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Old Jan 11, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31   #1
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i have had it with ncsoft... they arent helping at all so im turning to fellow players to help my Guildwars frames problem.....

Im running 3-7 fps with the lowest visual settings....

heres my hardware....
Windows Xp Home edition
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor 3300+
Hard drive space: 118 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
RAM: 1.37 GB

i have green ping.... and im having terrible framrate....if i hav it on the highest settings it runs the same as with the lowest setting (3-7 fps)

i have "-noshader -dx8" on and i did the "-image" thing and nothing happened
the people at ncsoft blame a incorrect download of windows... but i had my local tech man come and redo even tho he said that he had done it properly wen he last looked at my comp.

i have no where to go so PLEASE HELP
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Old Jan 11, 2010, 10:49 PM // 22:49   #2
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I know nothing about nVidia cards, if it was an ATi card I could tell you. But from googling..it seems the 8400GS is around the Radeon HD 2400.

Incorrect download of Windows being at fault is quite Lulzy..that has nothing to do with it.


Do you have any information on your Power Supply? Sometimes, when you put too much load on a low-wattage powersupply and have a power consuming graphics card (again I'm only assuming, I know nothing about nVidia) thrown into the mix, these sorta things tend to happen. The card might not be getting enough power to work correctly.

Also, is the 8400 GS Integrated, PCI-e or AGP? Not sure how Integrated nVidia GPU's perform, my Radeon x1600 is integrated and performs very well with GW, but yours is an nVidia, different brand.
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Old Jan 11, 2010, 11:08 PM // 23:08   #3
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i have had it with ncsoft... they arent helping at all so im turning to fellow players to help my Guildwars frames problem.....

Im running 3-7 fps with the lowest visual settings....

heres my hardware....
Windows Xp Home edition
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 processor 3300+
Hard drive space: 118 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS
RAM: 1.37 GB

i have green ping.... and im having terrible framrate....if i hav it on the highest settings it runs the same as with the lowest setting (3-7 fps)

i have "-noshader -dx8" on and i did the "-image" thing and nothing happened
the people at ncsoft blame a incorrect download of windows... but i had my local tech man come and redo even tho he said that he had done it properly wen he last looked at my comp.

i have no where to go so PLEASE HELP

I had a problem before the new year with my FPS in Modern Warfare 2, as well as other games on my computer. I did everything I thought of (from updating video card drivers to downloading special software that is supposed to [but did not] diagnose my problem).

One question you need to answer before reading the rest of this post, is have you played Guild Wars without this problem prior to now?

Another question you need to answer before reading the rest of this post, is does your computer meet the requirements necessary to play this game?
List of System Requirements (Wiki)
(It looks as if your computer does meet the requirements to play this game; but lack of system specs is sometimes an issue).

My issue was a slight bit of overheating, though your issue may be different. There was just a little bit of dust in my heatsink that sat on top of my processor. A little bit, yes - but enough to cause a problem. I got that cleaned out and it worked like new. (Opened up my tower, dusted it out nicely, used a tool to clean the little teeth of the heatsinks and other tight places).

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Sometimes, when you put too much load on a low-wattage powersupply and have a power consuming graphics card (again I'm only assuming, I know nothing about nVidia) thrown into the mix, these sorta things tend to happen. The card might not be getting enough power to work correctly.
This could also be one of the issues you are experiencing.

A related issue regarding FPS drop
[It may be Vista, but the priority setting is the same for XP; try this out to see if this is your issue].

I would suggest downloading "Ccleaner" as well as cleaning your computer out of any dust that may be in it. ["Ccleaner" cleans out your registry of errors, and other junk such as corrupt temp. files and the likes]. I would also suggest running a disk defrag, just to ensure that nothing is where it should not be - as well as a malware/virus scan. [I use Ad-Aware and Avira; freeware that actually works].

Hopefully this helps; normally over-heating is the cause of many computer issues, but there could be so many causes in this case. Write back on what happens after.

