Chance of salvaging an upgrade? - Guild Wars Forums

Vlad Juraquile · Feb 03, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35

Does any know the chances that you'll salvage an upgrade off of a weapon?

I've gotten three weapons with perfect upgrades (Axe Sundering, Sword Sundering, Sword Fortitude) while farming, but I've salvaged nothing but steel from all three weapons. Not only is this extremely frustrating to me, but it's also cost me approximately 150k (going from the average sell price of the upgrades at the time I failed to salvage them).

I know some of you may say, "But at least you unlocked them for PvP!" However, I don't have any PvP characters, so unlocking them is absolutely useless for me.

Swehurn · Feb 03, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37

I'm sure it's just my perspective on the matter, but I have a horrible success rate salvaging perfect upgrades. I have great success with "almost-perfect" mods, but am zero for about thirty for perfect mods that are actually worth something.

I'm sure it's perfectly random, though. 33% or so for a weapon with two mods, and maybe as high as 50% for a weapon with one mod.

EDIT: Good point, Matt. My failures have all been with an expert kit, but for Vlad - you weren't using a regular salvage kit, were you?

Vlad Juraquile · Feb 03, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Hm...I can salvage horrible upgrades with a 100% success rate, but when it comes to anything decent, I'm horrible. This is especially frustrating for me because I almost always have less than 15 platinum.

master_ranger_matt · Feb 03, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47

try using an expert or superior kit... that has never happened to anyone I know who used those kits

Vlad Juraquile · Feb 03, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Swehurn

EDIT: Good point, Matt. My failures have all been with an expert kit, but for Vlad - you weren't using a regular salvage kit, were you?

Yes, I've always used Expert Kits for weapon upgrades. That's why I've been getting Steel instead of Iron.

berko · Feb 03, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

I think I've had a 65/35 chance of getting the upgrade instead of materials (I mean the higher value upgrades).
I've had a 10/10 Sundering String salvage fine, 20% Hammer Enchant salvage fine and some others too i believe, but I also lost 20% Death Magic Wrapping (was pissed about this one) and 30 HP Sword Pommel. So yea it sucks but there's really nothing you can do about it but complain to Anet I guess. Or you could try to sell the weapon that has the mod at a lower price so then at least you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff.

fenix · Feb 03, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

I had a Fiery Battlepick of Enchanting, with 19% enchantments, and salvaged it to make a heap of cash from the SoA Axe, and I got Fiery, same thing has happened with other weapons, I always get the First mod, not the 2nd.

Mr. Smiles · Feb 03, 2006, 04:31 AM // 04:31

I have horrible luck on weapons with two upgrades. I found a perfect sundering longbow of fortitude in grenth's footprint and immediately tried to salvage it, hoping for the 10/10 sundering string... BAM bow grip of fortitude.

Its happened before with other weapons, i always seem to get the less valuable upgrade component...

twicky_kid · Feb 03, 2006, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Odds of salvaging may change as you get closer to perfect. I have done this so many times I lost count. That's the risk you take.

Hockster · Feb 03, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52

I always use superior kits, and my salvage rate on the good mod is about 10%. About 40% for the crap mod, and 50& craft materials.

Case in point: Recently got a rare cleaver drop. Not max, so useless, but it had a 10/10 sunder (useless I know, but sells well to noobs), and a +29 grip. My salvage: 19 granite slabs.

Yay for defective salvage kits.

Soul Shaker · Feb 03, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52

you konw what? couldn't salvage a perfect sword fort, but salvaged a 3:1 axe haft. difference between my luck? the fort mod i knew was valuable, the axe haft, i thought wasn't perfect so sold it for 5k......

so far, mainly comes down to whether you know it's valuable or not...this game is evul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVUUUUUUUUUUU ULLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL! IT PLAYS WITH YOUR MIND MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DJvirusz · Feb 03, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

it would never happen if u buy the kit that cost 2k

LightningHell · Feb 03, 2006, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by Soul Shaker

you konw what? couldn't salvage a perfect sword fort, but salvaged a 3:1 axe haft. difference between my luck? the fort mod i knew was valuable, the axe haft, i thought wasn't perfect so sold it for 5k......

A sword or axe 3:1 vamp mod is perfect.

fiery · Feb 03, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

count to 5....thats the materials you were about to craft....count to 10.. thats the grip you about to get.. count to 15 thats the first mod... count to 20.. thats the second mod...keep repeating opening and closing your invent.. ALWAYS use a expert salavage

Hockster · Feb 03, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

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Originally Posted by DJvirusz

it would never happen if u buy the kit that cost 2k

You've obviously never used one then. It happens a lot.

Loviatar · Feb 03, 2006, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by DJvirusz

it would never happen if u buy the kit that cost 2k

WRONG

the more expensive kit has more uses to save inventory space.

Anet confirmed there is no difference in salvage results between them except the expert kit costs 16 gold per salvage while the superior costs 20 gold per salvage for the convenience of space saving.

Griff Mon · Feb 03, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30

Someone told me that if you expert salvage first and then ID you always get the high value item. I've tried this on runes and have never missed getting a rune. Everytime that I have tried since I started doing it this way, I have always received the rune. And conservatively I would say 30 runes in a row.

I do not do this on weapons very often, but I was wondering if anyone had tried doing it this way.

Hockster · Feb 03, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55

Runes are a guaranteed salvage from dropped armor now. Item upgrades are not.

The Rightful One · Feb 03, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

ya, with items it just random chance, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes not so lucky.

