Killed u man · Jan 09, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

As a reply to to the now locked thread about LS + LDoA in Q/A section I would like to say this:

IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET LS + LDoA legally...

Was anyway... These are the possible (Legal) ways one could have obtained both (Don't quote me on the data of fix please, I'm just giving the datum if which I THINK it was fixed):

1) (Confirmed by me)
In the early days, one would rez automaticly at the shrine, if the other team member used/didn't have a rez signet... (Even if he was alive), so one would be able to deathlevel someone else. However, I'm not sure if anyone did it, seeing there was NO point in doing it back than. (Neither LDoA or LS excisted)
This means that if someone was aware that both titles were going to come in a future update, he could ask a friend to level him to lvl 19, 99%, and then when both titles are introduced, accept 1 quest reward to get LS+LDoA...
This got fixed about one month after GW.

2) (Unconfirmed by me, but I think it's listen in Wiki Talk somewhere + I know some people who confirmed it themselves)
Untill a few weeks after GW release (The real one), one would get 10 experience every time he completed the "Farmed Dirk and his retarded Price-Hogs"-quest... This quest took about 5 minutes, in which you would have to get 4-5 hogs in a small area. On completion, one would get a "hidden" 10 experience (Only saw the experience go up, but no actual "emote" (The one you get after raising exp)) and 10 gold.
This got fixed about one month after GW. (There is a player-guide somewhere, player-written, which CLREALY states the 10 exp reward. Obviously, this wasn't a big deal seeing noone really understand the "power" of repeatable quests back then.)

3) (Confirmed by me)
There was a glitch in the "Rites of Rememberance" quest. The "reward" for this quest worked differently than every other quest in the game. One would actually recieve the experience RIGHT BEFORE THE ACTUAL "REWARD". As in, if you were able to somehow "postpone" the conditions to accept the reward, you would still be able to get experience. Now this problem was easily solved by talking to her when having a full inventory. One could click the accept button, get the experience, followed by the message "You currently don't have enough room to accept the item, bla bla bla". Than, simply rezone, abandon quest, and redo it

I have NO clue when this got fixed, but I think this wasn't too long ago...

So IF you ever find someone with both titles, don't call him a "glitcher". Sure, these ways arent "fully" legal, but than again, there is enough people that "abused" shadowstepping pre-nerf, Grenth's Balance, etc...

Alexandra-Sweet · Jan 09, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49

Just PM the guy who made the thread, no need to make a new thread about it.

Killed u man · Jan 09, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00

I made this thread because there already have been douzans of other threats involving this issue

Pm'ing the one guy would simply lead to the next guy posting his idea on "idea to get LS + LDoA"

I hope this will make it clear to people that atm there is NO way to get LS + LDoA anymore, seeing all these are fixed

lakatz · Jan 09, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Hi Killed U Man...

Thanks for posting this information. It's an interesting history lesson.

I'm having trouble, though, seeing how one could get both titles with these conditions if they were fixed long before the titles existed. But then again, I was shocked to see mini pets in pre last night until I figured out that some could have been birthday gifts for perma-pre residents.

Killed u man · Jan 09, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Well, I knwo for a fact that the one with Rites or Rememeberance was available LONG after the title update... No-one knew about it, tough.
As for the other 2: If people were "dumb" enough to waste 1000 hours going afk to reach lvl 20 in Pre-Searing, which wasn't even a title back than, well, it isn't to hard to imagine someone got it with the idea of keeping his /deaths counter clean...

HawkofStorms · Jan 09, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Yeah... but isn't this still REALLY unlikely. Titles weren't introduced until Factions and prior to that and the LDoA I'd only heard of like 3 people actually trying to get to lvl 20 in presearing on there own.

Killed u man · Jan 09, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Unlikely, not impossible. AND, please read my posts, The Rites of Rememberance "glitch" was available LONG after introducing titles...

Sirius-NZ · Jan 09, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52

Making new threads to respond to closed ones can be against board policy. Be careful.

pablo24 · Jan 09, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54

There is also still a way to get it legally. I won't post how to do it though.

Tom Swift · Jan 09, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius-NZ

Making new threads to respond to closed ones can be against board policy. Be careful.

In this case, however, he is making a legitimate point that there have been ways to do this in the past (whether anyone did or not is another question) so we should not automatically assume that someone has cheated if we ever see someone with both titles. (although, again it seems unlikely)

I think that is a valid enough point that just changing the title of the thread would be better than actually closing it.

~ Dan ~ · Jan 09, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

Well as it was discussed and confirmed in the closed thread that it's impossible without exploiting a now fixed glitch, what do you think?

Neo Nugget · Jan 09, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43

Please don't bring up closed threads.

