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Charr Killer · Nov 14, 2005, 01:00 AM // 01:00

what do people do for money now, with the update that stops farming in its tracks

i know that running might be easier because enemies will stop chasing now
after a while of chasing so droks runs will probably be the best place to get money but the price of runs will drop IMHO

if you have a place that you still farm like trolls or sumthing like that becuz they run slower

Network · Nov 14, 2005, 01:14 AM // 01:14

Snow Ettins.

chippxero · Nov 14, 2005, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Farming hasn't been stopped at all, it's just a bit harder till people work out better builds for the new system then it will go back to how it was before.

Former Ruling · Nov 14, 2005, 11:49 AM // 11:49

Some monks love the update for farming (depending on the area).

As long as their scattering after every hit of Aura...Their not hitting you...And if their not hitting you - who cares if it takes alittle longer to kill them.

Sir Edri · Nov 14, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Farming hasn't been stopped...It's just more challenging now, and of course takes longer. My guildmate and I still do 2 man UW runs. We had to tweak our skills a little. It takes a bit longer now, but still doable.

Troll farming is old and rarely drops anything good. Unless you want to fill your inventory with Forest Minotaur horns and Raven staff, then by all means.

Weazzol · Nov 14, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41

I don't think it has become more challenging, I think its become easier since it's slower (the only down of it) it is easier to stay alive and gives more room for error rather than the strict timing you needed to do the crazy farming of old. But some areas really don't take too much longer.

Xa Panda · Nov 14, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49

I also still do 2 man smite runs in UW just a little harder

Athis Strider · Nov 14, 2005, 08:10 PM // 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Some monks love the update for farming (depending on the area).

As long as their scattering after every hit of Aura...Their not hitting you...And if their not hitting you - who cares if it takes alittle longer to kill them.

Who cares if it take longer? Everyone cares. Time is money. Farmers will charge higher prices and drive the economy into inflation.
Scenerio Before; 10 Black dyes in a day (pretend)
Scenerio After ; 5 Black dyes in a day (play along)
Is this concept incorrect?

Frank The Tank · Nov 14, 2005, 08:23 PM // 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athis Strider

Who cares if it take longer? Everyone cares. Time is money. Farmers will charge higher prices and drive the economy into inflation.
Scenerio Before; 10 Black dyes in a day (pretend)
Scenerio After ; 5 Black dyes in a day (play along)
Is this concept incorrect?

Not too far off, if the supply is down and the demand is still there... prices should increase. Maybe not as severe with merchant type items, but anything else it may spike a bit more severe.

Jetdoc · Nov 14, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

The key is DEMAND. With the reduction of new players into the game, how much demand will there be, especially with all of the green weapons now available?

I would guess that the supply will start to decrease, but the demand will continue to decrease at a steady pace as well. You might see a short-term correction in prices (especially from the botters), but you won't see the inflation that we saw prior to the greens.

Itok · Nov 14, 2005, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athis Strider

Who cares if it take longer? Everyone cares. Time is money. Farmers will charge higher prices and drive the economy into inflation.
Scenerio Before; 10 Black dyes in a day (pretend)
Scenerio After ; 5 Black dyes in a day (play along)
Is this concept incorrect?

Yes, it is incorrect.

This isn't close to the definition of inflation. Inflation is the unwarrented and unbacked increase in prices based on factors that don't directly effect the supply and demand of an item. This also comes as the ability to purchase said goods is diminished. Neither is an accurate statement of the current overall economic situatiuon within the game. It is losely reflected in some items though (Flints Fleshcleaver, Flints Wand, etc).

Farmers don't dictate what prices are. The buyers do, don't fool yourself. Cuz, at the end of the day, if the shit ain't selling, its losing value. So, the price will drop to where it sells, to a certain extent. Availability can also effect price in a round about way.

However, prices of items WILL go up and down. As long as sellers base their prices for goods (dyes, materials, runes) on merchants, all is good. This will probably continue unabaited. The money supply, the regular players will contiue to demand that prices stay as low as is bareable to the sellers.

Weapons, mods and such will fluctuate as supply and demand ebb and flow with everything else. Zealous will continue to fall as ppl realize its not worth the hit. Sellers, however will continue to attempt to keep prices high for as long as they can. Like some buyers b eing insulted that most sellers are moving iron for 12-14g each. ROTFL!!!! If ya don't like that price, pay 19-20g per at the merchant, whinner!!!

Did that help clarify?

Athis Strider · Nov 14, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Inflation \in-'fla-shen\
An increase in the volume of money and credit relative to available goods and services resulting in a continuing rise in the general price level.
(Websters dictionary)

Itok
Your definition of inflation is incorrect.

PS. Ya I used the black dye as an example for anything that can sell in the game. We all know that since Anet fixed the merchant code Black dye on anything that merchs sell for that matter wont go sky high.

jciardha · Nov 14, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Considering I was farming with my W/Mo without AOEs or smites before (only heals), absolutely nothing has changed for me. I still farm, I still make about 2-4K per run, in about a half hour to an hour, sometimes in less time. This is with desert minos, rockshots, griffons, the trolls outside of Droknars, and for variety, the L10 minos outside Icetooth Cave (got a black and a silver dye off of one mob of them today).

