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Bob Slydell · Jun 25, 2009, 03:51 AM // 03:51

===Problem has been solved===

Helix Dreadlock · Jun 25, 2009, 04:38 AM // 04:38

If you could define BSOD I may be able to help

Braxton619 · Jun 25, 2009, 04:46 AM // 04:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock

If you could define BSOD I may be able to help

BSOD = Blue Screen of Death

I would say its faulty RAM. Replace the RAM and see if it is doing it again.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 25, 2009, 04:47 AM // 04:47

BSOD = Blue Screen of Death (you couldn't have just googled it?)

caballo_oscuro · Jun 25, 2009, 04:58 AM // 04:58

If you look at the BSOD, you will see a line near the top in all caps with some underscores between words. It will read something like:

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

or

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

BSOD errors usually occur when there's either a hardware misconfiguration or fault or a driver is misconfigured/corrupted.

Find that line of caps and underscores, write it down and google it. Most likely a driver you're using is being asked to make hardware do something it can't do by whatever game you're playing. So it'll either need a driver upgrade or a hardware change or some tweaking somewhere but without that error, I can't really help you more than this.

If there is something wrong with the memory, you should try swapping out the memory and do what you were doing when the problem occurred. If it doesn't reoccur then you know it's definitely the memory.

Bob Slydell · Jun 25, 2009, 06:23 AM // 06:23

Well I can't really do what I was doing when it occured as it was random, I tried to recreate it by right clicking again and it was fine so it seems to be random. And when I have the time i'll have to put back my old 2x 1024 Sticks back in but Its late and I gotta grab the scrw driver to pop this little door of the bottom of the iMac and stuff so yeah I'll prob do it tomomorow and re run the perfmon.exe with the same monitor going and see what happens.

Kinda sucks that it MIGHT be the ram.. I bought it for around $30 in February from newegg and it really showed an improved loading time, I only increased the ram by 1 GB but it really gave it an extra kick. Since I won't be playing EverQuest II for a while anyways cause' i cancelled my account, might just throw the ol trusty 2x 1024's back in and fire up GW again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by caballo_oscuro

If you look at the BSOD, you will see a line near the top in all caps with some underscores between words. It will read something like:

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

or

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

Yeah I remember seeing that line on some computers in the past, but the problem with this one is, it pops up for less than 0.5 seconds and just restarts the computer and then brings back up the OSX and Windows XP Boot selections... Really fast.

avantix · Jun 25, 2009, 06:41 AM // 06:41

I am 90% sure this is a memmory Leak Issue

if u look at you oage file usuage in Perfomance manager and check that the age file usuage goes up if the system is idle then that would be your issue.

Brett Kuntz · Jun 25, 2009, 06:48 AM // 06:48

Memory leaks don't really exist anymore, this is a case of bad ram.

http://www.memtest.org/

Download (free), burn ISO, boot computer with CD in drive, and run a full memory test on your computer. It's all automatic, no need to press any keys to set anything up, just boot the CD and let it run for 12+ hours. 1 test (pass) is not enough, do around 5 to 10 depending on how long they are taking. If there is even ONE error, it means your RAM is bad, or your CPU. But most likely your RAM, since memtest86+ isn't too hard on your CPU.

Bob Slydell · Jun 25, 2009, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by avantix

I am 90% sure this is a memmory Leak Issue

if u look at you oage file usuage in Perfomance manager and check that the age file usuage goes up if the system is idle then that would be your issue.

What I learned about a memory leak was that it is when a program is shut down, it dosen't return memory back to the system, could be all memory the program was using or only some. If that's what it is I'm not surprised. EverQuest II's game client is the most poorly coded and configured game client there is. Even with a godly computer you will never escape errors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kuntz

Memory leaks don't really exist anymore, this is a case of bad ram.

http://www.memtest.org/

Download (free), burn ISO, boot computer with CD in drive, and run a full memory test on your computer. It's all automatic, no need to press any keys to set anything up, just boot the CD and let it run for 12+ hours. 1 test (pass) is not enough, do around 5 to 10 depending on how long they are taking. If there is even ONE error, it means your RAM is bad, or your CPU. But most likely your RAM, since memtest86+ isn't too hard on your CPU.

I'll try that, but I had to search for a mac one because this thing dosen't work exactly like a PC in that the Windows bios is emulated until Windows fires up.

Brett Kuntz · Jun 25, 2009, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisworld

I'll try that, but I had to search for a mac one because this thing dosen't work exactly like a PC in that the Windows bios is emulated until Windows fires up.

MemTest86+ is in itself a mini-OS, and does not need Windows or anything else installed. As long as you have an x86 processor and some way of booting into MemTest86+, it will work.

Tarun · Jun 26, 2009, 01:37 AM // 01:37

Post the BSoD error, complete with STOP code and if there is an offending file, I'll need that too.

Also, do <font color="#FF0000">NOT</font> use CCleaner, because CCleaner foolishly cleans out the dump files. I can use that to analyze the issue.

In addition, you can read the STOP code easier by right clicking My Computer > Properties and then going to the Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery, Settings... In there, uncheck Automatically Restart.

Bob Slydell · Jul 07, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Hey guys, I have been a bit lazy lately BUT, the entire time I have been arguing with this thing still. The random BSOD's kept commin, then it got so bad games wouldnt even start, firefox would cause a system crash with many tabs open, itunes would cause a system crash also. The biggest thing I thought this was from which made me drop the idea of bad ram was the graphics card. Every time it crashed and fixed itself rather than fully crash, ATI would pop a window up about VPU recovery and how it just reset my graphics card. I reinstalled drivers a few times, that didn't help. Reinstalled Windows XP too, didn't help either. Then what do you know, a swap back to my old ram fixes it like it never happened.