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Yoroic Gavax · Nov 16, 2011, 02:54 AM // 02:54

I am getting a new computer because the one I have is no longer able to do much of anything, and I was wondering if "NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE" graphics card will run guild wars with good quality or at all. I've ask on Yahoo anwers but everyone who answered only did so about GW2 not GW. Thank you for your time.

Showtime · Nov 16, 2011, 03:32 AM // 03:32

Your monitors resolution? GPU and ram? I'm assuming it's an old entry level card. It might be able run GW, but you will probably have to turn the eye candy off and wont be able to 1080+ it for games.

If the rest of your system is up to speed... 2ghz dual core or faster/ 2+ gigs ram, you might want to look for a deal on a better card. Try slickdeals or fatwallet and check their forums.

List of cards... I believe yours is 4th tier up and might be enough with a decent cpu/ram at low rez/no eye candy.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...on,2761-7.html

gremlin · Nov 16, 2011, 08:17 AM // 08:17

I didn't see your specific card there maybe I need more coffee to wake me up.
Do you know how much memory is on the card and whether it uses system memory.
A decent sized on board memory 500 meg 1 gig etc makes a real difference compared to one that is using your computer ram.

If your card is at the same level of any of the three I used you should get similar results I guess.

I successfully played Guild wars on an amd1800 processor 1 gig or memory and a 128 meg Nvidia Ti4800se.
That way lower spec than your system and it was playable at around 30 frames on a 15 inch crt monitor.

Moved to my current quad core and an nvidia 8600gt 256 memory and things got considerably better that's still a low level card but I could max out Guild wars on my 17 inch monitor though I did tweak the display settings to get a little boost in speed.

Card burned out after 4 years so currently using a Nvidia GT220 1 gig card that happily runs Guild wars on maximum setting on a 22 inch monitor.
At 1920x1080
That card set me back around £60 last year.

rb.widow · Nov 16, 2011, 11:59 AM // 11:59

The NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE was released around 2004-2005, but it built as onboard GFX, im guessing its going to struggle with GW to be honest, i cannot find any reference to this being an actual card you can buy, it only seems to be made for the older motherboards, so if this is a new system its running old hardware, which is fine if it does what you need it do to, but it will struggle with most games, espically anything in the last 3 years id say.

Im curious if this is a new system are you getting it from someone else, because id be surprised it a new system had such old hardware in it.

Quaker · Nov 16, 2011, 02:41 PM // 14:41

The 6150SE is indeed, integrated graphics. It struggles to get out of it's own way.

If you're looking at a "new" system, and it has those graphics, it's basically an "old" system. I don't think any newly designed systems use those graphics any more - I don't think nVidia even makes chipsets these days.

If you are looking for a low-priced system that will play GW1 (and maybe GW2) you should look for one using the new AMD Llano A6 or A8 APU.

Yoroic Gavax · Nov 18, 2011, 01:33 AM // 01:33

This is the computers details:

eMachines Black EL1358G-51w Desktop PC with AMD Athlon II X2 Dual-Core 220 Processor, 1TB Hard Drive and Windows 7 Home Premium

•AMD Athlon II X2 Dual-Core 220 processor
2.8GHz, 1MB Cache

•3GB DDR3 SDRAM system memory (expandable to 4GB)
Gives you the comfort for multimedia videos and images, video conferencing, basic gaming and all the other simple duties

•1TB SATA hard drive
Store 666,000 photos, 285,000 songs or 526 hours of HD video and more

•16x SuperMulti DVD Burner
Watch movies, and read and write CDs and DVDs in multiple formats

•10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet
Connect to a broadband modem or wired broadband router with wired Ethernet

•Integrated NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE Graphics

rb.widow · Nov 18, 2011, 12:40 PM // 12:40

Wow, i did a google search, and right enough they are putting these GFX into new machines, i wonder does eMachines have a contract with walmart as it only seems to be them selling it.

Either way, it is going to struggle to play GW, and i highly doubt it will do GW2, from looking at the specs on the walmart site, it looks more designed for basic home use, email, basic browsing etc, its not designed for gaming at all.

Graphics Controller
Type: Integrated
Graphics Processor / Vendor: NVIDIA GeForce 6150 SE

Quaker · Nov 18, 2011, 02:49 PM // 14:49

That's certainly an oddball machine. Most newer AMD based computers use some form of AMD graphics. It's definitely a low-end machine, performance-wise. It would struggle to play GW2. It has a good balance of CPU to GPU power - they are both bottom end. It probably has about the same performance as a C-50/60 Llano based system.
It may not have a PCIe slot for a discrete graphics card, and most likely has a low-wattage power supply - so, upgrade options would be very limited.

Basically, if you are looking for a budget system to play games, I'd say you are best off to look for something using the new A4/A6/A8 APUs from AMD. They would have the best balance of CPU and GPU power.
It's possible, of course, to get somewhat the same balance using other configurations, but you'd have to assess them individually.

And definitely, since you want to game, make sure any system you get has a PCIe x16 slot so you can upgrade the graphics, if you want to at some time.

Showtime · Nov 18, 2011, 04:31 PM // 16:31

If you bought this, you only need maybe need to upgrade your video card to play gw1. Try it out, might be ok with nvidia onboard since people played gw1 on their laptops with similar video. I was running single core athlon with 9700 video when GW 1st came out and it ran fine @ 1680x1050. What rez if your monitor. Just lower it in game settings if it hangs or slows too much.

If you want to play gw2, you will probably have to get a decent card and turn down all the video settings.

If you didn't buy a computer yet. How much are they asking for it? Does it come with a monitor. Go to slickdeals or fatwallet. Check the "hot deals" forums. You can usually find a decent desktop package from dell for under $600. That's with the monitor. HP has been having deals and so has other companies. Unless that emachine computer is like $250 or less, you may want to research and buy something better. So if you can wait, check those forums daily. You will get more for your buck. Sometimes they have $2-300 computers that you just need to add a video card and maybe some ram.

A little research and patience will save you money and get you a better computer. Never go to bestbuy etc and pay full price on computers or laptops.

Yoroic Gavax · Nov 19, 2011, 05:44 PM // 17:44

I'm not planing on guild wars 2 i just needed to know if it would run the original 3 campaignes

Showtime · Nov 19, 2011, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Should run it

zagerus · Nov 21, 2011, 01:26 PM // 13:26

Yeah Like the above posts it'll run the game, I played on that same chip for 2 years Just don't expect to run on max settings Lol. On mine 1280x1024 on medium settings got like 20-25 FPS in most places.

And just so you know those things are an incredible pain to upgrade because of the form factors eMachine uses for their parts, Just like Dell, they aren't usually standard so like if you want to upgrade the video card in that one you'll more than likely have to buy a low profile one.

Yoroic Gavax · Nov 22, 2011, 12:50 AM // 00:50

I bought the computer it runs fast on low settings okay on medium and okay on high, Thank you all for your help.