A Guild For Runners? - Guild Wars Forums

Kamor The Derv · Sep 22, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59

I have heard about The Blue Academy (a guild of runners) and read that it has been disbanded. I really wanted to join them but since they disbanded, I am thinking about making my own guild for runners. But first, I have to know what you guys think. Just to say this more clearly. I would really like to make a guild for honest runners so that we can be recognized throughout the game.

1) Is this a good idea? If yes, why? If no, why not?
2) How many of you WOULD join this guild if i made it.
3) If you think this is a good idea. what would be some good names of a guild like this?

Thank You.

beserk · Sep 22, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07

1) yes - because if you become a recognised guild of pro runners, then your services are trusted and people can rely on you to get the job done.

No - puts other potential runners (not in the guild) out of business.

2) No comment

3) [WRBW] We Run for Bread and Water.

White Lies · Sep 22, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

1) a guild for runners as a brilliant idea because of the reasons posted above, but you would have to set up a fairly open forum and spread that foum so people know whos running what and when. You would then have to have a section with the running places with the names of the runners, running at what times, ect, but also with a competitve price so people use your guild for running. The larger the variety of runs the more customers you will get (by veriety i mean mission runs, area runs, dongeons... anything that can be run basicaly :P)

2) cant join am not a runner

3)No ideas for a name yet, but i will edit if i think of one

Its a brilliant idea, but the initial setup may be long and hard, and i would get some runners together before you actually go out and create guild.

I hope to hear more about this soon

~Lies

Sindy · Sep 22, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35

If you are starting by recruiting outside runners ( and even if you start with good friends, this is pertinent later down the road) a few things to consider:

You are trying to make an inherently risky venture into something your guild is known for. As such, your Rep will be worth more than anything. Make sure your runners screen cap their jobs with names and who paid. Make sure you have a forum where run-ees can tell you who is doing their job and who is not.

As the leader of this guild, you will need to take swift action to squash any scam runners who make it into your guild. Check on their history if possible, and make sure your customers are above all happy. It will be a hindrance when you are big,,,it will kill the guild in the early stages.

Best of luck

the savage nornbear · Sep 22, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

If you fail, the run is free.
If you need help from the run-ees, either discount or free.

Those are two things that frustrate me when getting a run.

dilan155 · Sep 22, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35

1. it does give you a more trusted customer when you become known.
2. dont run so no from me
3. cant think of one ill eidit if i come up with one
*the first step is going to be very hard, as not many will join, after that things will get easier but will still eb hard. you need to be able to get people to know your guild as well as keeping your customers happy, that should be your first concern. so if you do decide to make one GL.

DarkFlame · Sep 22, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Lies

Its a brilliant idea, but the initial setup may be long and hard, and i would get some runners together before you actually go out and create guild.

^That. Find some runners and pitch the idea beforehand. No sense in going through the motions if no one is willing to leave their current guilds/sign up with yours.

But as Sindy mentions, you're also gonna need a lengthy application and trial process for your guild. And then the ability to monitor your members, trusted officers to help and multiple accounts to do surprise checks some of the more questionable guildmates. Not really worth the hassle, at this late stage of the game, if you ask me.

Kamor The Derv · Sep 23, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35

Thankz a lot for these tips you guys. I was thinking maybe i can make a GW wiki page so that more customers would know at which forum to report any scammers. I know that this will take a lot of work in becomming whole and recognited, but i will do it!

I had this idea to also interview many runners in the game to see if they would join. Or to listen to what they think

I have one question though: Does anyone know any good forums? An easy one. Since i would want anyone to be able to post on it, it be better if there is a forum that s easy to sign up with, or where u dont need to sign up at all.

Thankz again for these tips guys. Now i am one step further in making this guild! Know i am SURE i want to do this. Even though i will have ti do a lot of advertising before i even create the guild.

_Nihilist_ · Sep 23, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

Guild Name Suggestions:

> WTF Who Aggroed[RUN]

> Yellow Cab Service[TAXI]

> We Brake For[LFR]

> RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO[RED]

Just a few thoughts for comical names that might get your point across. I'll Edit and add any if I think of more.

