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Teutonic Paladin · Sep 11, 2006, 11:32 AM // 11:32

I cannot kill the Tortured Spirits in the Underworld. Is there a Non-Elite skill of ANY profession that can allow me to dispatch these with ease?

Gonzo · Sep 11, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44

rend enchantment?

Numa Pompilius · Sep 11, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57

Yeah. Like Gonzo suggests, IW is an enchantment. Rend it, shatter it, inspire it, desecrate it, spinal shiver it or use any of the dozens of skills which removes enchants on it.

The Silver Star · Sep 11, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Desecrate does more damage if they are enchanted and doesnt remove an enchantment i belive. I may be wrong not on game atm.

Yakumo · Sep 11, 2006, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Silver Star

Desecrate does more damage if they are enchanted and doesnt remove an enchantment i belive. I may be wrong not on game atm.

You're correct.

Shai · Sep 11, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27

How can you not kill lvl 10s?

Angel Develin · Sep 11, 2006, 02:13 PM // 14:13

uhhhh what?? "how can you not kill lvl 10s?"

back on topic:
you can crippel or make them walk realy slowly and just stay out of mlee range if you don't have any enchantment remoe skill.

Shai · Sep 11, 2006, 02:22 PM // 14:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel Develin

uhhhh what?? "how can you not kill lvl 10s?"

back on topic:
you can crippel or make them walk realy slowly and just stay out of mlee range if you don't have any enchantment remoe skill.

Forgive me, lvl 15s.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Wrathful_Spirits

Zakarr · Sep 11, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

Some ghosts have either insane armor or health so level is not the main factor there.

Hollerith · Sep 11, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

These ghosts have low armor and are very easy to kill.

1 MS will trigger their IoW, throw in a Rodgort's Invo and they should be toast.

Teutonic Paladin · Sep 11, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37

I can't kill them because they are not hurt by Retribution, Holy Wrath, or Shield of Judgement.

-Meteor Shower is completely ineffective for reapeated use...
-Crippling does not KILL them
-Desecrate could work but it has a 15 second recharge

-Rend does not KILL them

-My friend suggested Price of Failure, 10 Second recharge, it could work.

Any other suggestions?

Hollerith · Sep 11, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

If you want to kill them with Retribution, Holy Wrath, and Shield of Judgement, you must remove the IW enchantment. Bring Chillblains or something.

And MS is effective for repeated use - you just need to plan for it. Try Glyph of Renewal.

falling demon · Sep 11, 2006, 05:43 PM // 17:43

if theres several, use chillblains, bye bye IW, then kill em normally

BladeDVD · Sep 11, 2006, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin

I can't kill them because they are not hurt by Retribution, Holy Wrath, or Shield of Judgement.

-Meteor Shower is completely ineffective for reapeated use...
-Crippling does not KILL them
-Desecrate could work but it has a 15 second recharge
-Rend does not KILL them

-My friend suggested Price of Failure, 10 Second recharge, it could work.

Any other suggestions?

I too would recommend some kind of enchantment removal, but to make Desecrate Enchantments possibly work, you could bring 2 (Defile Enchantments is the Factions duplicate of this spell) and equip a 20% recharge offhand focus.

Not familiar with the area, so not sure if it would be that effective ultimately.

kg_lildude1 · Sep 11, 2006, 06:59 PM // 18:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin

I can't kill them because they are not hurt by Retribution, Holy Wrath, or Shield of Judgement.

-Meteor Shower is completely ineffective for reapeated use...
-Crippling does not KILL them
-Desecrate could work but it has a 15 second recharge

-Rend does not KILL them

-My friend suggested Price of Failure, 10 Second recharge, it could work.

Any other suggestions?

that won't work because iw is not melee attacks, you will always hit, even if your blind

Hollerith · Sep 11, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Actually, IW attacks always miss. That's why Retri/Wrath/SoJ isn't going off. Price of Failure would result in all attacks triggering the damage.

Teutonic Paladin · Sep 11, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

"And MS is effective for repeated use - you just need to plan for it. Try Glyph of Renewal."

If I had room for two skills and an Elite, I would be using SS + Arcane Echo.

I'm testing Price of Failure at the moment, I'll be posting results in a few seconds if anyone cares.

achilles ankle · Sep 11, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Not sure if i understand the post, are u trying to kill them alone? 2man or with an entire group. If your alone idk but kudos to you for getting that far, 2 man have the necro bring a dis-enchant like chiblings and if your with a group.....idk how you cant kill them lol.

lennymon · Sep 11, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43

they're a pain solo. if you're going necro the above poster who suggested chillblains is probably going to be closest to the most efficient single skill solution as it can clear from an entire group allowing them to all die from SoJ. You may have to wait for energy recharge in between groups I'd imagine though. Good luck on it though, I've even been on 3 trapper runs and have had some trouble with these guys sometimes.

