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Riken Chrono · Jul 10, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54

Axes FTL Swords FTL Fists FTW. Thats all im saying.

But to get to more seriuos matters, when im soloing IDS and FoW (beach and cave) Axe seems to do it faster. Overall for me i think Axe is doing alot more damage to everything than sword, just my experience but go with whatever you want. I preferably use my axe because i think my axe looks cooler than my swords and hammers so mostly depends on your build and yea. But yea

Fists>All

Aejorii · Jul 10, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

It kinda depends on preference, but I get a lot more chain kills with an axe, while with a sword I have to combo attacks to get the full effect. Same with hammer as I have to knockdown to get the deepwound with crushing blow. With axe, it's just damage and you can quickly apply deepwound with one hit: Eviscerate. Bbbbuuut, get a combo off with sword at the right health and final thrust hurts sooooo much.

quanzong · Jul 11, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26

LoL, someone said Axes are better looking than swords, no axe costs 1million, unlike a perfect crystalline.

Well...
If your going PvE USE the SWORD, its better, more effective too, because most axe skills require a lot of adrenaline, unlike swords, you can make someone bleed and get deep wound for 8 strikes of adrenaline, not much, now is it? I never farm with axe because its WAY too slow, my crystalline and I do the job WAY faster. Sword skills are WAY better than axe skills TRUST ME. Nothing is wrong with combo attacks, if combo attacks are bad, than ASSASSINS are bad PERIOD.

Now PvP side,
Swords and Axes suck, damage is too little, healer just heal that little all up, while HAMMERS, they deal BIG POWERFUL damage, and tons of knockdowns. However Sword beats axe again, because in PvP, sword skills have a lot of counters vs blocks and evades, which Players are known to do a lot in PvP.

Swords>HAMMERS>Axes

Shadowfox1125 · Jul 11, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

There might not be a crystalline for axes, but a Perfect Gold Gothic Dual Axe is also worth an insane amount.
FYI, you don't have to listen to everybody who posts here. It's actually just preference. quanzong says that farming with axes is too slow.. yet a majority of warriors use axes for farming with axes. Cyclone or even triple chop is perfect for PvE; just don't bring it for PvP. quanzong also says that axe skills take too much adren. But that's the reason why you bring Cyclone or Triple Chop with you. Use cyclone to generate adren and you've got it.

quanzong, please think about what you are going to post before you post it. If someone says that axes are better looking than swords, that is their preference or opinion. You have yours. No reason to poke fun at another's opinion. In the end of a battle, skins of weaps don't mean much. I can do the same amount of dmg as a Perfect Crystalline with, for example, a Perfect Long Sword. People who have the money to buy perfect crystallines end up showing off their weaps, but those players are usually exceptionally skilled. Oh, and last time I checked Sever Artery + Gash Combo, which deals bleed then deep wound is 11 adren. 4 + 7 = 11, according to guildwiki

For me, I switch off between axes and swords, but I find myself using axes more often.
IMO, Axe>Sword>Hammer.

aB- · Jul 11, 2006, 01:09 AM // 01:09

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Originally Posted by quanzong

LoL, someone said Axes are better looking than swords, no axe costs 1million, unlike a perfect crystalline.

So far from the truth it is laughable. In fact, a white max damage Prophecies sephis axe would sell for an outragous sum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

Well...
If your going PvE USE the SWORD, its better, more effective too, because most axe skills require a lot of adrenaline, unlike swords, you can make someone bleed and get deep wound for 8 strikes of adrenaline, not much, now is it?

SOME axe skills require a lot of adrenaline like eviscerate and executioner's strike. However, there are the 2 forms of penetrating blow that cost 5 adrenaline, and the newly added axe attack that costs 2 adrenaline I believe. Swords, on the other hand, have a low adrenaline skill, sever artery, but look at the other skills. Final thrust takes 10 adrenaline, galrath slash and silverwing slash take 8, and standing slash takes 7.

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Originally Posted by quanzong

I never farm with axe because its WAY too slow, my crystalline and I do the job WAY faster. Sword skills are WAY better than axe skills TRUST ME. Nothing is wrong with combo attacks, if combo attacks are bad, than ASSASSINS are bad PERIOD.

The fact that sword skills have no AoE attacks generally make them inferior to farm large amounts of monsters. Cyclone axe and/or triple chop can drop a group of melee and bunched up ranged monsters very quickly.

