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THX · Mar 01, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39

There has been a sudden increase in spam and it is rather depressing to witness. Hence, from this point on those caught writing posts with no true purpose beyond getting their post count up will be given a warning, after five warnings the person in question will be banned. Warnings will be directed by PM. We want the forum to be a great place for people to discuss and educate themselves, this is not possible if every second poster makes no effort in progressing the discussion. These new strict regulations are being implemented to benefit the intellectual integrity of the community.

Examples of spam posts: ???Yeah me too, lol???, ???That???s what I wanted to say??????, ???What the guy above said??????, etc.

If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to PM me, I'd be glad to help.

Furthermore, the Q&A forum features slightly tighter rules:

Thread title must be on topic. "help plz" or "Im a nooob!" will be locked on sight
No excessive puncutation or attempts at attracting attention. ?!?!?!?!? or !!!!! and related are not allowed.
Don't double post to bump your thread. Bumped threads will be locked or deleted.
Our english rules still apply very much so here.
If your topic is not Q&A, it will be locked

Brett Kuntz · Mar 01, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42

That???s what I wanted to say???

Deadroot · Mar 01, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20

Are you able to disable post counts from appearing under your avatar? That might be a way to discourage post pumping.

Kiwi · Mar 01, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24

Oh god I hope I haven't violated anything...

Devil's Dictionary · Mar 01, 2005, 04:31 AM // 04:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadroot

Are you able to disable post counts from appearing under your avatar? That might be a way to discourage post pumping.

That is an excellent idea, Deadroot. I hope the moderating team takes it into consideration. This count means nothing and might even create prejudice. What's important is now how many posts the person has but the quality of the posts themselves (I of all should not speak about that

). If I am not mistaken, I did once see those counters disabled on one forum and it did marvels. Of course that might be one of the more radical means; if this warning fails.

Whosa Skylore · Mar 01, 2005, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by DEATH AT THE DOOR

. This count means nothing and might even create prejudice. What's important is now how many posts the person has but the quality of the posts themselves.

lol one of my guildmates said the exact same thing befor, but I like the idea of taking away the posts and if worst comes to worst take away the things under your names

lol

Cicciro · Mar 01, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Sounds fine to me, but I'd rather see the chopping block come down on idiocy over spam; however, they are often twins.

LeakingBlood · Mar 01, 2005, 04:50 AM // 04:50

A difference will only be felt and made when useless posts are deleted. I think it would be too much of a hassle to remove one post count from "every second poster". The loss of one post count isn't as noticable.

Tur713 · Mar 01, 2005, 04:54 AM // 04:54

I must admit, as much as like to see my little number go up, I try to at least make my comments worth while. I'm all for this policy.

Cicciro · Mar 01, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56

I don't think you have a choice to be for or against it, and while you may have your opinion towards it on the inside, no matter which side you take, this is going into play. Welcome to the New Guru Order, a place that decides if you are worth your while or worthless. I enjoy that about this place.

Kiwi · Mar 01, 2005, 05:04 AM // 05:04

There's no point in spamming anyways. What does anyone get from it?

Ensign · Mar 01, 2005, 05:18 AM // 05:18

People get postcounts from posting lots and lots of retarded stuff. Somehow this makes people feel important or something, because there seem to be a lot of people who care about their postcount for some reason or another.

I would like to second Cicciro's motion to crack down on rampant idiocy on this site. There are plenty of other forums for that - we don't need to be yet another. Those of you who are part of the problem certainly aren't aware of it, but everyone else does - hopefully our moderation staff will be messaging you to let you know that your utterly vapid comments are not appreciated.

Peace,
-CxE

Nova · Mar 01, 2005, 05:28 AM // 05:28

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Originally Posted by THX

[size=2]There has been a sudden increase in spam and it is rather depressing to witness. Hence, from this point on those caught writing posts with no true purpose beyond getting their post count up will be given a warning, after five warnings the person in question will be banned. Warnings will be directed by PM. We want the forum to be a great place for people to discuss and educate themselves, this is not possible if every second poster makes no effort in progressing the discussion. These new strict regulations are being implemented to benefit the intellectual integrity of the community.[/size]

[size=2]Examples of spam posts: ???Yeah me too, lol???, ???That???s what I wanted to say??????, ???What the guy above said??????, etc.[/size]

[size=2]If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to PM me, I'd be glad to help.[/size]
[size=1][/size]

ON my clan forum for games on Battle.Net, we call that "post whoring"

Like where there really isnt a point. You just want posts. But its not always on purpose. WHich is where the warning s come in right? Thanks for being like that. An understanding person. While also eliminating the post RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs.

