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wolfe2dale · Apr 26, 2006, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman

I just noticed you said that your in the UK (OP)

Have you thought about Joining a UK only guild?..

My last guild was 98% UK, I guess I'm looking for another guild like them I just don't seem to be having much luck at the moment.

It's a lot harder than it seems to find another guild when you've been in such a good one for a long time.... I guess I should get used to the idea that I will be solo'ing it for awhile. *shrugs*

felinette · Apr 26, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46

I've been surprised at how many players don't belong to guilds. I've been PUGging a lot lately, and about 20-30% of the players I go out with are guildless. These aren't new people--they're all level 20's.

I have two accounts. Joined a guild with one account and haven't really seen any benefit yet. Second account is still guildless.

Dove_Song · Apr 26, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31

You'll most likley have to join a grass roots guild and help build it.

Pinna · Apr 26, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

How were you recruited to the Guild? Was it a "XXXX is recruiting! Have cool cape and hall!" or did you research into your Guilds?

I was suprised to find out just how many people join Guilds from those damn chat spammers...

Try researching a Guild before joining it, play with a few of the members, invade their forums, etc.

Pandora's box · Apr 26, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55

There's not such a thing as 'the ultimate guild'. Even the best guild will have members you won't like. Listening to your story I can only give you this advise: try to accept people make mistakes and stop searching for the perfect guild. Because that does not exist! I'm sorry but reading how good some of your former guilds were I don't expect you to find any better. Unless you manage to unite the perfect group of players yourself!

Alleji · Apr 26, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I did enough guild-hopping since I started playing. Finding a guild that you like is hard, but keep trying. Personally, I've been happy with almost every single guild I was in during the time I spent in it.

When the game came out, I was invited by a friend into a guild of his friend. Naturally, we were all new. The guild leader didn't play much because it turned out that GW didn't support his graphics card and often crashed. The guild didn't last long... I think about two weeks. I only managed to complete the game with my first character at that time, ahead of everyone else in the guild.

So, I made my own, dragging a few people from our first guild and away from the inactive leader. We played PvE together and had fun for about another 2-3 weeks. I got into pugging UW quest groups and trying to get as far as possible and one night stumbled into a guild group that just happened to need a nuker. We spent over 4 hours down there, getting wiped at the chaos planes. The last of those 4 hours, they were trying to convince me to join their guild and I replied that I couldn't because I was a leader of one and had about a dozen friends in my guild. I took their offer to merge the guilds and I ended up in "Chaos Horde", a pretty big group of 50+ people, roughly half of whom were active. (I learned that UW and FoW quest groups is the best place to meet people

)

We played a lot of GvG, but were never too organized. The highest we've been on ladder was ~200, most of the time floating around 500-700 ranger, which wasn't impressive at all back then, but we had fun and I slowly shifted from mostly PvE to mostly PvP. Then the guild started dying due to inactivity. We played less and less, dropped off the ladder (henchway ftl) and I abandoned ship and walked around without a guild for a couple days.

Then I learned that most of my old friends who were still active left as well. I decided to look for a good guild to join and meanwhile formed "The Simic Combine", just to have a chat channel with some friends while we together looked for a guild. Unfortunately, I couldn't find one and after a week or so lost interest in the game. This was in the beginning of last September, I guess.

After a 2-month break, at the end of October, a RL friend dragged me back into the game. I reformed The Simic Combine and found that some of my old friends were still playing, so I invited them back in, promising that I'll get the guild off the ground instead of looking for one to join this time. Guess where I went for recruiting? UW pugs. Yeah, you get about three people you'd like to invite per day. One of those happens to be unhappy with his guild and joins yours. You still find more quality players this way, than throwing out 50 invites per day in Drok's. We did get off the ground and kept together until February. For one ladder season, TSC was on the second page of the ladder by games played. We were never high-ranked, but we played a lot and had fun. Our record was something like 74-68. I tried to get the guild into competitive spirit and doing HoH. I said "Wouldn't it be awesome if you one day saw 'The Simic Combine has won a battle in the Hall of Heroes'?" People agreed, but didn't do much about it. And, as always, before the next season the guild broke apart due to internal squabbles. An officer of mine throught he could do better and formed his own guild. As far as I know, that died recently. Myself, I felt that the casual GvG was keeping me and about 3-4 other members down and we could do better.

