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Old Oct 22, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57   #1
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Cool Keyboard+Mouse: Best choice for play-to-Win and Other questions

Hello Everyone!

My laptop graphic card went puff for 3 weeks now, and i'm starting to building a desktop computer. I have the core computer components and monitor, but i have some doubts about what keyboard and mouse to chose.

Some people say Razor are best, other people say Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 is better. I'm quite confused since i have never ever played whith this kind of hardware. When i was playing in my laptop i had a 2 button mouse (yes i infused whith finger on a 15" screen, and i couldnt even think in protting sinse things got confused in the screen ) and the usual laptop keyboard.
So, i would ask if you people can give me your opinion about what mouse and keyboard you use, and why, so i can clarify ideias in my mind in order to decide what to buy.


Other question i would like to ask is: Since i'm gonna install GW in a new computer, I would like to install things whith all the PvP scenarios (so i dont let people waiting for me to load all maps and stuff) and the PvE ones to, since i like to farm things also . So, i know there is a -image thingy and i know there is a specific topic for it somewhere in this forum, but i couldnt find it what so ever. If someone can be gentil enought to gimme the post so i can read it, i would apreciate very very much

I think thats all my doubts for now.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 09:25 AM // 09:25   #2
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Keyboard and mouse is all down to personal prefference. I use a Razer copperhead mouse. I have a small space in which to move my mouse, so the higher dpi helps. Keyboard is a logitech G-15. Both are down to personal choice.


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Old Oct 22, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #3
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For keyboard, I'm still using a Cherry RS6000 from my first build several years ago. It's very plain, but nice and solid.

I've been through many mice, though. I've had a couple of MS Intellimouse Explorers and an MS "Designer" mouse. None impressed me very much, especially the "Designer" one, which rates alongside a Logitech iFeel as the worst mice I've ever used.

I don't like paying too much for mice, because none of them ever last, but I have had a couple of Razor Boomslangs (the original ball version) that I picked up on sale. They were great for FPS gaming, and I liked the nice wide design, which made my hand feel more relaxed than any other mouse I've used, but the buttons on both started to "double-click" in less than six months. Maybe they'd already deteriorated in a warehouse, due to being old stock, but I was very glad I hadn't paid the usual Razor prices for them.

I'm currently using a cheap Logitech RX1000 laser mouse and it's just about perfect. Feels solid and it's lasted over a year. As far as features go, I've never seen the point in anything beyond 2 buttons and a wheel. Extra buttons often seem to lead to a creakier construction and more places for gunk to collect.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 10:29 AM // 10:29   #4
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Logitech + Razor for mice. Razor ones are especially light which I myself prefer.

As for keyboards, I bought a Saitek one recently and its got the nicest typing action and quietest keys of any keyboard I have ever had.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 10:53 AM // 10:53   #5
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I am using Razer - Death Adder as mouse (pretty comfortable mouse with 5 'big enough' buttons).

And the Timberwolf by Wolfking, which is more or less aimed at FPS players but gives me easier access to multiple keys on the left hand. It took a while to get used to it but I sure don't wanna miss it.

The G15 from Logitech seems also to be pretty popular with gamers for the programmable side buttons (scripting) although there where some issues reported of those with Guild Wars and botting lately, be wary.

Hope that helps a bit to make up your mind.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02   #6
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[QUOTE=timebandit;4312871]

The G15 from Logitech seems also to be pretty popular with gamers for the programmable side buttons (scripting) although there where some issues reported of those with Guild Wars and botting lately, be wary.
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yeah...! i'v hurd about those issues, seems a bit contraditory to me, but thats another story :P

Tanks for the reps. Keep posting pls
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08   #7
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I use the logitech G-11 keyboard which is the G-15 without the LCD screen, also use the Logitech MX610 gaming mouse its great with its 10 programmable buttons but its only for us left handed gamers.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 11:12 AM // 11:12   #8
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I'm using an Ideazon Fang instead of keyboard for pretty much everything except for typing in chat. Despite it being a bit "plasticy" it's served me reliably for quite some time now.

It comes with templates for most popular games, but you can program each key to whatever you like (to suit your preferred layout). It will show most functions for each game and you can "drag and drop" them onto a map of the keyboard. This is particularly convenient for moving key assignments around. Of course you can add keystrokes directly to any key as well, if the function you want isn't in the template or you re-assigned your keys in GW's own customisation.

It will also do keyboard macros, although I've never much need to use any.

I like it because it lets me do everything without looking away from the screen, it has nice big movement keys, it works equally well for both left- and right-handed people, I can use whatever regular keyboard I like when I'm not gaming... and it's cheap.

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Old Oct 22, 2008, 01:50 PM // 13:50   #9
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I fell in love with the G11 as soon as i saw it, and saved up for one. Now to hunt down a sexy mouse to match.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 02:31 PM // 14:31   #10
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Logitech is a good choice and the cheaper G-11 is a nice basic keyboard (easy to map keys). And it is lighted which I find very important. I guess one of the above posts said it has 10 keys??? Well mine has 3 sets of 6 programmable keys on the left side. (movement/targeting/pickup items/highlight friend and foe) work real nice. Using it this way leaves the mouse open for skill click or what ever. I have the g-5 mouse which also has a couple program keys on it (great for mapping 2 skills…hint interruption skills) The dpi function is kinda funky in GW. It lags on switching while playing, so you do not bump the button that changes it. I guess if money is an issue start with the keyboard and later add the mouse. I have not tried the Razor but I guess I find no need to I am currently happy with my Logitech setup.