Shadowfox1125 · Jul 11, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14

And then there was this axe.
http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3072492
Looks to be over a million to me.

lol. If these were still available in game..

Tamriel · Jul 11, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30

Whether you go axe or sword, it depends on the build that you want to run. I prefer axes because it has more diverse uses.

Spike · Jul 11, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

AB- Swords DO have AN AOE attack its called hundred blades and its rather handy. check your facts BEFORE you post next time.

Fact Swords do the most damage over time. Apart form that its personal choice. I prefer swords.

Lord Oranos · Jul 11, 2006, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Hammer ftw! Id rather take the kds, the dw and the damage thank you.

SparhawkJC · Jul 11, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

I hate these threads. Hammers>All

Spike · Jul 11, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Hammers are WAY to slow, and you can't use a shield.

aB- · Jul 11, 2006, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike

AB- Swords DO have AN AOE attack its called hundred blades and its rather handy. check your facts BEFORE you post next time.

Fact Swords do the most damage over time. Apart form that its personal choice. I prefer swords.

Sorry, I skipped over an elite sword attack that only hits foes adjacent to the target instead of targets adjacent to you.

And swords have a DPS of 21.34, while axes have a DPS of 21.84.

quanzong · Jul 11, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

OK if axes get 15% always and swords dont without a counterpart, then axes for sure. However if swords get 15% always too without being green, then swords for sure.
Trust me PvE = SWORD
Cuz Showoff, EASY to USE, BEST SKILLS
PvP = HAMMER & Sword over AXE
Axes is like people thinking that req 8 does more damage than req 13, when compared to swords.

Phrozen_ · Jul 11, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

LoL, someone said Axes are better looking than swords, no axe costs 1million, unlike a perfect crystalline.

That doesnt make sense... so because it costs more than 1 mil, it means that it is better looking? In my opinion crystallines are ugly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

Well...
If your going PvE USE the SWORD, its better, more effective too, because most axe skills require a lot of adrenaline, unlike swords, you can make someone bleed and get deep wound for 8 strikes of adrenaline, not much, now is it?

Sever Artery (4 adrenaline) + Gash (7 arenaline) = 11 adrenaline... while Evicerate takes only 8 adrenaline and does +42 bonus damage plus it only takes 1 skill slot.

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Originally Posted by quanzong

Now PvP side,
Swords and Axes suck, damage is too little, healer just heal that little all up, while HAMMERS, they deal BIG POWERFUL damage, and tons of knockdowns. However Sword beats axe again, because in PvP, sword skills have a lot of counters vs blocks and evades, which Players are known to do a lot in PvP.

Swords>HAMMERS>Axes

LOL... wow so you take riposte and deadly riposte into pvp... i cant be bothered explaining why this is retarded.

Axes are used because of their ability to spike.

Finally you contradicted yourself with your last statement 'sword>hammer>axes' but in the first line in your last paragraph you said swords and axes suck then go on to boast about hammers BIG POWERFUL damage and knockdowns.

BTW.. how much experience do you have in pvp quanzong?

Hidden in the Mist · Jul 11, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Phrozen_

That doesnt make sense... so because it costs more than 1 mil, it means that it is better looking? In my opinion crystallines are ugly.

That's your opinion. Some people think it's the best and would be willing to pay outrageous amount of cash for it.

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Originally Posted by Phrozen_

Sever Artery (4 adrenaline) + Gash (7 arenaline) = 11 adrenaline... while Evicerate takes only 8 adrenaline and does +42 bonus damage plus it only takes 1 skill slot.

The 'Sever Artery+Gash' combo only takes 7 adenaline, not 11. It's like saying the combo for axes takes 16 adenaline because of Eviscerate (8 adenaline) + Executioner's Strike (8 adenaline).

Remember, Evicerate needs 8 adenaline to be used, that's one more than the sword combo above. Sure, Eviscerate is like two skills in one (Dismember + Executioner's Strike) because it's an elite. While the mentioned sword combo above doesn't rely on any elite to do the same as the axe combo.

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Originally Posted by Phrozen_

LOL... wow so you take riposte and deadly riposte into pvp... i cant be bothered explaining why this is retarded.

I agree with that.

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Originally Posted by Phrozen_

Axes are used because of their ability to spike.

Swords can spike also, ever had a 'Sever Artery + Gash + Final Thrust' combo happen to you? Or tried it?

