sound: Creative Audigy SE

I decided to use Wine from Ubuntu's repositories and not the latest Wine beta version. Had no problem installing GW using the installer downloaded from GW webpage.
* After this GW was starting fine but only in login screen I had sound no sound in char select or in any area of the game. Solved this with wine config by setting Audio Tab at Hardware Acceleration -> Emulation
* Second problem was that after I was minimizing gw I was not able to restore the window. Solved this with wine config by unticking Allow the window managet to control the window & Allow the window manager to decorate the window
* Thirth problem now minimize & restore GW were working (GW was running in full screen) but after restore keyboard was not working in GW. Solved this with wine config by ticking Enable a vitual destop and chosing there 1024x768 (the monitor that I'm using for this pc can't handle more). (this also improved fps)

Still had some problems with temp lockdowns and fps drops.
So:
- System-Administration-NVIDIA X server Settings - X Screen 0 - OpenGL setting and here I set Image Settings to Performance
- Guld Wars Options - Graphics here I set Visual Quality to Fastest and at Advanced everything on Low or None left ticked only Wait for vertical sync
- Guld Wars Options - Sound - Sound Quality to Fastest (Use 3D Audio Hardware and Use EAX were grayed)

Result was a minor improvement in fps, but the lockdowns and the strange fps drops were not gone.
(in the same time i set System-Preferences-Appearance-Visual Effects to none but probably this has no effect on GW framerate)

Moved to registry:
* OffscreenRenderingMode -> fbo
had no effect, i think fbo is default
* DirectDrawRanderer -> opengl
improved fps a lot, still had some temp image lockdowns
* RenderTargetLockMode -> auto
visible fps drop, even more image lockdowns
based on my readings this is supposed to be default settings but somehow if make this key there are more often image lockdowns
* UseGLSL -> disabled
severe fps drop everywhere (25-33% less fps; not funny to have 12 fps in crowded area in kamadan d1), less image lockdowns but still present

So the only problem that remains is the image lockdowns (freeze for ~1s) that sometimes happens. I don't think the .dat file is corupted cause I downloaded yesterday with -image after installing gw on the linux.

The image lockdowns happens when moving the camera only first time I see that image after that I never happens again, also it don't happen in all the areas. Any ideas how to fix this?

Notes:
- nvidia drivers are the ones recomended in Hardware Drivers
- gw is started with WINEDEBUG=-all wine "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -perf

L.E.:
* added to gw start shortcut -dsound, same problem if i set in Audio tab Hardware Acceleration to Full (with -dsound and Hardware Acceleration to Full I have also sound in char select but once I load an area no sound, changing the area result in no sound also)
* in Guild Wars Options - Graphics changed Refresh Rate to 60 and unticked Wait for vertical sync (after changing refresh rate to 60 with Wait for vertical sync I was still seeing 85+ fps in some areas, 85 is the max refresh suported by the monitor so Wait for vertical sync was not working...)
* Nvidia X Server Settings - X screen 0 - Antialiasing settings checked Antialiasing settings - Override Aplication Settings and set this to Off (just in case)

Hee · Jan 10, 2011, 10:47 AM // 10:47

thanks all for trying to help. still no luck. i tried several other flavors with a few tweaks that were suggested and no change.
oh - i tried crossover - same thing. has anyone tried cedega ?

i wonder if it will run on hackintoch - lol

cebalrai · Jan 12, 2011, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

Yes, I'm sure you've been playing GW for years, but I'm also sure it would run much better in Windows.
I also realize that people have many different reasons for wanting to run Linux. I used to run Linux on my Ventrilo server years ago. I can also understand running GW in Linux just for the experience/fun of it but...

Personally, I've never seen the point of (long term) running GW in Linux (or OSX) when the easiest & best solution is to just run it in Windows. And, yes, I've heard all the BS about the "problems" with Windows, blah, blah, blah, and how horribly long it takes to dual-boot into Windows (must be whole minutes), blah, blah, blah.

I've been running GW on Linux Mint for years at 60 FPS.