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Old Oct 22, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54   #11
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i play on a razer deathadder and an old dell usb keyboard. i find GW places more emphasis on the mouse than the keyboard... or at least, that's my playstyle.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #12
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I also have a G15 refresh keyboard, and a Logitech G5 (the one pictured above). The best ones I have bought so far. If you go for them, you'll know you got some good stuff.

Also, if you can, try to go for cable mouse and keyboard. Wireless ones are, imo, a waste of money, especially on desktops. I had some wireless keys and mouse, and it annoyed the hell out of me.

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Old Oct 22, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06   #13
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Hi...My BF & I play on Desktop PC's side by side (( Have a recording studio in our home..cuz he's in the music biz..)) and have been into "GW" for 2 1/2 yrs....We both use the " Logitech..G5 Laser Gamming Mouse " programable...2000 dpi..& comes with adjustable weights. Most AWSOME mouse I've ever used!!!! (( Now if your into Cordless they make the Logitech G7...but personally I'm not good about the battery changin thing! lol )) One really cool thing about " Logitech "...they stand behind there products, no questions asked...Mine happened to crack a few months ago (( which was a REAL RARE thing to happen )) they replaced it & sent a new one ASAP!!!
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #14
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I use a Logitech MX518 and a generic BenQ keyboard. I bought the BenQ a few years ago - I liked the style of it and it turned out to have a really good feel to it. (I was playing an FPS at the time). The particular model isn't available any more, but I haven't felt the need to "upgrade" it yet.
The MX518 fits my hand nicely, and one of the thumb buttons (which used to be a grenade toss) now functions as "target nearest foe".

Bottom line - as has been said - there is no "best". There are mice/keyboards that have the functions/feel/look you want and it's really a matter of personal choice.
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 08:29 PM // 20:29   #15
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Razer is quite expensive and comes with features that seem pretty but don't do much good, like gold plated usb connectors (those are kind of useless since most motherboard usb plugs aren't gold, plus you're not going to notice the few extra ms anyway) and you pay extra for just the brand, and they can't be found much in regular stores (in Europe that is)


There are 2 versions of the G15 (a blue one v1, and a orange one v2) the v1 is big and has lots of extra buttons you can program, the v2 has less programmable buttons but is slightly upgraded with a better lcd screen.

G5 is a really nice mouse with nifty features (weight cartridges ftw) and mine hasn't worn out yet after serious monking (though the Logitech logo is kind of gone) and the mouse cable feels nice. >.>


In short: I have a G15 v1 keyboard and a G5 mouse (both from Logitech) and after years their still working.


PS: Painbringer, why does my G5 look differently then the one displayed on your picture?

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Old Oct 22, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20   #16
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PS: Painbringer, why does my G5 look differently then the one displayed on your picture?

Not sure I pulled the picture from the logitech site. Mine looks just like it. I purchased mine at Best Buy just this year. Maybe a different year model?
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Old Oct 22, 2008, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #17
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My 2 cents for you: do no buy any "expensive" (whatever that is for you) peripheral without testing it yourself, have a feel and decide whether you like it, or if you prefer another one.

I bought my Razer Diamondback mouse without trying it, because I knew from all I read that it was as good as I know it is now. It's got a brilliant ergonomic design, it's light, very sharp and fast. This combined with a £4 Gel Wrist Rest mouse mat bought at Tesco and I'm very happy (and my arms, wrists and hands feel better ).

But for my keyboard, I tried a few of them, and then decided based on what I wanted in terms of features and feeling, and the budget. I bought a G15 (thanks to people on a thread I created here) and it's extremely good, with its backlit keys, and its solid feel. I first thought that it had a too "rough" feeling, compared to the Microsoft Comfort Curve (a very nice keyboard I'd recommend, in particular as you can find it cheap at £12), or even the Reclusa.

You're 100% right to focus on these elements, as they're the ones you'll be interacting with thousands of times a day via your hands. GL in your search.

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Old Oct 23, 2008, 07:39 AM // 07:39   #18
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Hi everyone! Tankx for the replies!

After reading your answers and considering my budget right now, it seems that i'm rlly shot on buget (lol). However, i think i'll focus in a nice mouse for now. I'v been hearing very nice stuff of the Microsoft Intellimouse 3.0 and is price is reasonably fair for me atm. I can see that many people likes the G15 Mouse+Keyboard from logitech, but atm my budget cant reach those equipments

Keep posting your stuff, and tankx for the replies
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Old Oct 23, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07   #19
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i prefer a Zboard together with a logitech G5 for the keyboard it's all down to personal choice ( a buddy has the G15; but i still slightly prefer my smaller zboard to it)

for the mouse i had alot of mouses even the good old Razer boomslang, but i have yet to come across a mouse that's better than the G5 it has a nice feel to it loads of options and even after hours of pvp'ing in freelancer (where you have to dodge like nuts half of the time) my arm doesn't feel like it's going to fall off like i've had with other mouses.

And about the G5 looking different, every G5 has it's custom patern just like it was with the Mx 518.
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Do not underestimate the comfort that a "nice" keyboard can bring you. If I had a tighter budget a few months ago when I bought my G15, I would still have been very happy with the Microsoft Comfort Curve that did't cost me a lot of money. Typing is one of the most stressing efforts for our hands, because we type a lot and it requires a lot of movement and action from muscles, joints, etc.
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