Mend Condition Vs. Mend Ailment - Guild Wars Forums

Sir Tidus · Apr 03, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Mend Condition Vs. Mend Ailment, which is better for general PvE? Mend condition recharges in 2 seconds so it can cover almost all the conditions of the party (right?). However, mend condition can't be used on the monk himself, so would this create a big problem? (there's a monk insignia that give +15 armor when suffering from a condition, so does that sort of counter it?) Mend Ailment on the other hand can be used on the monk himself, however it takes 5 seconds to recharge. Both condition removers have relatively similar healing effects. So which should I go with? Thanks in advance.

As a side note, I don't have NF or factions (people like to suggest me skills these two campaigns).

Darkobra · Apr 03, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00

Mend Ailment. If you get Daze on yourself and you have Mend Condition, you'll have to rely on the other monk to remove it.

RPGmaniac · Apr 03, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Mend Ailment because you can cast it on yourself.

Boogz · Apr 03, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07

mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't

Axel Zinfandel · Apr 03, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

I prefer Mend Condition, as it works fundamentally better then Ailment. It can never be sure there is a condition remaining for Ailment to come into effect.

That's for PvE though. Since Ailment works on yourself, I'd suggest it for PvP

Siirius Black · Apr 03, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

I will go with mend aliment for the reasons posted above

Tyla · Apr 04, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Mend Ailment. It can self-target.

If RC was in the mix, though, I would say that. Spammable all-condi skill which heals a sexy amount is nice...who cares about not self-targetting?? You can always bring another monk.

Sir Tidus · Apr 04, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

But what if you use Disciple's Insignia? It gives +15 AL if you are suffering from a condition. Wouldn't that sort of cancel out not being able to self-target?

Tyla · Apr 04, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Disciples Insignia won't save you from Dazed or Degeneration.

Darkobra · Apr 04, 2008, 04:40 AM // 04:40

Having 15 armour won't save you if you're heavily bleeding or being dazed. All it takes is one hit while dazed to stop you from healing yourself.

Racthoh · Apr 04, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Mend Ailment for nuke heals in areas with little blind, dazed, and weakness.

Mend Condition in areas where your physicals are going to be blind a lot, so you need a condition removal that recharges fast.

masta_yoda · Apr 04, 2008, 07:38 AM // 07:38

draw+ mend ailment , bring both imo

Patrick Smit · Apr 04, 2008, 07:50 AM // 07:50

That would be draw and mending touch u mean?, better take a necro with foul feast, plague sending/signet along then.

Thierry2 · Apr 04, 2008, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

Mend Ailment for nuke heals in areas with little blind, dazed, and weakness.

Mend Condition in areas where your physicals are going to be blind a lot, so you need a condition removal that recharges fast.

What he said.

Pyro maniac · Apr 04, 2008, 08:43 AM // 08:43

mend condition, the heal is sexy. get another monk who removes conditions of you.

Alex Morningstar · Apr 04, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

It's conditional, in my opinion. I usually pick mend condition because I do not find myself conditioned a lot, as I'm in the backline and don't see too many PvE red dots up close. It's quick, spamable, easy and cheap.

If you use Martyr or Draw Condition, Mend Ailment. Would be awesome for condition heavy areas I suppose. Generally I'm lazy and leave Mend Condition on anyway. There aren't too many situations in PvE where the conditions are so horrid that as long as you are watching your positioning, you shouldn't get too many (life threatening) instances of conditioning on you.

llsektorll · Apr 04, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38

dismiss ftw.....

if im monking for pve i'll usually bring mend condition.... ailment fails for recharge and cast..

MagmaRed · Apr 04, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogz

mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't

This sums it up perfectly.

Sir Tidus · Apr 04, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boogz

mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't

I'm actually talking about the hero Ogden Stonehealer. But nevertheless, if I don't have another monk in the party who can remove conditions, then I should use mend ailment? Is one mend ailment enough for the party?

creelie · Apr 05, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

Neither - Dismiss Condition is the best. I guess if you don't have access to Dismiss, Mend Ailment is better since you can use it on yourself. And don't use Disciple's Insignia - Survivor's is best.

