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pinkeyflower · Feb 05, 2010, 08:16 AM // 08:16

I read the EULA (make that skimmed it). Anyway, I didn't find any mention of the 'legality' of account sharing. Am I infringing on the EULA if I share my account with someone else?

By the way, I don't share my account but I was just wondering.

Bob Slydell · Feb 05, 2010, 08:27 AM // 08:27

It is against the EULA to share accounts. I can only think they do this so that they don't get flooded support tickets involving things like (my friend got my acct banned, my friend stole this, my friend did that...on my account) etc.. they want you to be responsible for your own account.

Note though, they would never know you shared accounts...ever..unless you or your friend admitted that you did in game, and then if someone were to report it..you'd be hit with a ban.

Hope that answers your question.

pinkeyflower · Feb 05, 2010, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Thanks. That answers my question completely.

Xenex Xclame · Feb 05, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...-agreement.php

Section 4a part 2:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Wars User Agreement

4. ACCOUNT

(a) Eligibility. Accounts are available only to adult individuals 18 years of age or older. If you are less than 18 years of age and wish to use the Service, your parent(s) or guardian(s) must complete the registration process, open an Account in their name(s) and accept full responsibility for all obligations under this Agreement. Those who have completed these steps and who maintain their Account in good standing are sometimes referred to in this Agreement as "Members."

By accepting the terms of use in the Agreement, Members represent that you are an adult 18 years of age or older. Only one person may use an Account. The registered user of an Account may use the Account or may choose instead to permit a minor child of the registered user to use the Account. You are liable for all activities conducted through your Account, and parents or guardians are liable for all activities of their minor child conducted through the Account.

Like bob said, the rule is mostly to save them a lott of trouble.

Here is something ineresting in the user agreement.
Secton 7:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guild Wars User Agreement

You may not sell or auction any Game(s) accounts, characters, items, coin or copyrighted material, nor may you assist others in doing so.

According to that line GWG is helping out members break a rule, by allowing us to auction off our weapons here in guru.

TheRaven · Feb 05, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16

No, GWG doesn't auction off items for real cash which is how I read that rule. Selling items for ingame gold is perfectly fine and obviously supported by A-net or we wouldn't have a trade chat and trade window.

Xenex Xclame · Feb 05, 2010, 11:56 AM // 11:56

That may be true, but it doesnt talk about real world cash or in game cash.It just says auctioning them is not allowed.

Hyperventilate · Feb 05, 2010, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

According to that line GWG is helping out members break a rule, by allowing us to auction off our weapons here in guru.

That part pertains about real-world auctions and such. Not in-game or valid item-for-game-money auctions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame

That may be true, but it doesnt talk about real world cash or in game cash.It just says auctioning them is not allowed.

It also says you can't sell items. The trade window is illegal now? I can sell my items for gold.

Every time I use the trade tab, I'm running the risk of breaking the rules?

Use common sense here. If they were talking about IN GAME, they wouldn't have provided a way to SELL your items in the game.

Kattar · Feb 05, 2010, 12:35 PM // 12:35

Guru only provides a platform for buyers to find sellers and vice versa. No EULA breaking involved.

Don't you think, especially with all the activity from NCsoft staff on this forum, they would have come down on us like a ton of bricks if we were doing something wrong?

Anyway, that's all off topic.

Stop The Storm · Feb 05, 2010, 01:02 PM // 13:02

i dont think hes saying that what guru is doing is against the eula, but the way its worded and lack of "real cash" in the sentance doesnt quite specify what is and what isnt allowed.

it just says you cant auction items and you cant assist in doing so either, so players and gwg are breaking the eula according to that (we know really we aint, its just badly worded)

Xenex Xclame · Feb 05, 2010, 01:34 PM // 13:34

Yes what Stop The Storm said, badly worded.

The same that we are used to from Anet.

Removes negative conditions,wtf?! where are the positive conditions

Hyperventilate · Feb 05, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34

I agree it's worded poorly. But, think about it. No trading of items? How else are you going to trade for other items in game? "I'll give you 100k for your unded mini gwen."
"Okay."
*Perma ban*

What? Really now.

But, it's been clarified, so it's all good. I think OP's question was answered, too.

