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Old Oct 23, 2008, 09:18 AM // 09:18   #21
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Do not underestimate the comfort that a "nice" keyboard can bring you. If I had a tighter budget a few months ago when I bought my G15, I would still have been very happy with the Microsoft Comfort Curve that did't cost me a lot of money. Typing is one of the most stressing efforts for our hands, because we type a lot and it requires a lot of movement and action from muscles, joints, etc.

I'm not understimating anithing buddy. just saying that whith the budget that i have atm, i need to stick whith something more cheap rathe the confortable. and yes i know what u mean by "writing is the most stressing effort", cause i play for about 24 month and i type like a lot :P
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51   #22
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I use a the Logitech G5 mouse and the Comfort Curve 2000 keyboard, good mix and it works for me.

The Comfort Curve keyboard is nice at first, but after a while it gets serious wear and tear (depending on how much you use your computer, lots of typing and gaming wear it fast) they will go to crap really fast and become more of a problem. I have gone through about 4 of them now in a year and a half or so. The keys degrade really bad and it becomes stressful to type fast with it, makes you have more typos. It almost seems like you have to push harder and harder over time and they just don't respond as good. But for 20$ (USD) what do you expect, good deal and easy to replace.

The G5.. well mine survived a full cup of water getting spilled on it, and naturally lots of use, best mouse I've ever used - if it was generic I'd have broken it like 5 times over like all my old ones before this.
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 06:18 PM // 18:18   #23
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I'v been hearing very nice stuff of the Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 and is price is reasonably fair for me atm.
I used to run an Intellimouse a few years ago, and I knew a few other people who did. My experience with MS mice at the time was that they had very poor quality micro-switches in them (the switches that are actuated by the mouse buttons). They would often develop a condition where the contacts in the switch would "bounce" and a single click would act like a double click. The best solution I found (at the time) was to replace the switches with ones from old Logitech mice, which never seemed to have the problem. Since then, I've switched to using Logitech mice.
That was a few years ago though, and I had read that it occured mostly with mice made in Mexico. Things may have improved by now.
As I side note, although you can set the speed of a double-click in the mouse properties in Control Panel, there is no way to set a "minimum" speed to prevent switch bounce from being read as a double click (or accidental twitch clicks either.)
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 06:40 PM // 18:40   #24
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I like the Microsoft Sidewinder mouse myself - rugged
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46   #25
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I just ordered these to go with my orange Acer G24 monitor:






Saitek Cyborg Keyboard - £44.95 plus free delivery offer

Razer Deathadder Guild Wars Ed - £29.36 plus free delivery as a Hexus member



The monitor they are being bought to go together with:





I also found a picture with the full bundle from Acer paired up with the blue Logitech keyboard and mouse:





I think my combination will be better, but I dont have that PC case, just the monitor.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30   #26
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I use any cheap usb keyboard :P. Been through about 3 of them but idc, I get them for like free. As for the mouse its mostly comfort I guess. I rocked a ball mouse for a long time playing FPS games . Now using a wireless Microsoft laser mouse thats comfortable and good enough for GW. Just try and go out to stores to get the feel for some if you can. I am looking to get a nice Logitech/Razer set up soon though.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 02:59 AM // 02:59   #27
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I use a saiteck eclipse 2 keyboard and I love it like another poster said. It is a very underestimated keyboard. the key stroke is small and keys are back lit in 3 different colors and you can control the brightness. blue, red and purple. the keys are also quiet. I have had mine for 1.5+ years now and would be very reluctant to get anything but. It does not have any fancy built in display but it is perfect in my opinion. Make sure it is the eclipse 2 and not the original eclipse.

Mouse,I have a logitech Mx518 I also like it alot. However I seldom use the extra buttons on it. I suggest a corded mouse as dead batteries in the middle of an intense gaming session is why my cordless mouse met an untimely demise with a wall.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13   #28
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It's all down to personal preference. You really need to go into a shop that sells these items and have a play with them to see what's comfortable for you.

Personally, I use a <a href="http://www.ideazon.com/au/products/mercgamingkeyboard.asp">ZBoard Merc Keyboard</a> and <a href="http://www.ideazon.com/au/products/reapergamingmouse.asp">ZBoard Reaper Mouse.</a>

The whole keyboard is completely customisable via software templates (comes with heaps of templates including one for GW, more can be downloaded). You can edit the templates too.
The mouse has 6 programmable buttons and a button to change the DPI on the fly.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04   #29
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Hello everyone!

Wow i'v seen nice stuff u guys have
However i just went for a cheach logitech keyboard :P andthe Intellimouse 3.0. The mouse is quite good, but the keyboard...jesus...lol i tried to play yesterday night for the first time, and i must say... its quite different from my former keyboard (a laptop keyboard). lol

this is the keyboard i'm using: http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/ke...177&cl=roeu,en

and here's the mice:
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/ga...s.aspx?pid=087

Keep posting your stuff guys. i can see many good stuff outthere
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 08:45 AM // 08:45   #30
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I used to have a Microsoft Intellimouse first revision, and a normal generic keyboard.

The difference between that mouse and my current Razer Diamondback was unbelievable. At the time I used to play Worms Armaggedon and with the Intellimouse, I was having to drag it across the whole mouse mat to scroll the screen. After I got a Diamondback, I no longer had to drag the mouse, just moving it by one or two inches was now enough.

