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TimBob12 · Apr 18, 2011, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Hi there,

I bought guild wars the other day but it lags really badly. My ping averages out at around 200ms and usually gets the little green dot. My FPS however rarely raises above 10.

I have tried disabling all graphics, lowest resolution, no AA etc.
I have tried disabling all services and exiting all running programs.
I have tried using the "-image" parameter.
I have tried allocating more Virtual memory on the hard drive.
I have tried defragging and cleaning my system.
I have tried using the "-noshaders" and "-dx8" parameters.

I have no idea why this happens. Its really bugging me.

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3
BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A03
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 2038MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS - 512mb

This is really bugging me as I can run COD4 online on extra graphics and have no issues.

Thanks for any help in advance.

Let me know if you want any more specs

TB12

OutlawFMA · Apr 18, 2011, 09:30 AM // 09:30

For the ping, you are not going to get much lower than 200 while in an outpost, while in an instance(outside of outpost), however you can get it lower than 200. FPS and Ping are most of the time are going to be better when you are not in an outpost, unless then outpost is pretty much empty.

TimBob12 · Apr 18, 2011, 09:33 AM // 09:33

But my ping is fine. Its just the FPS that is the problem, and it is the same everywhere.

kedde · Apr 18, 2011, 09:37 AM // 09:37

Do you have really outdated drivers?

TimBob12 · Apr 18, 2011, 09:48 AM // 09:48

No, I spoke to the support team and that was one of the things that they told me to do. I have the latest drivers for my video card.

Also just tried port fowarding with no results.

OutlawFMA · Apr 18, 2011, 10:55 AM // 10:55

You just said that your ping is fine even though in your topic you say its not. Which is it.

TimBob12 · Apr 18, 2011, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Where in my topic did I say its not.

I put that its 200ms and the little green dot which is good.

Artisan Archer · Apr 18, 2011, 11:55 AM // 11:55

Are you playing in windowed mode? Sometimes windows gives guild wars low processor priority when ran in windowed mode, causing low fps.

Quaker · Apr 18, 2011, 02:26 PM // 14:26

Firstly, your system may not be a dinosaur, but it's close. You can't expect a whole lot of performance from a P4 with an 8400GS.

That said, it wouldn't take a whole lot to make it even worse. So, here's a few things that come to mind:

1. Clean the dust out of the machine. It may be simply overheating and throttling back.
2. While you have it opened (to clean it), make sure that all fans - particularly the CPU and GPU (video card) - are operating correctly.
3. Make sure that the OS is properly recognizing the CPU. As the computer starts up, check that the screen actually says "Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz". Sometimes, noise spikes on the power line (from lightning etc.) or rogue apps, can screw up the BIOS settings.
4. Reset the BIOS/Setup. Check the manual for the computer or motherboard to see where the BIOS/setup jumper is and follow the procedure. Or, remove the small "coin" battery from the motherboard for a few minutes (to allow the circuits to discharge) and then re-install it.

Of course, you didn't say that the machine ever played GW at better than 10fps, so maybe it's just that your machine can't play GW any better than that. In spite of how it may appear, GW is apt to require more CPU/GPU power than CoD. A better video card would certainly help.

Elder III · Apr 18, 2011, 02:52 PM // 14:52

Everything Quaker said... also what resolution are you playing Guild Wars at?

Vallen · Apr 18, 2011, 02:52 PM // 14:52

To my knowledge (which isn't extensive) ping is your connection and your computer specs are irrelevant to it. You could be running on a 50mb fibre optic connection and have 5 ping with an outdated computer and still lag.

Although your computer specs aren't up to a whole lot, they should be capable of running GW with a much higher FPS than your getting.

Not sure what else to suggest that you either haven't already tried or hasn't already suggested other than what I would consider to probably be the problem. Scan for spyware ASAP

enter_the_zone · Apr 18, 2011, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Hmm, have you tried using the image command to make sure you've entirely downloaded all the data files locally. I found I was lagging horribly for absolute ages every time I installed GW on a new PC, until I did that.

TimBob12 · Apr 18, 2011, 04:44 PM // 16:44

I am not playing in windowed mode.