TheRaven · Feb 05, 2010, 10:46 PM // 22:46

Yeah, I think when they said you can't auction an ingame item they were thinking specifically of Ebay. I used to see a lot of ingame weapons listed there for $5 or $10 or more for especially rare items (No I didn't buy any), but Ebay cleaned it all out about a year or 2 ago.

I guess when they wrote the Eula they weren't imagining that fansites would start listing auctions for ingame gold so it was poorly worded. Nowadays we have several nice sites that take the place of an ingame auction house. The only trouble is trying to meet up with the buyers ingame. Especially if the buyer and seller are 10 time zones away from each other.

Feb 05, 2010, 08:16 AM // 08:16	#1
pinkeyflower Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010	Gw eula I read the EULA (make that skimmed it). Anyway, I didn't find any mention of the 'legality' of account sharing. Am I infringing on the EULA if I share my account with someone else? By the way, I don't share my account but I was just wondering.

Feb 05, 2010, 12:35 PM // 12:35	#8
Kattar EXCESSIVE FLUTTERCUSSING Join Date: Mar 2007 Guild: SMS (lolgw2placeholder) Profession: Me/	Guru only provides a platform for buyers to find sellers and vice versa. No EULA breaking involved. Don't you think, especially with all the activity from NCsoft staff on this forum, they would have come down on us like a ton of bricks if we were doing something wrong? Anyway, that's all off topic. __________________ All seems lost now, but still we must fight on.

Feb 05, 2010, 08:27 AM // 08:27	#2
Bob Slydell Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2007	It is against the EULA to share accounts. I can only think they do this so that they don't get flooded support tickets involving things like (my friend got my acct banned, my friend stole this, my friend did that...on my account) etc.. they want you to be responsible for your own account. Note though, they would never know you shared accounts...ever..unless you or your friend admitted that you did in game, and then if someone were to report it..you'd be hit with a ban. Hope that answers your question.

Feb 05, 2010, 08:43 AM // 08:43	#3
pinkeyflower Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2010	Thanks. That answers my question completely.

Feb 05, 2010, 11:16 AM // 11:16	#5
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	No, GWG doesn't auction off items for real cash which is how I read that rule. Selling items for ingame gold is perfectly fine and obviously supported by A-net or we wouldn't have a trade chat and trade window.

Feb 05, 2010, 11:56 AM // 11:56	#6
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	That may be true, but it doesnt talk about real world cash or in game cash.It just says auctioning them is not allowed.

Feb 05, 2010, 01:02 PM // 13:02	#9
Stop The Storm Keeping DoA Alive Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: England Guild: Were In [DoA] Profession: A/N	i dont think hes saying that what guru is doing is against the eula, but the way its worded and lack of "real cash" in the sentance doesnt quite specify what is and what isnt allowed. it just says you cant auction items and you cant assist in doing so either, so players and gwg are breaking the eula according to that (we know really we aint, its just badly worded)

Feb 05, 2010, 01:34 PM // 13:34	#10
Xenex Xclame Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: DPX Profession: R/	Yes what Stop The Storm said, badly worded. The same that we are used to from Anet. Removes negative conditions,wtf?! where are the positive conditions

Feb 05, 2010, 03:34 PM // 15:34	#11
Hyperventilate Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Somewhere in California Guild: I Gots A Crayon [Blue] Profession: Me/Mo	I agree it's worded poorly. But, think about it. No trading of items? How else are you going to trade for other items in game? "I'll give you 100k for your unded mini gwen." "Okay." Perma ban What? Really now. But, it's been clarified, so it's all good. I think OP's question was answered, too.

Feb 05, 2010, 10:46 PM // 22:46	#12
TheRaven Desert Nomad Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Guild: Spirit of Elisha Profession: W/	Yeah, I think when they said you can't auction an ingame item they were thinking specifically of Ebay. I used to see a lot of ingame weapons listed there for $5 or $10 or more for especially rare items (No I didn't buy any), but Ebay cleaned it all out about a year or 2 ago. I guess when they wrote the Eula they weren't imagining that fansites would start listing auctions for ingame gold so it was poorly worded. Nowadays we have several nice sites that take the place of an ingame auction house. The only trouble is trying to meet up with the buyers ingame. Especially if the buyer and seller are 10 time zones away from each other.