So instead of trying to rebuild the guild, I joined another one. Because of the lack of GvGing, I started playing tombs in February and met a guy from nOp (back then WTF) who wanted to make his own guild. When nOp died, he started "Moonlit Haven" and I joined. We had about 20 members, most of whom were freelance tombs players. Yeah... a group like that doesn't cling together much. Lasted about 3 weeks. I mean, they weren't bad people, just being all in a guild together didn't work out for us. Everyone had priorities outside the guild and it was bloody impossible to drag 8 people out of their own pugs to form a team.

Currently, I'm in Legend of Pi. I met them in tombs a little more than a month ago and played with them pretty often. Moonlit Haven wasn't doing too well, so I hopped over to them. Can't really tell how long it would last, as guilds do have a tendency to break apart out of the blue, but for as long as we're playing as we are now, I'm sticking with Pi. Sadly, the hop from MH to Pi split me away from the last of my orginal GW buddies, but I suppose that's what friend lists are for.

I never got to see the message "The Simic Combine won the Hall of Heroes", but Legend of Pi has multiple times.

Well, that came out longer than I thought. As you (OP) can see, changing guilds seems to be the natural state in this game. So, best of luck looking for a new one!

VGJustice · Apr 26, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27

I also recently had a falling out with my guild of 11 months, so I know the feeling. I honestly feel naked without my cape after so long.

But, I also think that this will give me a better chance in the long run. The way I look at it, there's no sence in letting something drag you down, even if it was something you enjoyed. There's a lot of guilds out there, you just have to find one that suits you. And, I know, easier said than done, but if you never try, you'll never succeed.

disposable-hero · Apr 26, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33

personally i dont 'look' for a guild nowadays. I now work on the theory if if they like my playing style in a PuG then i'll join. And thats lead to my current guild. They invite any members of PuG we start/join that a) are good team player and b) have a similar sence of humor.

Unfortunatly if your wanting to get into a guild this wont happen very oftern but it's one way of getting to know the guild beforehand.

wolfe2dale · Apr 26, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinna

How were you recruited to the Guild? Was it a "XXXX is recruiting! Have cool cape and hall!" or did you research into your Guilds?

I was suprised to find out just how many people join Guilds from those damn chat spammers...

Try researching a Guild before joining it, play with a few of the members, invade their forums, etc.

No, with the exception of the first & last I was very carefull about the guilds I accepted.

Right now I'm just trying to find that mythical blend of mature playing & real sense of fun that I found in my third, & longest, guild...

I guess something will show up sooner or later, I just hope it's sooner. Factions is not going to be nearly as much fun for the guildless players...

Jas D · Apr 26, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Only suggestion I have for you, is don't accept random invites. Join guilds you have had personal expirence with, to see if they aren't a bunch of idiots or immature players. Like, on quests, for example.

In my opinion, that works best for decent guilds, but it takes time.

Alleji · Apr 26, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfe2dale

I guess something will show up sooner or later, I just hope it's sooner.

Go into UW. Best place to meet people. :P

Vermilion · Apr 26, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Who would have thought a game like, "Guild Wars" would be better with a guild.

Most of the posts here give good suggestions..but really it all comes down to what you want. You've got to consider if you are aiming for a Pvp or PvE guild, (I think you'd want a little of both) and the activity of the guild. Those are things that are best to find out before joining any guild. my .02.

As for me, I joined my friend's guild upon getting the game, but we both left once I was on my feet and Joined what would be my second guild. It seemed good, with mostly older members, with 5-9 active people, especially on the weekends. The officers helped with anything PvE that was necessary, and Pvped on the weekends. Due to some dispute I left we left that guild a little later..

Back to the point..The activity of a guild is probably the most important thing. Right now, I'd be more satisfied with lots of active (that means everyday or close) "noobs" than our current lot...I'm the only person on at the moment, and when my friend gets on that will be two. :/ That, and without any emphasis on PvE at all, things are pretty meh.