Rothen Kithkanan · Sep 23, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

only problem you may have is the fact that there are already established running guilds out there [RR]. Check the services section for their thread.

here''s a linky

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10253229

Lykan · Sep 23, 2008, 10:55 AM // 10:55

The Blue Academy wasnt just a guild of runners, they were an Academy.
They didnt recruit any odd joe out of Kamadan, they vetted and trained each member, and didnt let them run until they proved themselves. Only then were they allowed to run and charge the prices they set and use the certificate to show they are good.

If you're goin to do it you have to do it right.

It's no point creating a guild of crap runners. Are you going to personally vet every one who wants to join? Go on every run they claim they can make to prove themselves? Will you accept trainees? Set up standard pricing for all memebers to charge?
It's not going to be easy to get famous unless you have the best players.

Kamor The Derv · Sep 23, 2008, 01:37 PM // 13:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykan

The Blue Academy wasnt just a guild of runners, they were an Academy.
They didnt recruit any odd joe out of Kamadan
It's not going to be easy to get famous unless you have the best players.

I Know that The Blue Academy was an Academy. But that is not what i want, I DOnt want an academy where I MAKE money from training runners, and then they leave. I want to make a guild, with professional runners, a stable guild, NOT an academy, where people come and go, when they finish their training.

And actually, what i had in mind for recruitment is, going into a city and ask any runner if he would like to join a guild for runners. If the runner accepts, i woul OF COURSE first test him/her on the run he/she claims to be able to run.
But thankz for the tip anyway

Now back to the initial discussion. I love the Yellow Cab Serive (TAXI) as a guild name. Thankz for that name. I also like the tag (RUN) but not really the name you posted with it

ANd could someone plz answer my question? Does anybody know any good, easy to sign up, forums? Or maybe a forum where you don't have to sign up at all?
I am thinking about how to create a scam free system or a sytem were customers can report runners that scam. If any of you have an idea about any sytem, plz feel free to share

Kamor The Derv · Sep 23, 2008, 01:46 PM // 13:46

I forgot to ask one question

if I do go though with this Guild For Runners idea, what would be the best way to let the runners charge? SHould it be like a fixed price per run, so that if there is one person, that person pays more than if there were 4 people. OR is it better to charge per person? but then we would have to wait for a full party.

OR is it better to let the customer choose?

Kamor The Derv · Sep 23, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Come on guys. I need you to post a couple of more tips. I need a little bit more help and then i will get this guild going.I will probably start this guild on Friday, if not sooner. I need a couple of your tips/optinions more and i will get this guild flying as high as a plane. I know many of you think this will be hard/impossible... but i really want to do this... and i can do whatever I put on my mind (sometimes)

Zapper901 · Sep 23, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Don't double post, and especially don't tripple post. Use edit.

Have set prices per party for each run, IMO.

Snow Bunny · Sep 23, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Shadowform negates such a demand for runners.

Solas · Sep 23, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Aye,best to get a few runners together first.
Have to get the size right though, doubt you'd have 5 or more full time runners, proberly maybe 2 offhand ones.Also make sure they can run.

If there is really a demand for runners still then i guess you could expand it a bit.

You should check out the services forums so you can decide on how to make your Origional Post, If you will be advertising in the forums. As a good introduction will be a benifit.
gl

Btw is it location to location runs or missions and dungeons or both?

pamelf · Sep 24, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Will you be standardizing your prices? Or will each member charge what they want?

Luminarus · Sep 24, 2008, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Most runners nowadays do it as a form of making money. They arent going to join a guild just to run because those people who do run want to have a guild that does things other then running for when they arent trying to make money.

I personally dont think it will work.
Secondly, I wouldnt join even if i did still do runs

Just my opinion.

Kamor The Derv · Sep 24, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

I will sadly have to agree with his point. And even if i wouldn't agree with him... some of these posts are just too depressing and i don't want to make this guild anymore.

unless any of you COMPLETELY DISAGREE with me... and REALLY want me to create this guild, I will not continue to do this.
(hope that many of you want me to REALLY make this guild

)

If not, I guess this is the end!