Apr 03, 2008, 09:57 PM // 21:57	#1
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	Mend Condition Vs. Mend Ailment Mend Condition Vs. Mend Ailment, which is better for general PvE? Mend condition recharges in 2 seconds so it can cover almost all the conditions of the party (right?). However, mend condition can't be used on the monk himself, so would this create a big problem? (there's a monk insignia that give +15 armor when suffering from a condition, so does that sort of counter it?) Mend Ailment on the other hand can be used on the monk himself, however it takes 5 seconds to recharge. Both condition removers have relatively similar healing effects. So which should I go with? Thanks in advance. As a side note, I don't have NF or factions (people like to suggest me skills these two campaigns).

Apr 03, 2008, 10:00 PM // 22:00	#2
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Mend Ailment. If you get Daze on yourself and you have Mend Condition, you'll have to rely on the other monk to remove it.

Apr 03, 2008, 10:04 PM // 22:04	#3
RPGmaniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2005	Mend Ailment because you can cast it on yourself.

Apr 03, 2008, 10:07 PM // 22:07	#4
Boogz Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: Variable Speed Farmers[VsF] Profession: Mo/	mend condition if there is someone to remvoe the condition from yourself, mend aliment if there isn't

Apr 03, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21	#5
Axel Zinfandel Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northeastern Ohio Guild: LaZy Profession: P/W	I prefer Mend Condition, as it works fundamentally better then Ailment. It can never be sure there is a condition remaining for Ailment to come into effect. That's for PvE though. Since Ailment works on yourself, I'd suggest it for PvP

Apr 03, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24	#6
Siirius Black Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Dragon's Lair Guild: La Legion Del Dragon Profession: E/	I will go with mend aliment for the reasons posted above

Apr 04, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07	#7
Tyla Emo Goth Italics Join Date: Sep 2006	Mend Ailment. It can self-target. If RC was in the mix, though, I would say that. Spammable all-condi skill which heals a sexy amount is nice...who cares about not self-targetting?? You can always bring another monk.

Apr 04, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24	#8
Sir Tidus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2008	But what if you use Disciple's Insignia? It gives +15 AL if you are suffering from a condition. Wouldn't that sort of cancel out not being able to self-target?

Apr 04, 2008, 03:50 AM // 03:50	#9
Tyla Emo Goth Italics Join Date: Sep 2006	Disciples Insignia won't save you from Dazed or Degeneration.

Apr 04, 2008, 04:40 AM // 04:40	#10
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Having 15 armour won't save you if you're heavily bleeding or being dazed. All it takes is one hit while dazed to stop you from healing yourself.

Apr 04, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36	#11
Racthoh Did I hear 7 heroes? Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)	Mend Ailment for nuke heals in areas with little blind, dazed, and weakness. Mend Condition in areas where your physicals are going to be blind a lot, so you need a condition removal that recharges fast.

Apr 04, 2008, 07:38 AM // 07:38	#12
masta_yoda Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Guild: most hated players in the [game] Profession: R/Mo	draw+ mend ailment , bring both imo

Apr 04, 2008, 07:50 AM // 07:50	#13
Patrick Smit Jungle Guide Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: NiTe	That would be draw and mending touch u mean?, better take a necro with foul feast, plague sending/signet along then.

Apr 04, 2008, 08:43 AM // 08:43	#15
Pyro maniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	mend condition, the heal is sexy. get another monk who removes conditions of you.

Apr 04, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02	#16
Alex Morningstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Team Asshat [Hat] leader - [GR] Alliance Profession: Mo/	It's conditional, in my opinion. I usually pick mend condition because I do not find myself conditioned a lot, as I'm in the backline and don't see too many PvE red dots up close. It's quick, spamable, easy and cheap. If you use Martyr or Draw Condition, Mend Ailment. Would be awesome for condition heavy areas I suppose. Generally I'm lazy and leave Mend Condition on anyway. There aren't too many situations in PvE where the conditions are so horrid that as long as you are watching your positioning, you shouldn't get too many (life threatening) instances of conditioning on you.

Apr 04, 2008, 04:38 PM // 16:38	#17
llsektorll Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Profession: R/	dismiss ftw..... if im monking for pve i'll usually bring mend condition.... ailment fails for recharge and cast..

Apr 05, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47	#20
creelie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Alberta Guild: Charter Vanguard [CV] Profession: Mo/	Neither - Dismiss Condition is the best. I guess if you don't have access to Dismiss, Mend Ailment is better since you can use it on yourself. And don't use Disciple's Insignia - Survivor's is best.