Run Red Run · Apr 26, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09

It all depends on what you're looking for....
When I first started, I was in a guild that was really a multi-gaming clan. After awhile, they went back to other games and became inactive. At that point, I had beaten the game and was looking into getting into PvP since I'm a very competitive person. Best place I found to look was Team Arenas. After making some contacts, I convinced a friend to let me "tryout" for his guild. It was a friend from my first guild, myself, and 2 of the other guild's officers. We hopped on their vent and played TA for awhile (btw, we ran into the other guildmates in TA and "flawless'd" them

). We all seemed to hit it off and now I call the guild home. I am now very much involved in the expansion of the guild, and loving all of it. We don't always get along, but no guild out there is perfect. You just have to know what you're looking for in a guild and find people that are looking for those same things.

MMSDome · Apr 26, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

its really tough to find a good guild now a days unless you join through your friends. I recommend never join the ones spamming to give away officer positions or to pay you. I would say try to get tryouts to join a guild in TA if you like pvp, but guilds for pvp IMO or stuck up and all they care about winning and if you mess up you get kicked. I recently left a guild for being to pvp serious and couldnt stand when they would get mad at me for not playing 24/7 and not going to practices. Open your friends list up and see if they are willing to let you in. Dont trust guilds in ascalon or LA spamming to join...

Forbes · Apr 27, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17

I was also guild-less for the first 5 months of my GW experience. Well, if you don't count the guild my friend and I made to stop being bugged about joining someone's guild every 5 seconds

. Anyway, my friend stopped playing mostly, so I soloed around for awhile, but got a bit bored/frustrated with getting into PUGs (with my warrior, there were too many back then). So actually stumbled upon a group of people on a site where I used to play freelancer (I feel you OP!), but they had mostly moved on from that, but had started a GW guild. I posted a bit on their forums (mind you I didn't really know any of them too well) and then got invited/decided to join their guild. It's been great ever since. Couldn't have found a nicer bunch of people.

ANYWAY, my point being is having a guild with website/forums really helped, bound us together much better, plus easier to keep in-touch out of game, and a real community feeling.

If I were you I would look around for a guild and check out their forums, talk to them there and see what they're like when they aren't in-game trying to get a PUG together.

Samueldg · Apr 27, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

OP, I totally understand where your coming from...

my 8 month history is much the same as yours ..

IMO the problems most common are the way people make guilds... more often than not someone buys a sigil and starts one up and promotes the first few people who join to officers...

this essentually means anyone regardless of aptitude can make a guild...I've ran into really poor leadership issues, elitism within a guild based on "join date" and who gives the leader and officers the best butt smoochings..

its rare to find a guild thats good together.. especially more difficult being 33, a professional and deaf..

my common complaints are;
1. ts/vent required for gvg
2. constant updates on what bowl your smokin now..
3. "gotta go mom is mad Im up past bedtime"
4. not knowing whats going on in guild because all conversation is on ts/vent...
5. listening to some child refer to other guildmates in a number of creative racial slurs, "cause thats IN"
6. buddy guilds aka people who have never and will never meet telling me about their wifes cheating/husband cheating/broke and cant pay the rent/ etc etc .. not to be rude but im not dr. phil... im not there to have you cry on my shoulder .... and just because im an adult doesnt mean I want to log onto a game and hear about YOUR adult issues..
7. patronization.. yes im deaf.. im okay with that.. the game is set up to cater to me as is.. use guild chat call targets etc etc.. im fine ... you dont need to spam "heal me" twenty times in a gvg, im deaf not blind...

to that end I made an ad... because I think eventually ill find a guild that works with me and allows me to be a productive member...

Deaf adult LF GUILD:

I love to gvg and pvp.. Ive gotten to gvg quite a bit through invites with people I know but with factions Id like to get a guild thats okay with having a deaf player..

im also big into making new charicters constantly and doing missions/ quests/ farming.. ( cant stand looking at the same charicter for too long) Im UAS on my account and spend too much time in random arena....

pm me in game if your interested in an adult, witty, professional 33 year old company owner who will never hear you cry on ts/vent
IGN:
uncle Samuel, holly ween

do I think ill find a guild? actually nope... most that id be interested in use ts/vent exclusively.. but if I didnt try id just be a whiner...

wolfe2dale · May 03, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04

So, as you can see, I found a guild. Yay for me!!