I have reduced the resolution to 800x600 and its the same.

The first post says that I have alreaqdy used the image command.

Tried cleaning out my computer resetting bios etc. No luck.

I just don't get it. My specs are better than the reccommended on the box.

Elder III · Apr 18, 2011, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Post your system temperatures, while idle, while playing GW, while playing some other graphics intensive game. It could be overheating.

Benderama · Apr 18, 2011, 08:04 PM // 20:04

is 800x600 the optimal resolution? i know lower resolutions are meant to make things faster, but i've always thought the optimal resolution, was y'know optimal for the system.
(sorry about the problem btw, even my old 256mb ram pc could get up to 20fps sometimes)

you checked for any common problems with your most recent drivers for your graphics card? not very likely but still hear some horror stories about certain graphics cards screwing up D:

Kojima · Apr 19, 2011, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quaker

Firstly, your system may not be a dinosaur, but it's close. You can't expect a whole lot of performance from a P4 with an 8400GS.

That said, it wouldn't take a whole lot to make it even worse. So, here's a few things that come to mind:

1. Clean the dust out of the machine. It may be simply overheating and throttling back.
2. While you have it opened (to clean it), make sure that all fans - particularly the CPU and GPU (video card) - are operating correctly.
3. Make sure that the OS is properly recognizing the CPU. As the computer starts up, check that the screen actually says "Pentium 4 3.00 Ghz". Sometimes, noise spikes on the power line (from lightning etc.) or rogue apps, can screw up the BIOS settings.
4. Reset the BIOS/Setup. Check the manual for the computer or motherboard to see where the BIOS/setup jumper is and follow the procedure. Or, remove the small "coin" battery from the motherboard for a few minutes (to allow the circuits to discharge) and then re-install it.

Of course, you didn't say that the machine ever played GW at better than 10fps, so maybe it's just that your machine can't play GW any better than that. In spite of how it may appear, GW is apt to require more CPU/GPU power than CoD. A better video card would certainly help.

Everything Q said here plus one more thing: If it is indeed your system a
nd not your connection, you can try downloading 3D-Analyze which may help with older computers to run games. Of course I am not sure if this will work for you or not. To learn to use it, search for tutorial vids on it in youtube.

Chthon · Apr 19, 2011, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vallen

To my knowledge (which isn't extensive) ping is your connection and your computer specs are irrelevant to it. You could be running on a 50mb fibre optic connection and have 5 ping with an outdated computer and still [have bad FPS]

Correct. FPS and ping have nothing to do with each other.

pinkeyflower · Apr 19, 2011, 04:18 AM // 04:18

Do you have VSync on? If you disable it you can get higher framerates but you may get some tearing.

davehall · Apr 19, 2011, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBob12

I am not playing in windowed mode.

I have reduced the resolution to 800x600 and its the same.

The first post says that I have alreaqdy used the image command.

Tried cleaning out my computer resetting bios etc. No luck.

I just don't get it. My specs are better than the reccommended on the box.

Problem could actually be a sound card driver issue and/or certain graphic related settings, either in the BIOS and/or graphic driver.

Over the years I have upgraded my main rig and have experienced multiple of issues in getting GW to run (All the while most of my other games would work fine, e.g. half-Life 2), such things as incompatible motherboard chipset w/sound card or video card, wrong HT settings in the BIOS, IRQ sharing between sound card and USB device, etc.

However, in this case your problem sounds similar to one what I had about two years ago. Try running the game with the -nosound command line switch and see if FPS improves greatly. If so then your problem is likely related to your sound card hardware and/or drivers. In my case, I had to disable all hardware sound acceleration options (in the game) and use software only.

Spiritz · Apr 19, 2011, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Another shot in the dark here - i know ms have stopped support for xp and it may be possible that other graffix card makers have also stopped actual xp support and releasing vista/win 7 drivers only.So what may be "up to date " drivers for xp are not actually current drivers but older - if you follow.
I was using xp upto 2 months ago where i switched to vista and i used a nvidea 8500gt with no probs at all and even now in win7 it works fine - along with vista/win7 current drivers.