Shadowfox1125 · Jul 11, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

OK if axes get 15% always and swords dont without a counterpart, then axes for sure. However if swords get 15% always too without being green, then swords for sure.
Trust me PvE = SWORD
Cuz Showoff, EASY to USE, BEST SKILLS
PvP = HAMMER & Sword over AXE
Axes is like people thinking that req 8 does more damage than req 13, when compared to swords.

Um.. what does showing off have anything to do with this? And how are sword skills easier to use than Axe skills? No offense, but it seems like axes are too complex for you. And they're as easy to use as your sword skills. Best is just your preference. We already got that from your earlier post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by quanzong

Axes is like people thinking that req 8 does more damage than req 13, when compared to swords.

I really have no ----ing clue what you are trying to say here. I really can't "TRUST" you here.

Overall, you really gotta rethink your logic..

fiery · Jul 11, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Axes used most by people has elites to be effective.
Swords can input damage without an elite.

Mournblade · Jul 11, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

OMFG please close this thread - the answer has already been given - it's all about preference. You can rock with either a sword or axe (or hammer, or fists). Its all up to you to stack your skills to support your weapon.

Akhilleus · Jul 11, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21

A: currently, the 8 req 14% no conditional serpant axe is going for more than that 15% dual-axe.
B: as one of the few people with a customized 8 15>50 crystalline sword i can tell you...skin does NOT equal skill.
C: i can (and do) use my req 7 15 -5 winglbade more than any other sword i own...including my custom crystalline.

with thos having been said.
i have a sword warrior, and axe warrior, and a hammer warrior. they are all pretty darn good at their jobs and i will say this; no 1 weapon is "better" than another.
yes, some are better than others in some purposes, but overall, the "best" weapon is determined (99.9% of the time) by the circumstances/way in which it is used.
overall ive found that swords have higher DPS than axes...making them better for pve. axes, meanwhile, have the highest chainable spike damage (assuming crits...as with the addition of ch2 sword skills swords can actually compete with axes for spike damage...something they couldnt really do in ch1 exclusivly)
and hammers, while they do the LOWEST dps out of the warrior weapons (yes, hit for hit they do the most...but overall an axe or sword will do more over time), hammers are unparalleled for taking down casters quick and nasty. with a hammer you get your opponent on the floor, and while they are on the floor you are nailing them with massive attacks, keeping them from casting, and killing them at the same time (something neither a sword or axe is very good at). as a tradeoff though...hammer warriors go down the fastest...often they will die to a spike just as easily as a caster...which can be a disadvantage in gvgs where DPSing the warriors is a strategy.

it depends on your playstyle.
in pve axes are quite good for hitting multiple foes, swords, meanwhile do excellent dps in pve, hammers in pve are pretty much...not a good idea.
in pvp sword warriors have their uses -mainly the fact that they dont 100% rely on adrenaline like any half decent axe warrior...sword wars can use energy based skills to do some off-the-cuff damage that axe warriors just cant do withotu charging adren- though axe warriors are the preference...mainly becase eviscerate, an all-in-1 damage spike/deep wound spike, works wonders when in conjunction with regular spike dmg. hammer warriors are also a novelty for butchering monks/rearline casters.
each class has its purpose...and in all honesty, if you want to get the most out of warriors...get 1 of each class on your team that knows what they are doing. 1 axe war, 1 hammer, 1 sword can be a deadly combo when operated in unison.

quanzong · Jul 11, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

Ok ok so to get bleeding and deep wound costs 13 or whatever, I didnt check the adren so gimme a break lol. However whoa nelly 8 adrenalline for 1 thing thats not really good lol. See if you make your opponent bleed with 4 adren, that takes like 3 hits to get 4 adren, and 6 hits to get 8 adren, so basically you get em to bleed, and bleeding causes damage yes? Eviscrete sucks, oop i blocked it, you going to get 8 more adren? with low req adren you are given more chances, unlike wasting time to get a lot of adren to get all in 1, thats kinda like hammer damage, wastes time for a powerful blow. I say the best warrior elite skill is warrior endurance, that with sword or hammer warrior makes them WAY better than axe warriors. And for me bringing in riptoses, I never said that, I said they can COUNTER them. You know CANNOT BE BLOCKED. More sword skills can counter those skills. Because someone ALWAYS brings 75% to block or evade. Yeah if you read, higher req means more damage. so yep, those req 8 weapons are bad bad damage, feel sorry for ya, I just get em to sell lol.

For real trust me, my warrior is lvl 20 and has been playing for 13 months, and I got a crystalline sword, in my 1st 2 months. Yeah I got 25 fame, its good enough to say A LOT!