And Kiwi, if you viloated it you would have been PMed a warning.

TheRealDecoy · Mar 01, 2005, 08:47 AM // 08:47

It's a noble goal, but something about it doesn't seem right. I'm sure that the Guru mod team will do a great job of determining who is spamming and who isn't, but I think it's inevitable that someone is going to get punished when they don't deserve to be. As for cracking down on forum idiocy, no offense intended, we all can't be Cicciros or Ensigns. Sometimes smart people just need to deal with others who aren't as smart.

cpukilla · Mar 01, 2005, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Cracking down on spam and idiocy is great ... just be careful not to alienate new members or new players who don't know any better; I'd rather educate them and bring them up to speed than have them leave instead. Theres also a fine line between different ideas and idiocy. Remember fallout on guild-hall? Do his posts deserve to be removed or are they valid discussion?

Ensign · Mar 01, 2005, 01:18 PM // 13:18

Fallout wasn't an idiot - he was a troll. People who are just clueless can learn and become a useful part of the community. Trolls just want to cause trouble.

I don't want us to start banning people for being stupid here, but a (not so) friendly suggestion to some people that they lurk more than post might not be entirely uncalled for.

Peace,
-CxE

Inde · Mar 01, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40

We do have our Q&A forum for those needing some guidance.

In terms of post count etc - I have always found that a join date has always been a better metric of poster intelligence then the number of times they have been able to post a message.

Avatin · Mar 01, 2005, 03:09 PM // 15:09

Stupid people with idiots thoughts are part of this world (take this message as a proof of this if you want

) and what about tolerance?

Is it a nerd-only dedicated forum?

Personnaly I don't think the post counter is a valuable information for members. So I'd say you admin should think to keep it 'for your eyes only'.

(fear this is too much sincerity and I will get a warning

)

FrogDevourer · Mar 01, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign

I don't want us to start banning people for being stupid here, but a (not so) friendly suggestion to some people that they lurk more than post might not be entirely uncalled for.

If a stupid post can get an insightful reply, then it's not entirely useless (if only for the original poster). But if being wrong or naive in this forum is not welcome (this is a guru site after all), many of us will just go back to our natural tendency: to stay in lurker mode. I won't hold any grudge against such a policy, just be clear on this matter.

THX · Mar 01, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04

We are not trying to alienate forum members, we are merely attempting to keep the discussions clean and educative. A "dumb" question is educative, a dumb response is not.

Mar 01, 2005, 03:39 AM // 03:39	#1
THX Before all else, be armed. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada	ANNOUNCEMENT: A must read! There has been a sudden increase in spam and it is rather depressing to witness. Hence, from this point on those caught writing posts with no true purpose beyond getting their post count up will be given a warning, after five warnings the person in question will be banned. Warnings will be directed by PM. We want the forum to be a great place for people to discuss and educate themselves, this is not possible if every second poster makes no effort in progressing the discussion. These new strict regulations are being implemented to benefit the intellectual integrity of the community. Examples of spam posts: ???Yeah me too, lol???, ???That???s what I wanted to say??????, ???What the guy above said??????, etc. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to PM me, I'd be glad to help. Furthermore, the Q&A forum features slightly tighter rules: Thread title must be on topic. "help plz" or "Im a nooob!" will be locked on sight No excessive puncutation or attempts at attracting attention. ?!?!?!?!? or !!!!! and related are not allowed. Don't double post to bump your thread. Bumped threads will be locked or deleted. Our english rules still apply very much so here. If your topic is not Q&A, it will be locked Last edited by THX; Mar 17, 2005 at 03:53 AM // 03:53..

Mar 01, 2005, 04:54 AM // 04:54	#9
Tur713 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: Pink Animal Clan Profession: E/Me	Good Idea I must admit, as much as like to see my little number go up, I try to at least make my comments worth while. I'm all for this policy.