EagleEye33 · Sep 11, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Traps

muahaha, I luv my ranger :P

Sep 11, 2006, 11:32 AM // 11:32	#1
Teutonic Paladin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: TW Profession: W/	Anti-Illusionary Weaponry I cannot kill the Tortured Spirits in the Underworld. Is there a Non-Elite skill of ANY profession that can allow me to dispatch these with ease?

Sep 11, 2006, 07:02 PM // 19:02	#16
Hollerith Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005	Actually, IW attacks always miss. That's why Retri/Wrath/SoJ isn't going off. Price of Failure would result in all attacks triggering the damage. Last edited by Hollerith; Sep 11, 2006 at 07:04 PM // 19:04..

Sep 11, 2006, 11:44 AM // 11:44	#2
Gonzo Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Netherlands Guild: Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB] Profession: W/	rend enchantment?

Sep 11, 2006, 11:57 AM // 11:57	#3
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Yeah. Like Gonzo suggests, IW is an enchantment. Rend it, shatter it, inspire it, desecrate it, spinal shiver it or use any of the dozens of skills which removes enchants on it.

Sep 11, 2006, 12:27 PM // 12:27	#4
The Silver Star Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: UK, Scotland Guild: Il Guild Name Il Profession: W/	Desecrate does more damage if they are enchanted and doesnt remove an enchantment i belive. I may be wrong not on game atm.

Sep 11, 2006, 01:27 PM // 13:27	#6
Shai Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Durance of Fate Profession: N/Mo	How can you not kill lvl 10s?

Sep 11, 2006, 02:13 PM // 14:13	#7
Angel Develin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lions Arch Guild: Minions of Kronos Profession: N/Me	uhhhh what?? "how can you not kill lvl 10s?" back on topic: you can crippel or make them walk realy slowly and just stay out of mlee range if you don't have any enchantment remoe skill.

Sep 11, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37	#9
Zakarr Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland	Some ghosts have either insane armor or health so level is not the main factor there.

Sep 11, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03	#10
Hollerith Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005	These ghosts have low armor and are very easy to kill. 1 MS will trigger their IoW, throw in a Rodgort's Invo and they should be toast.

Sep 11, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37	#11
Teutonic Paladin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: TW Profession: W/	I can't kill them because they are not hurt by Retribution, Holy Wrath, or Shield of Judgement. -Meteor Shower is completely ineffective for reapeated use... -Crippling does not KILL them -Desecrate could work but it has a 15 second recharge -Rend does not KILL them -My friend suggested Price of Failure, 10 Second recharge, it could work. Any other suggestions?

Sep 11, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42	#12
Hollerith Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Sep 2005	If you want to kill them with Retribution, Holy Wrath, and Shield of Judgement, you must remove the IW enchantment. Bring Chillblains or something. And MS is effective for repeated use - you just need to plan for it. Try Glyph of Renewal.

Sep 11, 2006, 05:43 PM // 17:43	#13
falling demon Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: dunno Guild: Dawn's Omen {Leader} Profession: W/Mo	if theres several, use chillblains, bye bye IW, then kill em normally

Sep 11, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59	#17
Teutonic Paladin Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Feb 2006 Guild: TW Profession: W/	"And MS is effective for repeated use - you just need to plan for it. Try Glyph of Renewal." If I had room for two skills and an Elite, I would be using SS + Arcane Echo. I'm testing Price of Failure at the moment, I'll be posting results in a few seconds if anyone cares.

Sep 11, 2006, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#18
achilles ankle Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Guild: The Primevil Spartans Profession: A/	Not sure if i understand the post, are u trying to kill them alone? 2man or with an entire group. If your alone idk but kudos to you for getting that far, 2 man have the necro bring a dis-enchant like chiblings and if your with a group.....idk how you cant kill them lol.

Sep 11, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43	#19
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	they're a pain solo. if you're going necro the above poster who suggested chillblains is probably going to be closest to the most efficient single skill solution as it can clear from an entire group allowing them to all die from SoJ. You may have to wait for energy recharge in between groups I'd imagine though. Good luck on it though, I've even been on 3 trapper runs and have had some trouble with these guys sometimes.

Sep 11, 2006, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#20
EagleEye33 Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a House...duh Guild: Untouchable Heroes Profession: R/E	Traps muahaha, I luv my ranger :P