Sep 22, 2008, 03:59 PM // 15:59	#1
Kamor The Derv Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: DOFA Profession: D/	A Guild For Runners? I have heard about The Blue Academy (a guild of runners) and read that it has been disbanded. I really wanted to join them but since they disbanded, I am thinking about making my own guild for runners. But first, I have to know what you guys think. Just to say this more clearly. I would really like to make a guild for honest runners so that we can be recognized throughout the game. 1) Is this a good idea? If yes, why? If no, why not? 2) How many of you WOULD join this guild if i made it. 3) If you think this is a good idea. what would be some good names of a guild like this? Thank You.

Sep 23, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35	#8
Kamor The Derv Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: DOFA Profession: D/	One Step Further Thankz a lot for these tips you guys. I was thinking maybe i can make a GW wiki page so that more customers would know at which forum to report any scammers. I know that this will take a lot of work in becomming whole and recognited, but i will do it! I had this idea to also interview many runners in the game to see if they would join. Or to listen to what they think I have one question though: Does anyone know any good forums? An easy one. Since i would want anyone to be able to post on it, it be better if there is a forum that s easy to sign up with, or where u dont need to sign up at all. Thankz again for these tips guys. Now i am one step further in making this guild! Know i am SURE i want to do this. Even though i will have ti do a lot of advertising before i even create the guild.

Sep 23, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07	#9
_Nihilist_ Will Bull's Strike for $! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Isle of the Dead	Guild Name Suggestions: > WTF Who Aggroed[RUN] > Yellow Cab Service[TAXI] > We Brake For[LFR] > RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO[RED] Just a few thoughts for comical names that might get your point across. I'll Edit and add any if I think of more. Last edited by _Nihilist_; Sep 23, 2008 at 05:15 AM // 05:15..

Sep 23, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40	#10
Rothen Kithkanan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Between a rock and a hard place Guild: Pah, who needs guilds? Profession: E/	only problem you may have is the fact that there are already established running guilds out there [RR]. Check the services section for their thread. here''s a linky http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10253229 Last edited by Rothen Kithkanan; Sep 23, 2008 at 06:48 AM // 06:48..

Sep 23, 2008, 10:55 AM // 10:55	#11
Lykan Forge Runner Join Date: May 2005 Guild: StP Profession: R/	The Blue Academy wasnt just a guild of runners, they were an Academy. They didnt recruit any odd joe out of Kamadan, they vetted and trained each member, and didnt let them run until they proved themselves. Only then were they allowed to run and charge the prices they set and use the certificate to show they are good. If you're goin to do it you have to do it right. It's no point creating a guild of crap runners. Are you going to personally vet every one who wants to join? Go on every run they claim they can make to prove themselves? Will you accept trainees? Set up standard pricing for all memebers to charge? It's not going to be easy to get famous unless you have the best players. Last edited by Lykan; Sep 23, 2008 at 11:00 AM // 11:00..

Sep 22, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07	#2
beserk Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Profession: W/	1) yes - because if you become a recognised guild of pro runners, then your services are trusted and people can rely on you to get the job done. No - puts other potential runners (not in the guild) out of business. 2) No comment 3) [WRBW] We Run for Bread and Water.

Sep 22, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19	#3
White Lies Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Feb 2007	1) a guild for runners as a brilliant idea because of the reasons posted above, but you would have to set up a fairly open forum and spread that foum so people know whos running what and when. You would then have to have a section with the running places with the names of the runners, running at what times, ect, but also with a competitve price so people use your guild for running. The larger the variety of runs the more customers you will get (by veriety i mean mission runs, area runs, dongeons... anything that can be run basicaly :P) 2) cant join am not a runner 3)No ideas for a name yet, but i will edit if i think of one Its a brilliant idea, but the initial setup may be long and hard, and i would get some runners together before you actually go out and create guild. I hope to hear more about this soon ~Lies