Not sure how this will turn out, but I have high hopes, the GL is a nice guy & those guildies I have met so far seem friendly & helpful.

Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread, I really appreciate all of your kind advice.

Apr 26, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#26
Alleji Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2006	I did enough guild-hopping since I started playing. Finding a guild that you like is hard, but keep trying. Personally, I've been happy with almost every single guild I was in during the time I spent in it. When the game came out, I was invited by a friend into a guild of his friend. Naturally, we were all new. The guild leader didn't play much because it turned out that GW didn't support his graphics card and often crashed. The guild didn't last long... I think about two weeks. I only managed to complete the game with my first character at that time, ahead of everyone else in the guild. So, I made my own, dragging a few people from our first guild and away from the inactive leader. We played PvE together and had fun for about another 2-3 weeks. I got into pugging UW quest groups and trying to get as far as possible and one night stumbled into a guild group that just happened to need a nuker. We spent over 4 hours down there, getting wiped at the chaos planes. The last of those 4 hours, they were trying to convince me to join their guild and I replied that I couldn't because I was a leader of one and had about a dozen friends in my guild. I took their offer to merge the guilds and I ended up in "Chaos Horde", a pretty big group of 50+ people, roughly half of whom were active. (I learned that UW and FoW quest groups is the best place to meet people ) We played a lot of GvG, but were never too organized. The highest we've been on ladder was ~200, most of the time floating around 500-700 ranger, which wasn't impressive at all back then, but we had fun and I slowly shifted from mostly PvE to mostly PvP. Then the guild started dying due to inactivity. We played less and less, dropped off the ladder (henchway ftl) and I abandoned ship and walked around without a guild for a couple days. Then I learned that most of my old friends who were still active left as well. I decided to look for a good guild to join and meanwhile formed "The Simic Combine", just to have a chat channel with some friends while we together looked for a guild. Unfortunately, I couldn't find one and after a week or so lost interest in the game. This was in the beginning of last September, I guess. After a 2-month break, at the end of October, a RL friend dragged me back into the game. I reformed The Simic Combine and found that some of my old friends were still playing, so I invited them back in, promising that I'll get the guild off the ground instead of looking for one to join this time. Guess where I went for recruiting? UW pugs. Yeah, you get about three people you'd like to invite per day. One of those happens to be unhappy with his guild and joins yours. You still find more quality players this way, than throwing out 50 invites per day in Drok's. We did get off the ground and kept together until February. For one ladder season, TSC was on the second page of the ladder by games played. We were never high-ranked, but we played a lot and had fun. Our record was something like 74-68. I tried to get the guild into competitive spirit and doing HoH. I said "Wouldn't it be awesome if you one day saw 'The Simic Combine has won a battle in the Hall of Heroes'?" People agreed, but didn't do much about it. And, as always, before the next season the guild broke apart due to internal squabbles. An officer of mine throught he could do better and formed his own guild. As far as I know, that died recently. Myself, I felt that the casual GvG was keeping me and about 3-4 other members down and we could do better. So instead of trying to rebuild the guild, I joined another one. Because of the lack of GvGing, I started playing tombs in February and met a guy from nOp (back then WTF) who wanted to make his own guild. When nOp died, he started "Moonlit Haven" and I joined. We had about 20 members, most of whom were freelance tombs players. Yeah... a group like that doesn't cling together much. Lasted about 3 weeks. I mean, they weren't bad people, just being all in a guild together didn't work out for us. Everyone had priorities outside the guild and it was bloody impossible to drag 8 people out of their own pugs to form a team. Currently, I'm in Legend of Pi. I met them in tombs a little more than a month ago and played with them pretty often. Moonlit Haven wasn't doing too well, so I hopped over to them. Can't really tell how long it would last, as guilds do have a tendency to break apart out of the blue, but for as long as we're playing as we are now, I'm sticking with Pi. Sadly, the hop from MH to Pi split me away from the last of my orginal GW buddies, but I suppose that's what friend lists are for. I never got to see the message "The Simic Combine won the Hall of Heroes", but Legend of Pi has multiple times. Well, that came out longer than I thought. As you (OP) can see, changing guilds seems to be the natural state in this game. So, best of luck looking for a new one! Last edited by Alleji; Apr 26, 2006 at 06:21 PM // 18:21..