The Intellimouse 3.0 looks a lot better then the one I used to have though, so it should be fine, but I am not too sure about what sensor it uses and the Razer Salmosa costs the same with a full 1800 DPI 3G sensor (Same one found on the more expensive Deathadder and 3G Diamonbacks, but it is cheaper as it has no lights).

But that is just nitpicking, I would have still chosen a Saitek Eclipse over any other generic keyboard.
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #31
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I don't understand the attraction of illuminated keys: It adds to the keyboard cost, and for what? So I can play with the lights off? Firstly I don't want to damage my eyes even more, by playing with the lights off (onoes, I am not a "dark" gamer :-P)... and secondly, a "good" gaming keyboard lets me play without having to look at it anyway.

It seems to me, most "gaming" keyboards are just regular keyboards with a few extra buttons and possibly better engineering - and they actually have very little ergonomic advantage over a regular keyboard. In my opinion, that's where keyboards like Ideazon Merc/Fang, Wolfking etc have an advantage. They don't tend to have the "better engineering" on them though :-P
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Old Oct 24, 2008, 11:09 AM // 11:09   #32
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It's whatever you're comfortable with. I say go into a store, get a feel for each of them, then take note of which ones you like. Afterwards, you can compare them for specs and such and other things to help you break it down to 1.
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Old Oct 25, 2008, 05:52 AM // 05:52   #33
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There are my babies:



Sidewinder by Microsoft. If you have large hands, it is the mouse for you. It is HUGE though, so be aware of that.

For my keyboard, I have the original blue G15. The new orange version is....meh...not so great.

Once my G15 dies, I am getting this:

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Old Oct 25, 2008, 08:30 AM // 08:30   #34
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Yea, I saw that Sidewinder mouse, but didnt really like the look or it myself.

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I don't understand the attraction of illuminated keys: It adds to the keyboard cost, and for what? So I can play with the lights off? Firstly I don't want to damage my eyes even more, by playing with the lights off (onoes, I am not a "dark" gamer :-P)... and secondly, a "good" gaming keyboard lets me play without having to look at it anyway.

It seems to me, most "gaming" keyboards are just regular keyboards with a few extra buttons and possibly better engineering
They are for modders / enthusiasts mainly. And how is the light from keys on your keyboard going to damage your eyes anymore then a monitor would? Wait ... how exactly does light damage your eyes unless you stare at the sun for a few hours?

Gaming keyboards just look nicer on the desk and can be themed around certain styles and colors. Also, I heard that macros are good.

The Saitek Eclipse is actually one of the best looking and well designed Black keyboards available, and only costs £5 - £10 more the a generic keyboard. The keys are also far far better, I dont know how to describe it, but I have a basic microsoft keyboard alongside my Eclipse and the keys are a lot flimsier and worse off on it.

I'll try taking some pictures or the current stuf I have.


Here:







My 5 Mpix phone is borked, so you'll have to make do with crappy pictures. I think the second one is just plain visual polution, and it has no wrist rest for my sore aching wrists.

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Old Oct 25, 2008, 08:48 AM // 08:48   #35
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As for mice I prefer the Razer Deathadder (both I and my wife have the GW edition and love them). As for keyboards be aware that some programs, including firewalls and antivirus may cause issues with USB keyboards not communicating properly. So in tense PvP action your computer may not react when you press the key to finish off your opponet. I have had it happen several times. I know that Avast Anti-virus does have this issue. I have heard that there is a firewall wich really slows down your USB Keyboard but as of yet, that has not been confirmed.
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Old Oct 25, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00   #36
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Illuminated keyboards are ideal for people like me. My pc is in the bedroom - I need a light-up keyboard, otherwise my wife throws things at me.

I agree with Rahj about the Sidewinder mouse - great bit of kit. The keyboard too - if I had one of them, I'd never WASD again ^^

Oh, and bhavv? Get a new phone now. The camera on that one makes it look like your monitor is vomit-orange
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Old Oct 25, 2008, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #37
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Yea I need an RMA on my K850, the camera lens wont open and bluetooth doesnt work . Worst phone ever made, I have already sent it back twice in the last year! The monitor isnt that bright or loud in reality, it is subtle and dull, but has a really glossy polish that just reflects the camera flash too much.

I was hoping my cyborg and deathadder would arrive today, but the delivery is weekday only.

For some strange reason I always order on late thurs / fri and have to wait untill monday.



EDIT - My Deathadder arrived today, and I am in both shock and awe.

I just cannot believe just how I have gone on for so long without this mouse! It is 100% perfect for a right handed gamer, the ergonomics and bulkier body are a huge improvement over my Diamondback, and actually also over all the Microsoft mice I have owned in the past. Surprisingly, it seems that Razer learnt a thing or two about ergonomics from the Habu that they designed with Microsoft.

I just regret not ordering the keyboard from Scan as well - they got it back in stock over the weekend, and my free delivery with them is next day. The free delivery from the place I ordered from seems to be economy class as it didnt arrive yet, but hopefully it will be here tomorrow.

My Blue Saitek Eclipse just looks completely out of place now and has become an eye sore - I need orange keys which my Cyborg will have . I dont really want my Cyber Snipa anymore either and will Ebay it with my old mouse + keyboard.

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