I also prefer the smaller mobs, instead of aggroing the entire lot of griffons. Means I'm less likely to die.

So, if I can do it, why can't you?

Athis Strider · Nov 14, 2005, 11:48 PM // 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jciardha

Considering I was farming with my W/Mo without AOEs or smites before (only heals), absolutely nothing has changed for me. I still farm, I still make about 2-4K per run, in about a half hour to an hour, sometimes in less time. This is with desert minos, rockshots, griffons, the trolls outside of Droknars, and for variety, the L10 minos outside Icetooth Cave (got a black and a silver dye off of one mob of them today).

I also prefer the smaller mobs, instead of aggroing the entire lot of griffons. Means I'm less likely to die.

So, if I can do it, why can't you?

Im not a farmer. I am a Ranger. My only intrest is trying to get everyones opinion on the bigger picture of impact if any.

jciardha · Nov 14, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athis Strider

Im not a farmer. I am a Ranger. My only intrest is trying to get everyones opinion on the bigger picture of impact if any.

Ah. Well, I wasn't referring directly to you, but rather the OP, since he claims "farming has been stopped in its tracks."

A load of bullhockey, IMHO.

I think the only one of my characters who's been affected by a recent skill change is my mesmer. I can't solo farm Storm Kin outside of Seeker's Passage any more with the changes to Hex Breaker. And I was getting goooood drops off them. Ah well.

Nov 14, 2005, 01:00 AM // 01:00	#1
Charr Killer Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: In a box on a street corner Guild: Blazin Dragons [BD]	New source of money what do people do for money now, with the update that stops farming in its tracks i know that running might be easier because enemies will stop chasing now after a while of chasing so droks runs will probably be the best place to get money but the price of runs will drop IMHO if you have a place that you still farm like trolls or sumthing like that becuz they run slower

Nov 14, 2005, 11:42 PM // 23:42	#13
jciardha Krytan Explorer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: International Districts Guild: The Labyrinth of Night [LoN] Profession: Me/	Considering I was farming with my W/Mo without AOEs or smites before (only heals), absolutely nothing has changed for me. I still farm, I still make about 2-4K per run, in about a half hour to an hour, sometimes in less time. This is with desert minos, rockshots, griffons, the trolls outside of Droknars, and for variety, the L10 minos outside Icetooth Cave (got a black and a silver dye off of one mob of them today). I also prefer the smaller mobs, instead of aggroing the entire lot of griffons. Means I'm less likely to die. So, if I can do it, why can't you? Last edited by jciardha; Nov 14, 2005 at 11:47 PM // 23:47..

Nov 14, 2005, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#2
Network Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005	Snow Ettins.

Nov 14, 2005, 01:36 AM // 01:36	#3
chippxero Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: norfolk Guild: Super Anti Rabbit Squad [SARS] Profession: Mo/Me	Farming hasn't been stopped at all, it's just a bit harder till people work out better builds for the new system then it will go back to how it was before.

Nov 14, 2005, 11:49 AM // 11:49	#4
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Some monks love the update for farming (depending on the area). As long as their scattering after every hit of Aura...Their not hitting you...And if their not hitting you - who cares if it takes alittle longer to kill them.

Nov 14, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37	#5
Sir Edri Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2005 Location: McAllen, Texas Guild: Black Metal Clan Profession: W/Mo	Farming hasn't been stopped...It's just more challenging now, and of course takes longer. My guildmate and I still do 2 man UW runs. We had to tweak our skills a little. It takes a bit longer now, but still doable. Troll farming is old and rarely drops anything good. Unless you want to fill your inventory with Forest Minotaur horns and Raven staff, then by all means.

Nov 14, 2005, 05:41 PM // 17:41	#6
Weazzol Academy Page Join Date: May 2005	I don't think it has become more challenging, I think its become easier since it's slower (the only down of it) it is easier to stay alive and gives more room for error rather than the strict timing you needed to do the crazy farming of old. But some areas really don't take too much longer.

Nov 14, 2005, 05:49 PM // 17:49	#7
Xa Panda Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The Underground Guild: KR	I also still do 2 man smite runs in UW just a little harder

Nov 14, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56	#10
Jetdoc Hell's Protector Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: The Eyes of Texas [BEVO] Profession: D/A	The key is DEMAND. With the reduction of new players into the game, how much demand will there be, especially with all of the green weapons now available? I would guess that the supply will start to decrease, but the demand will continue to decrease at a steady pace as well. You might see a short-term correction in prices (especially from the botters), but you won't see the inflation that we saw prior to the greens.

Nov 14, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26	#12
Athis Strider Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Profession: R/Mo	Inflation \in-'fla-shen\ An increase in the volume of money and credit relative to available goods and services resulting in a continuing rise in the general price level. (Websters dictionary) Itok Your definition of inflation is incorrect. PS. Ya I used the black dye as an example for anything that can sell in the game. We all know that since Anet fixed the merchant code Black dye on anything that merchs sell for that matter wont go sky high.