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Old Jan 11, 2010, 11:50 PM // 23:50   #4
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Also, is the 8400 GS Integrated, PCI-e or AGP? Not sure how Integrated nVidia GPU's perform, my Radeon x1600 is integrated and performs very well with GW, but yours is an nVidia, different brand.
its pci... kinda looks like this on the bottom.... ||||||| ||||||||||| |||||||
looks liek 3 sections but one is farther from the others... it was the most recent nvidia card to have an inpu tthat fits my motherboard

and what makes me puzzled is the fact that i run other games such as Counterstrike:source EXTREAMLY well... it was a dramatic change from my old graphics card.... and i dont think its a power problem because of that...
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 01:24 AM // 01:24   #5
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Update drivers? <_<
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 01:29 AM // 01:29   #6
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PCI? that would be your issue right there. PCI has a restrictively small bandwidth that will choke the life out of any modern graphic card. strangely enough, the new PCI cards like the 8400 GS are actually SLOWER in GW than the older ones, like the 6200 LE.

does your computer have an AGP slot? you are better off finding an older AGP card like the radeon 9800PRO. AGP has much better bandwidth and should give you better performance.
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 01:40 AM // 01:40   #7
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PCI? that would be your issue right there. PCI has a restrictively small bandwidth that will choke the life out of any modern graphic card. strangely enough, the new PCI cards like the 8400 GS are actually SLOWER in GW than the older ones, like the 6200 LE.

does your computer have an AGP slot? you are better off finding an older AGP card like the radeon 9800PRO. AGP has much better bandwidth and should give you better performance.
Better Yet, I think ATi stopped making AGP cards after the HD 4600 or around that, OP could probably pick up one of those for cheap for the AGP slot and do really well with GW, assuming he had enough PSU wattage.
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 01:56 AM // 01:56   #8
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so ur saying downgrade my video card -_-... it makes everything else OTHER than GW run better.... it made CODMW2 run... before it said my video card wasnt good enough... and now it runs
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 02:04 AM // 02:04   #9
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so ur saying downgrade my video card -_-... it makes everything else OTHER than GW run better.... it made CODMW2 run... before it said my video card wasnt good enough... and now it runs
Get a Radeon HD series card, they make AGP for HD all the way up until 4600 series.

And no, the Radeon 9800 Pro was a true PRO!
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 02:08 AM // 02:08   #10
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Oh dear God.... Yes... PCI is unbelievably ancient! I remember before I became a hardcore computer ethusiast I had a PC that only had PCI. Boy oh boy did I facepalm when I finally upgraded to AGP (and furthermore down the line to PCI-E) and seen how much I was missing out (hence I started to become facinated with PCs).


Let's just say that going from PCI to AGP was like putting NoS on a scooter. xD It's THAT much of a difference.
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 03:34 AM // 03:34   #11
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You got anything running in thebackground? how long has it been happing for? what did u resently install? are your drivers up to date(NOT WHAT WINDOWS SAYS) is ur cpu dual or the single core 64 bit amd cpu? and is your card over heating at all? how old is the card?
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Old Jan 12, 2010, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #12
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You got anything running in thebackground? how long has it been happing for? what did u resently install? are your drivers up to date(NOT WHAT WINDOWS SAYS) is ur cpu dual or the single core 64 bit amd cpu? and is your card over heating at all? how old is the card?
uh since i reinstalled like 3 months ago... and i do hav the rite drivers because i went to nvidia.com...... and its the only program running... using 75% of the cpu........
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Old Jan 13, 2010, 03:57 AM // 03:57   #13
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yes but the msot current updated drivers with win 7 computer companies have had more updates for comatiablity or other issues it's alwasy best to dl and reinstall the msot current updateed version of the drivers and well worth trying even if u have them al ready sometimes they mess up seen it happen. and the cards not over heating is it?
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Old Jan 13, 2010, 06:32 AM // 06:32   #14
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no its not over heating.... if it was then other games would have the same prob
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