Sep 22, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35	#4
Sindy Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: E/	If you are starting by recruiting outside runners ( and even if you start with good friends, this is pertinent later down the road) a few things to consider: You are trying to make an inherently risky venture into something your guild is known for. As such, your Rep will be worth more than anything. Make sure your runners screen cap their jobs with names and who paid. Make sure you have a forum where run-ees can tell you who is doing their job and who is not. As the leader of this guild, you will need to take swift action to squash any scam runners who make it into your guild. Check on their history if possible, and make sure your customers are above all happy. It will be a hindrance when you are big,,,it will kill the guild in the early stages. Best of luck

Sep 22, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22	#5
the savage nornbear Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2008 Guild: The Raging Cadavers [rage] Profession: R/	If you fail, the run is free. If you need help from the run-ees, either discount or free. Those are two things that frustrate me when getting a run.

Sep 22, 2008, 09:35 PM // 21:35	#6
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	1. it does give you a more trusted customer when you become known. 2. dont run so no from me 3. cant think of one ill eidit if i come up with one *the first step is going to be very hard, as not many will join, after that things will get easier but will still eb hard. you need to be able to get people to know your guild as well as keeping your customers happy, that should be your first concern. so if you do decide to make one GL.

Sep 23, 2008, 01:46 PM // 13:46	#13
Kamor The Derv Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: DOFA Profession: D/	I forgot to ask one question if I do go though with this Guild For Runners idea, what would be the best way to let the runners charge? SHould it be like a fixed price per run, so that if there is one person, that person pays more than if there were 4 people. OR is it better to charge per person? but then we would have to wait for a full party. OR is it better to let the customer choose?

Sep 23, 2008, 04:05 PM // 16:05	#14
Kamor The Derv Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: DOFA Profession: D/	Come on guys. I need you to post a couple of more tips. I need a little bit more help and then i will get this guild going.I will probably start this guild on Friday, if not sooner. I need a couple of your tips/optinions more and i will get this guild flying as high as a plane. I know many of you think this will be hard/impossible... but i really want to do this... and i can do whatever I put on my mind (sometimes)

Sep 23, 2008, 04:28 PM // 16:28	#15
Zapper901 Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Fire and [ICE] Profession: W/	Don't double post, and especially don't tripple post. Use edit. Have set prices per party for each run, IMO.

Sep 23, 2008, 08:36 PM // 20:36	#16
Snow Bunny Alcoholic From Yale Join Date: Jul 2007 Guild: Strong Foreign Policy [sFp]	Shadowform negates such a demand for runners.

Sep 23, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15	#17
Solas Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ireland Guild: Currently LF Active HA Guild, Glad 2, Comm.3, R2 Profession: E/	Aye,best to get a few runners together first. Have to get the size right though, doubt you'd have 5 or more full time runners, proberly maybe 2 offhand ones.Also make sure they can run. If there is really a demand for runners still then i guess you could expand it a bit. You should check out the services forums so you can decide on how to make your Origional Post, If you will be advertising in the forums. As a good introduction will be a benifit. gl Btw is it location to location runs or missions and dungeons or both?

Sep 24, 2008, 05:36 AM // 05:36	#18
pamelf Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Lost Templars [LoTe] Profession: Me/Mo	Will you be standardizing your prices? Or will each member charge what they want?

Sep 24, 2008, 06:10 AM // 06:10	#19
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Most runners nowadays do it as a form of making money. They arent going to join a guild just to run because those people who do run want to have a guild that does things other then running for when they arent trying to make money. I personally dont think it will work. Secondly, I wouldnt join even if i did still do runs Just my opinion.

Sep 24, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11	#20
Kamor The Derv Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Sep 2008 Guild: DOFA Profession: D/	I will sadly have to agree with his point. And even if i wouldn't agree with him... some of these posts are just too depressing and i don't want to make this guild anymore. unless any of you COMPLETELY DISAGREE with me... and REALLY want me to create this guild, I will not continue to do this. (hope that many of you want me to REALLY make this guild ) If not, I guess this is the end!