Jul 10, 2006, 08:54 PM // 20:54	#21
Riken Chrono Desert Nomad Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: around the corner and up the block Guild: Hero	Axes FTL Swords FTL Fists FTW. Thats all im saying. But to get to more seriuos matters, when im soloing IDS and FoW (beach and cave) Axe seems to do it faster. Overall for me i think Axe is doing alot more damage to everything than sword, just my experience but go with whatever you want. I preferably use my axe because i think my axe looks cooler than my swords and hammers so mostly depends on your build and yea. But yea Fists>All

Jul 10, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53	#22
Aejorii Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SF, CA Profession: W/	It kinda depends on preference, but I get a lot more chain kills with an axe, while with a sword I have to combo attacks to get the full effect. Same with hammer as I have to knockdown to get the deepwound with crushing blow. With axe, it's just damage and you can quickly apply deepwound with one hit: Eviscerate. Bbbbuuut, get a combo off with sword at the right health and final thrust hurts sooooo much.

Jul 11, 2006, 12:26 AM // 00:26	#23
quanzong Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere cold Guild: The Followers of the Messiah Profession: W/Me	LoL, someone said Axes are better looking than swords, no axe costs 1million, unlike a perfect crystalline. Well... If your going PvE USE the SWORD, its better, more effective too, because most axe skills require a lot of adrenaline, unlike swords, you can make someone bleed and get deep wound for 8 strikes of adrenaline, not much, now is it? I never farm with axe because its WAY too slow, my crystalline and I do the job WAY faster. Sword skills are WAY better than axe skills TRUST ME. Nothing is wrong with combo attacks, if combo attacks are bad, than ASSASSINS are bad PERIOD. Now PvP side, Swords and Axes suck, damage is too little, healer just heal that little all up, while HAMMERS, they deal BIG POWERFUL damage, and tons of knockdowns. However Sword beats axe again, because in PvP, sword skills have a lot of counters vs blocks and evades, which Players are known to do a lot in PvP. Swords>HAMMERS>Axes

Jul 11, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02	#24
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	There might not be a crystalline for axes, but a Perfect Gold Gothic Dual Axe is also worth an insane amount. FYI, you don't have to listen to everybody who posts here. It's actually just preference. quanzong says that farming with axes is too slow.. yet a majority of warriors use axes for farming with axes. Cyclone or even triple chop is perfect for PvE; just don't bring it for PvP. quanzong also says that axe skills take too much adren. But that's the reason why you bring Cyclone or Triple Chop with you. Use cyclone to generate adren and you've got it. quanzong, please think about what you are going to post before you post it. If someone says that axes are better looking than swords, that is their preference or opinion. You have yours. No reason to poke fun at another's opinion. In the end of a battle, skins of weaps don't mean much. I can do the same amount of dmg as a Perfect Crystalline with, for example, a Perfect Long Sword. People who have the money to buy perfect crystallines end up showing off their weaps, but those players are usually exceptionally skilled. Oh, and last time I checked Sever Artery + Gash Combo, which deals bleed then deep wound is 11 adren. 4 + 7 = 11, according to guildwiki For me, I switch off between axes and swords, but I find myself using axes more often. IMO, Axe>Sword>Hammer.

Jul 11, 2006, 01:14 AM // 01:14	#26
Shadowfox1125 Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: PST Profession: W/	And then there was this axe. http://guildwarsguru.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3072492 Looks to be over a million to me. lol. If these were still available in game..

Jul 11, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30	#27
Tamriel Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Coruscant Guild: Ashes Of Xellnova [AXEL] Profession: E/Me	Whether you go axe or sword, it depends on the build that you want to run. I prefer axes because it has more diverse uses.

Jul 11, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51	#28
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	AB- Swords DO have AN AOE attack its called hundred blades and its rather handy. check your facts BEFORE you post next time. Fact Swords do the most damage over time. Apart form that its personal choice. I prefer swords.

Jul 11, 2006, 01:56 AM // 01:56	#29
Lord Oranos Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Aspenwood	Hammer ftw! Id rather take the kds, the dw and the damage thank you.

Jul 11, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58	#30
SparhawkJC Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Amazon Basin Profession: R/Me	I hate these threads. Hammers>All

Jul 11, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19	#31
Spike Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: In front of my PC Guild: Kai Profession: E/Mo	Hammers are WAY to slow, and you can't use a shield.