Mar 01, 2005, 05:18 AM // 05:18	#12
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	People get postcounts from posting lots and lots of retarded stuff. Somehow this makes people feel important or something, because there seem to be a lot of people who care about their postcount for some reason or another. I would like to second Cicciro's motion to crack down on rampant idiocy on this site. There are plenty of other forums for that - we don't need to be yet another. Those of you who are part of the problem certainly aren't aware of it, but everyone else does - hopefully our moderation staff will be messaging you to let you know that your utterly vapid comments are not appreciated. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Mar 01, 2005, 08:47 AM // 08:47	#14
TheRealDecoy Academy Page Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Bay Area, CA Guild: The Cornerstone Profession: Mo/Me	It's a noble goal, but something about it doesn't seem right. I'm sure that the Guru mod team will do a great job of determining who is spamming and who isn't, but I think it's inevitable that someone is going to get punished when they don't deserve to be. As for cracking down on forum idiocy, no offense intended, we all can't be Cicciros or Ensigns. Sometimes smart people just need to deal with others who aren't as smart. Last edited by TheRealDecoy; Mar 01, 2005 at 08:50 AM // 08:50..

Mar 01, 2005, 01:18 PM // 13:18	#16
Ensign Just Plain Fluffy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Berkeley, CA Guild: Idiot Savants	Fallout wasn't an idiot - he was a troll. People who are just clueless can learn and become a useful part of the community. Trolls just want to cause trouble. I don't want us to start banning people for being stupid here, but a (not so) friendly suggestion to some people that they lurk more than post might not be entirely uncalled for. Peace, -CxE __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience.

Mar 01, 2005, 03:42 AM // 03:42	#2
Brett Kuntz Core Guru Join Date: Feb 2005	That???s what I wanted to say???

Mar 01, 2005, 04:20 AM // 04:20	#3
Deadroot Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2005 Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: N/R	Are you able to disable post counts from appearing under your avatar? That might be a way to discourage post pumping.

Mar 01, 2005, 04:24 AM // 04:24	#4
Kiwi Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Holy Land of Kiwis!	Oh god I hope I haven't violated anything...

Mar 01, 2005, 04:39 AM // 04:39	#7
Cicciro Banned Join Date: Feb 2005	Sounds fine to me, but I'd rather see the chopping block come down on idiocy over spam; however, they are often twins.

Mar 01, 2005, 04:50 AM // 04:50	#8
LeakingBlood Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Canada, Toronto	A difference will only be felt and made when useless posts are deleted. I think it would be too much of a hassle to remove one post count from "every second poster". The loss of one post count isn't as noticable.

Mar 01, 2005, 04:56 AM // 04:56	#10
Cicciro Banned Join Date: Feb 2005	I don't think you have a choice to be for or against it, and while you may have your opinion towards it on the inside, no matter which side you take, this is going into play. Welcome to the New Guru Order, a place that decides if you are worth your while or worthless. I enjoy that about this place.

Mar 01, 2005, 05:04 AM // 05:04	#11
Kiwi Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Holy Land of Kiwis!	There's no point in spamming anyways. What does anyone get from it?

Mar 01, 2005, 01:13 PM // 13:13	#15
cpukilla Banned Join Date: Feb 2005	Cracking down on spam and idiocy is great ... just be careful not to alienate new members or new players who don't know any better; I'd rather educate them and bring them up to speed than have them leave instead. Theres also a fine line between different ideas and idiocy. Remember fallout on guild-hall? Do his posts deserve to be removed or are they valid discussion?

Mar 01, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40	#17
Inde Site Contributor Join Date: Dec 2004	We do have our Q&A forum for those needing some guidance. In terms of post count etc - I have always found that a join date has always been a better metric of poster intelligence then the number of times they have been able to post a message.

Mar 01, 2005, 03:09 PM // 15:09	#18
Avatin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Qu??bec, Canada	Stupid people with idiots thoughts are part of this world (take this message as a proof of this if you want ) and what about tolerance? Is it a nerd-only dedicated forum? Personnaly I don't think the post counter is a valuable information for members. So I'd say you admin should think to keep it 'for your eyes only'. (fear this is too much sincerity and I will get a warning )

Mar 01, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#20
THX Before all else, be armed. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada	We are not trying to alienate forum members, we are merely attempting to keep the discussions clean and educative. A "dumb" question is educative, a dumb response is not.