Apr 26, 2006, 04:46 PM // 16:46	#22
felinette Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: Girl Power [GP] Profession: Me/	I've been surprised at how many players don't belong to guilds. I've been PUGging a lot lately, and about 20-30% of the players I go out with are guildless. These aren't new people--they're all level 20's. I have two accounts. Joined a guild with one account and haven't really seen any benefit yet. Second account is still guildless.

Apr 26, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31	#23
Dove_Song Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2006	You'll most likley have to join a grass roots guild and help build it.

Apr 26, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33	#24
Pinna Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Hell Reapers [HR] Profession: Mo/	How were you recruited to the Guild? Was it a "XXXX is recruiting! Have cool cape and hall!" or did you research into your Guilds? I was suprised to find out just how many people join Guilds from those damn chat spammers... Try researching a Guild before joining it, play with a few of the members, invade their forums, etc.

Apr 26, 2006, 05:55 PM // 17:55	#25
Pandora's box Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Netherlands Profession: Mo/W	There's not such a thing as 'the ultimate guild'. Even the best guild will have members you won't like. Listening to your story I can only give you this advise: try to accept people make mistakes and stop searching for the perfect guild. Because that does not exist! I'm sorry but reading how good some of your former guilds were I don't expect you to find any better. Unless you manage to unite the perfect group of players yourself!

Apr 26, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27	#27
VGJustice Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tyria, cappin' ur bosses Guild: Boston Guild [BG] Profession: R/W	I also recently had a falling out with my guild of 11 months, so I know the feeling. I honestly feel naked without my cape after so long. But, I also think that this will give me a better chance in the long run. The way I look at it, there's no sence in letting something drag you down, even if it was something you enjoyed. There's a lot of guilds out there, you just have to find one that suits you. And, I know, easier said than done, but if you never try, you'll never succeed.

Apr 26, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33	#28
disposable-hero Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Oct 2005 Guild: MU tants [MU] Profession: N/	personally i dont 'look' for a guild nowadays. I now work on the theory if if they like my playing style in a PuG then i'll join. And thats lead to my current guild. They invite any members of PuG we start/join that a) are good team player and b) have a similar sence of humor. Unfortunatly if your wanting to get into a guild this wont happen very oftern but it's one way of getting to know the guild beforehand.

Apr 26, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01	#30
Jas D Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Guild: None	Only suggestion I have for you, is don't accept random invites. Join guilds you have had personal expirence with, to see if they aren't a bunch of idiots or immature players. Like, on quests, for example. In my opinion, that works best for decent guilds, but it takes time.

Apr 26, 2006, 09:51 PM // 21:51	#32
Vermilion Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NY	Who would have thought a game like, "Guild Wars" would be better with a guild. Most of the posts here give good suggestions..but really it all comes down to what you want. You've got to consider if you are aiming for a Pvp or PvE guild, (I think you'd want a little of both) and the activity of the guild. Those are things that are best to find out before joining any guild. my .02. As for me, I joined my friend's guild upon getting the game, but we both left once I was on my feet and Joined what would be my second guild. It seemed good, with mostly older members, with 5-9 active people, especially on the weekends. The officers helped with anything PvE that was necessary, and Pvped on the weekends. Due to some dispute I left we left that guild a little later.. Back to the point..The activity of a guild is probably the most important thing. Right now, I'd be more satisfied with lots of active (that means everyday or close) "noobs" than our current lot...I'm the only person on at the moment, and when my friend gets on that will be two. :/ That, and without any emphasis on PvE at all, things are pretty meh.

Apr 26, 2006, 10:09 PM // 22:09	#33
Run Red Run Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Colorado Guild: Rally Opposing Fears [ROFL]	It all depends on what you're looking for.... When I first started, I was in a guild that was really a multi-gaming clan. After awhile, they went back to other games and became inactive. At that point, I had beaten the game and was looking into getting into PvP since I'm a very competitive person. Best place I found to look was Team Arenas. After making some contacts, I convinced a friend to let me "tryout" for his guild. It was a friend from my first guild, myself, and 2 of the other guild's officers. We hopped on their vent and played TA for awhile (btw, we ran into the other guildmates in TA and "flawless'd" them ). We all seemed to hit it off and now I call the guild home. I am now very much involved in the expansion of the guild, and loving all of it. We don't always get along, but no guild out there is perfect. You just have to know what you're looking for in a guild and find people that are looking for those same things.