Jul 11, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18	#33
quanzong Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere cold Guild: The Followers of the Messiah Profession: W/Me	OK if axes get 15% always and swords dont without a counterpart, then axes for sure. However if swords get 15% always too without being green, then swords for sure. Trust me PvE = SWORD Cuz Showoff, EASY to USE, BEST SKILLS PvP = HAMMER & Sword over AXE Axes is like people thinking that req 8 does more damage than req 13, when compared to swords.

Jul 11, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41	#37
fiery Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: maryland Guild: InYurFace Gaming [IYF] Profession: R/	Axes used most by people has elites to be effective. Swords can input damage without an elite.

Jul 11, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56	#38
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	OMFG please close this thread - the answer has already been given - it's all about preference. You can rock with either a sword or axe (or hammer, or fists). Its all up to you to stack your skills to support your weapon.

Jul 11, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21	#39
Akhilleus Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'. Guild: Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark] Profession: W/Mo	A: currently, the 8 req 14% no conditional serpant axe is going for more than that 15% dual-axe. B: as one of the few people with a customized 8 15>50 crystalline sword i can tell you...skin does NOT equal skill. C: i can (and do) use my req 7 15 -5 winglbade more than any other sword i own...including my custom crystalline. with thos having been said. i have a sword warrior, and axe warrior, and a hammer warrior. they are all pretty darn good at their jobs and i will say this; no 1 weapon is "better" than another. yes, some are better than others in some purposes, but overall, the "best" weapon is determined (99.9% of the time) by the circumstances/way in which it is used. overall ive found that swords have higher DPS than axes...making them better for pve. axes, meanwhile, have the highest chainable spike damage (assuming crits...as with the addition of ch2 sword skills swords can actually compete with axes for spike damage...something they couldnt really do in ch1 exclusivly) and hammers, while they do the LOWEST dps out of the warrior weapons (yes, hit for hit they do the most...but overall an axe or sword will do more over time), hammers are unparalleled for taking down casters quick and nasty. with a hammer you get your opponent on the floor, and while they are on the floor you are nailing them with massive attacks, keeping them from casting, and killing them at the same time (something neither a sword or axe is very good at). as a tradeoff though...hammer warriors go down the fastest...often they will die to a spike just as easily as a caster...which can be a disadvantage in gvgs where DPSing the warriors is a strategy. it depends on your playstyle. in pve axes are quite good for hitting multiple foes, swords, meanwhile do excellent dps in pve, hammers in pve are pretty much...not a good idea. in pvp sword warriors have their uses -mainly the fact that they dont 100% rely on adrenaline like any half decent axe warrior...sword wars can use energy based skills to do some off-the-cuff damage that axe warriors just cant do withotu charging adren- though axe warriors are the preference...mainly becase eviscerate, an all-in-1 damage spike/deep wound spike, works wonders when in conjunction with regular spike dmg. hammer warriors are also a novelty for butchering monks/rearline casters. each class has its purpose...and in all honesty, if you want to get the most out of warriors...get 1 of each class on your team that knows what they are doing. 1 axe war, 1 hammer, 1 sword can be a deadly combo when operated in unison.

Jul 11, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51	#40
quanzong Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere cold Guild: The Followers of the Messiah Profession: W/Me	Ok ok so to get bleeding and deep wound costs 13 or whatever, I didnt check the adren so gimme a break lol. However whoa nelly 8 adrenalline for 1 thing thats not really good lol. See if you make your opponent bleed with 4 adren, that takes like 3 hits to get 4 adren, and 6 hits to get 8 adren, so basically you get em to bleed, and bleeding causes damage yes? Eviscrete sucks, oop i blocked it, you going to get 8 more adren? with low req adren you are given more chances, unlike wasting time to get a lot of adren to get all in 1, thats kinda like hammer damage, wastes time for a powerful blow. I say the best warrior elite skill is warrior endurance, that with sword or hammer warrior makes them WAY better than axe warriors. And for me bringing in riptoses, I never said that, I said they can COUNTER them. You know CANNOT BE BLOCKED. More sword skills can counter those skills. Because someone ALWAYS brings 75% to block or evade. Yeah if you read, higher req means more damage. so yep, those req 8 weapons are bad bad damage, feel sorry for ya, I just get em to sell lol. For real trust me, my warrior is lvl 20 and has been playing for 13 months, and I got a crystalline sword, in my 1st 2 months. Yeah I got 25 fame, its good enough to say A LOT!