Loviatar · Feb 03, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockster

Runes are a guaranteed salvage from dropped armor now. Item upgrades are not.

i remember before runes were guaranteed

i found my first (and only to this day) superior vigor.

i got a truly impressive pile of crafting materials.

didnt play for a couple of days.

Feb 03, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35	#1
Vlad Juraquile Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Chance of salvaging an upgrade? Does any know the chances that you'll salvage an upgrade off of a weapon? I've gotten three weapons with perfect upgrades (Axe Sundering, Sword Sundering, Sword Fortitude) while farming, but I've salvaged nothing but steel from all three weapons. Not only is this extremely frustrating to me, but it's also cost me approximately 150k (going from the average sell price of the upgrades at the time I failed to salvage them). I know some of you may say, "But at least you unlocked them for PvP!" However, I don't have any PvP characters, so unlocking them is absolutely useless for me.

Feb 03, 2006, 03:37 AM // 03:37	#2
Swehurn 1,787,569 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: BC, Canada	I'm sure it's just my perspective on the matter, but I have a horrible success rate salvaging perfect upgrades. I have great success with "almost-perfect" mods, but am zero for about thirty for perfect mods that are actually worth something. I'm sure it's perfectly random, though. 33% or so for a weapon with two mods, and maybe as high as 50% for a weapon with one mod. EDIT: Good point, Matt. My failures have all been with an expert kit, but for Vlad - you weren't using a regular salvage kit, were you? Last edited by Swehurn; Feb 03, 2006 at 03:52 AM // 03:52..

Feb 03, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41	#3
Vlad Juraquile Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Mo	Hm...I can salvage horrible upgrades with a 100% success rate, but when it comes to anything decent, I'm horrible. This is especially frustrating for me because I almost always have less than 15 platinum.

Feb 03, 2006, 03:47 AM // 03:47	#4
master_ranger_matt Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon Guild: Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT] Profession: R/Me	try using an expert or superior kit... that has never happened to anyone I know who used those kits

Feb 03, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#6
berko Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Profession: N/Me	I think I've had a 65/35 chance of getting the upgrade instead of materials (I mean the higher value upgrades). I've had a 10/10 Sundering String salvage fine, 20% Hammer Enchant salvage fine and some others too i believe, but I also lost 20% Death Magic Wrapping (was pissed about this one) and 30 HP Sword Pommel. So yea it sucks but there's really nothing you can do about it but complain to Anet I guess. Or you could try to sell the weapon that has the mod at a lower price so then at least you wouldn't have to worry about that stuff.

Feb 03, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25	#7
fenix Major-General Awesome Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger Guild: Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&# Profession: W/	I had a Fiery Battlepick of Enchanting, with 19% enchantments, and salvaged it to make a heap of cash from the SoA Axe, and I got Fiery, same thing has happened with other weapons, I always get the First mod, not the 2nd.

Feb 03, 2006, 04:31 AM // 04:31	#8
Mr. Smiles Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The REZ!!! Guild: Light Into Darkness Profession: W/E	I have horrible luck on weapons with two upgrades. I found a perfect sundering longbow of fortitude in grenth's footprint and immediately tried to salvage it, hoping for the 10/10 sundering string... BAM bow grip of fortitude. Its happened before with other weapons, i always seem to get the less valuable upgrade component...

Feb 03, 2006, 05:33 AM // 05:33	#9
twicky_kid Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Quite Vulgar [FUN]	Odds of salvaging may change as you get closer to perfect. I have done this so many times I lost count. That's the risk you take.

Feb 03, 2006, 07:52 AM // 07:52	#10
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	I always use superior kits, and my salvage rate on the good mod is about 10%. About 40% for the crap mod, and 50& craft materials. Case in point: Recently got a rare cleaver drop. Not max, so useless, but it had a 10/10 sunder (useless I know, but sells well to noobs), and a +29 grip. My salvage: 19 granite slabs. Yay for defective salvage kits.

Feb 03, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52	#11
Soul Shaker Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sunshine Coast, Australia Guild: Soul Crusaders	you konw what? couldn't salvage a perfect sword fort, but salvaged a 3:1 axe haft. difference between my luck? the fort mod i knew was valuable, the axe haft, i thought wasn't perfect so sold it for 5k...... so far, mainly comes down to whether you know it's valuable or not...this game is evul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVUUUUUUUUUUU ULLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!EVUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLL! IT PLAYS WITH YOUR MIND MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Feb 03, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01	#12
DJvirusz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2006 Guild: The Hierarchy Profession: W/Mo	it would never happen if u buy the kit that cost 2k

Feb 03, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31	#14
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	count to 5....thats the materials you were about to craft....count to 10.. thats the grip you about to get.. count to 15 thats the first mod... count to 20.. thats the second mod...keep repeating opening and closing your invent.. ALWAYS use a expert salavage

Feb 03, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30	#17
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	Someone told me that if you expert salvage first and then ID you always get the high value item. I've tried this on runes and have never missed getting a rune. Everytime that I have tried since I started doing it this way, I have always received the rune. And conservatively I would say 30 runes in a row. I do not do this on weapons very often, but I was wondering if anyone had tried doing it this way.

Feb 03, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55	#18
Hockster Banned Join Date: Jul 2005	Runes are a guaranteed salvage from dropped armor now. Item upgrades are not.

Feb 03, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20	#19
The Rightful One Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2005 Profession: R/	ya, with items it just random chance, sometimes you get lucky, sometimes not so lucky.