Apr 26, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22	#34
MMSDome Raged Out Join Date: Sep 2005	its really tough to find a good guild now a days unless you join through your friends. I recommend never join the ones spamming to give away officer positions or to pay you. I would say try to get tryouts to join a guild in TA if you like pvp, but guilds for pvp IMO or stuck up and all they care about winning and if you mess up you get kicked. I recently left a guild for being to pvp serious and couldnt stand when they would get mad at me for not playing 24/7 and not going to practices. Open your friends list up and see if they are willing to let you in. Dont trust guilds in ascalon or LA spamming to join...

Apr 27, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17	#35
Forbes Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: East Coast Guild: Boston Guild Profession: Mo/Me	I was also guild-less for the first 5 months of my GW experience. Well, if you don't count the guild my friend and I made to stop being bugged about joining someone's guild every 5 seconds . Anyway, my friend stopped playing mostly, so I soloed around for awhile, but got a bit bored/frustrated with getting into PUGs (with my warrior, there were too many back then). So actually stumbled upon a group of people on a site where I used to play freelancer (I feel you OP!), but they had mostly moved on from that, but had started a GW guild. I posted a bit on their forums (mind you I didn't really know any of them too well) and then got invited/decided to join their guild. It's been great ever since. Couldn't have found a nicer bunch of people. ANYWAY, my point being is having a guild with website/forums really helped, bound us together much better, plus easier to keep in-touch out of game, and a real community feeling. If I were you I would look around for a guild and check out their forums, talk to them there and see what they're like when they aren't in-game trying to get a PUG together.

Apr 27, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58	#36
Samueldg Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Colorado Profession: N/Mo	OP, I totally understand where your coming from... my 8 month history is much the same as yours .. IMO the problems most common are the way people make guilds... more often than not someone buys a sigil and starts one up and promotes the first few people who join to officers... this essentually means anyone regardless of aptitude can make a guild...I've ran into really poor leadership issues, elitism within a guild based on "join date" and who gives the leader and officers the best butt smoochings.. its rare to find a guild thats good together.. especially more difficult being 33, a professional and deaf.. my common complaints are; 1. ts/vent required for gvg 2. constant updates on what bowl your smokin now.. 3. "gotta go mom is mad Im up past bedtime" 4. not knowing whats going on in guild because all conversation is on ts/vent... 5. listening to some child refer to other guildmates in a number of creative racial slurs, "cause thats IN" 6. buddy guilds aka people who have never and will never meet telling me about their wifes cheating/husband cheating/broke and cant pay the rent/ etc etc .. not to be rude but im not dr. phil... im not there to have you cry on my shoulder .... and just because im an adult doesnt mean I want to log onto a game and hear about YOUR adult issues.. 7. patronization.. yes im deaf.. im okay with that.. the game is set up to cater to me as is.. use guild chat call targets etc etc.. im fine ... you dont need to spam "heal me" twenty times in a gvg, im deaf not blind... to that end I made an ad... because I think eventually ill find a guild that works with me and allows me to be a productive member... Deaf adult LF GUILD: I love to gvg and pvp.. Ive gotten to gvg quite a bit through invites with people I know but with factions Id like to get a guild thats okay with having a deaf player.. im also big into making new charicters constantly and doing missions/ quests/ farming.. ( cant stand looking at the same charicter for too long) Im UAS on my account and spend too much time in random arena.... pm me in game if your interested in an adult, witty, professional 33 year old company owner who will never hear you cry on ts/vent IGN: uncle Samuel, holly ween do I think ill find a guild? actually nope... most that id be interested in use ts/vent exclusively.. but if I didnt try id just be a whiner...

May 03, 2006, 11:04 AM // 11:04	#37
wolfe2dale Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hemel Hempstead Guild: Guildless... Profession: E/Me	So, as you can see, I found a guild. Yay for me!! Not sure how this will turn out, but I have high hopes, the GL is a nice guy & those guildies I have met so far seem friendly & helpful. Thanks to everyone who replied to this thread, I really appreciate all of your kind advice.