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Jan 09, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40	#1
Killed u man Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006	Reply to closed thread on LS + LDoA in Q/A. As a reply to to the now locked thread about LS + LDoA in Q/A section I would like to say this: IT IS POSSIBLE TO GET LS + LDoA legally... Was anyway... These are the possible (Legal) ways one could have obtained both (Don't quote me on the data of fix please, I'm just giving the datum if which I THINK it was fixed): 1) (Confirmed by me) In the early days, one would rez automaticly at the shrine, if the other team member used/didn't have a rez signet... (Even if he was alive), so one would be able to deathlevel someone else. However, I'm not sure if anyone did it, seeing there was NO point in doing it back than. (Neither LDoA or LS excisted) This means that if someone was aware that both titles were going to come in a future update, he could ask a friend to level him to lvl 19, 99%, and then when both titles are introduced, accept 1 quest reward to get LS+LDoA... This got fixed about one month after GW. 2) (Unconfirmed by me, but I think it's listen in Wiki Talk somewhere + I know some people who confirmed it themselves) Untill a few weeks after GW release (The real one), one would get 10 experience every time he completed the "Farmed Dirk and his retarded Price-Hogs"-quest... This quest took about 5 minutes, in which you would have to get 4-5 hogs in a small area. On completion, one would get a "hidden" 10 experience (Only saw the experience go up, but no actual "emote" (The one you get after raising exp)) and 10 gold. This got fixed about one month after GW. (There is a player-guide somewhere, player-written, which CLREALY states the 10 exp reward. Obviously, this wasn't a big deal seeing noone really understand the "power" of repeatable quests back then.) 3) (Confirmed by me) There was a glitch in the "Rites of Rememberance" quest. The "reward" for this quest worked differently than every other quest in the game. One would actually recieve the experience RIGHT BEFORE THE ACTUAL "REWARD". As in, if you were able to somehow "postpone" the conditions to accept the reward, you would still be able to get experience. Now this problem was easily solved by talking to her when having a full inventory. One could click the accept button, get the experience, followed by the message "You currently don't have enough room to accept the item, bla bla bla". Than, simply rezone, abandon quest, and redo it I have NO clue when this got fixed, but I think this wasn't too long ago... So IF you ever find someone with both titles, don't call him a "glitcher". Sure, these ways arent "fully" legal, but than again, there is enough people that "abused" shadowstepping pre-nerf, Grenth's Balance, etc... Last edited by Killed u man; Jan 09, 2008 at 09:00 PM // 21:00..

Jan 09, 2008, 10:43 PM // 22:43	#12
Neo Nugget Site Contributor Join Date: Jan 2006 Profession: R/	Please don't bring up closed threads. ====closed==== __________________ "Even if the morrow is barren of promises, nothing shall forestall my return."

Jan 09, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49	#2
Alexandra-Sweet Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: That one place with the trees, mountains and snow Guild: Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP] Profession: Me/	Just PM the guy who made the thread, no need to make a new thread about it.

Jan 09, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00	#3
Killed u man Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006	I made this thread because there already have been douzans of other threats involving this issue Pm'ing the one guy would simply lead to the next guy posting his idea on "idea to get LS + LDoA" I hope this will make it clear to people that atm there is NO way to get LS + LDoA anymore, seeing all these are fixed

Jan 09, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06	#4
lakatz Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2006	Hi Killed U Man... Thanks for posting this information. It's an interesting history lesson. I'm having trouble, though, seeing how one could get both titles with these conditions if they were fixed long before the titles existed. But then again, I was shocked to see mini pets in pre last night until I figured out that some could have been birthday gifts for perma-pre residents.

Jan 09, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14	#5
Killed u man Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006	Well, I knwo for a fact that the one with Rites or Rememeberance was available LONG after the title update... No-one knew about it, tough. As for the other 2: If people were "dumb" enough to waste 1000 hours going afk to reach lvl 20 in Pre-Searing, which wasn't even a title back than, well, it isn't to hard to imagine someone got it with the idea of keeping his /deaths counter clean...

Jan 09, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16	#6
HawkofStorms Hall Hero Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: E/	Yeah... but isn't this still REALLY unlikely. Titles weren't introduced until Factions and prior to that and the LDoA I'd only heard of like 3 people actually trying to get to lvl 20 in presearing on there own.

Jan 09, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44	#7
Killed u man Forge Runner Join Date: Feb 2006	Unlikely, not impossible. AND, please read my posts, The Rites of Rememberance "glitch" was available LONG after introducing titles...

Jan 09, 2008, 09:52 PM // 21:52	#8
Sirius-NZ Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bellevue, WA (I know ... but I moved out of NZ) Guild: Xen of Onslaught Profession: D/	Making new threads to respond to closed ones can be against board policy. Be careful.

Jan 09, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54	#9
pablo24 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007	There is also still a way to get it legally. I won't post how to do it though.

Jan 09, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39	#11
~ Dan ~ Forge Runner Join Date: Dec 2006 Profession: D/	Well as it was discussed and confirmed in the closed thread that it's impossible without exploiting a now fixed glitch, what do you think?