Most OP/Useful PvE Class? - Guild Wars Forums

Hospice · Feb 21, 2011, 04:35 AM // 04:35

Title, what is the most op class in PvE and what are the classes that can most easily solo and farm and vanq HM and other end game content alone; or alternatively contribute really well to a team.

Bad Company Sin · Feb 21, 2011, 04:44 AM // 04:44

All depends on the player.

Voodoo Rage · Feb 21, 2011, 05:22 AM // 05:22

As far as soloing areas, I would think it would be a ritualist.

**cosyfiep** · Feb 21, 2011, 05:42 AM // 05:42

2nd the rit...can do damage and heal...

Rites · Feb 21, 2011, 05:54 AM // 05:54

sadly i have to agree with the masses on this one, rits still seem to be more flexible than other classes

Owik Gall · Feb 21, 2011, 05:57 AM // 05:57

Even though it's old, the Imbagon class is high end, at least in party defense. As it stands for offence, with Asuran Scan remade there's no way to tell anymore. I'd say maybe warriors, but the neo-dervs are making a come back. So it could be either way.

Zodiac Meteor · Feb 21, 2011, 06:45 AM // 06:45

Ritualist's 1st, elementalists 2nd, necromancers 3rd and assassins 4th.

Ritualists and Elementalists are more PuG friendly (AKA they can pull the weight of a bad team) as well as holding their own and contribute in organized teams.

Assassins have the highest DPS and best at tanking/farming plus necromancers are very flexible like ritualists.

Pick your fav

Iuris · Feb 21, 2011, 07:49 AM // 07:49

Seriously though, it hardly matters since the key to real power are the Necromancer and Ritualist heroes you can set up into a team that'll take care of vanquishing while you sleep

FoxBat · Feb 21, 2011, 08:16 AM // 08:16

As for "alone" as in, at the head of AIs following you around; melee is a fair bit stronger. You can make your heroes run reasonable casters, you can't make them run reasonable melee, and miss a ton of damage that way. For all-around OP I'd have to vote assassin now, though warrior and dervish are more versatile/less dull and very capable, even melee ranger with pet is pretty good. Assassin also sets you up to tank for various endgame teams if that's your fancy too.

aspi · Feb 21, 2011, 08:41 AM // 08:41

Rit and necro share first place.

@ Zodiac, Elemenatalists above necro? Really? Have you ever seen people use them for VQ?

IronSheik · Feb 21, 2011, 12:49 PM // 12:49

With AoHM and Asuran changed scythe users fall from first place in PvE Melee.

I'll have to give melee back to the DB sin spammer.

Spirit spammers aren't as good damage pumpers as everyone thinks, rits are only good for splinter weapon in my eyes.

Necros for me, and then eles behind them for spellcaster

krokos · Feb 21, 2011, 01:33 PM // 13:33

I'd say mesmer.... just panic/vor or wastrell spam with rupts ^^

Ling · Feb 21, 2011, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Necro imo, that's why I've been running one for the past few years ^.^

jazilla · Feb 21, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25

@OP: really it doesn't matter which class you play solo as long as you use certain PvE only skills. Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support, Pain Inverter, and "You move Like A Dwarf!". You said you want over powered and those skills are precisely that. My elementalist bar looked like this when I was playing: Assassin's Promise, EVAS, PI, YMLaD!, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Searing Heat, or Energy Blast. You said OP and that is pretty OP because with Assassin's Promise recharging all your skills you get repeatable instant cast Meteor Shower. Bring an Earthbind Ritualist with Soul Twisting and your enemies won't do anything.

I am figuring that you want the easiest way to do VQ's etc, and this is an easy way to do it.

Xenomortis · Feb 21, 2011, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Assassins, Warriors and Dervs are at the top in some order. Sins get Shadow Form. Good stuff may arise from the new derv update. All three kill stuff.
Rits get lol spirits and can easily solo a fair bit.
Eles, Paras and Rits get hilarious defense.
Necs get the best caster damage options through MMing and force multipliers (Orders and Mark of Pain). Also good shutdown options.
Mesmers get good shutdown and some alright direct damage stuff.
Monks can heal and prot.
Rangers can shoot stuff? Maybe try to use daggers?

The position of the casters depends on your personal requirements; Necs may go at the top of the caster bunch or fall behind the Ele. The three melee physicals rule on damage really. Farming options also exist and Shadow Form is ridiculous.

jazilla · Feb 21, 2011, 03:51 PM // 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xenomortis

Assassins, Warriors and Dervs are at the top in some order. Sins get Shadow Form. Good stuff may arise from the new derv update. All three kill stuff.
Rits get lol spirits and can easily solo a fair bit.
Eles, Paras and Rits get hilarious defense.
Necs get the best caster damage options through MMing and force multipliers (Orders and Mark of Pain). Also good shutdown options.
Mesmers get good shutdown and some alright direct damage stuff.
Monks can heal and prot.
Rangers can shoot stuff? Maybe try to use daggers?

The position of the casters depends on your personal requirements; Necs may go at the top of the caster bunch or fall behind the Ele. The three melee physicals rule on damage really. Farming options also exist and Shadow Form is ridiculous.

The OP wanted stuff that was overpowered though. As far as i can tell the most overpowered skills for VQ's like the OP wanted are PvE only skills.

Xenomortis · Feb 21, 2011, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Yes? This doesn't change anything and I was taking those into account when I wrote that list. If I didn't, the Para would be down there with the Ranger.

ensoriki · Feb 21, 2011, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Haven't had any difficulty with a ritualist at all.
Only way to die was being impatient or lazy. Set spirits, shoot an enemy once with a longbow then /dance.
rinse and repeat.
For every enemy and boss.

drkn · Feb 21, 2011, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Solo - rit.
H/H normal things - probably rit.
H/H elite things (as Deep) - probably warrior, then sin.
High-end farming - sin, then warrior and rit.
Discord caller - mesmer.
Hero for general use - mesmer.

Paragons are great when it comes to reducing incoming damage via shouts - google imbagon.
Dervishes are probably one of the strongest and most OP right now, but it's hard to estimate their power, as they got updated just a few days ago. Still, they might replace warriors in nearly every setting, or at least so it seems.

Remember to abuse PvE skills and run complementary builds on runed heroes.

Hospice · Feb 24, 2011, 02:35 PM // 14:35

essentially it is more about what role you are trying to fill and which class is the best at it, correct?

I have a few level 20's but havent played since EotN and a lot seemed to have change since then, i wasn't necessarily sure whether the best choice to H/H through HM Vanqs and dungeons would be with my ele seeing as how there is a lot of talk about how they need a redsign for damage, but i suppose that they just fill a different role now.

Feb 21, 2011, 04:35 AM // 04:35	#1
Hospice Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2011 Profession: E/D	Most OP/Useful PvE Class? Title, what is the most op class in PvE and what are the classes that can most easily solo and farm and vanq HM and other end game content alone; or alternatively contribute really well to a team. Last edited by Hospice; Feb 21, 2011 at 04:52 AM // 04:52..

Feb 21, 2011, 05:42 AM // 05:42	#4
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	2nd the rit...can do damage and heal... __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Feb 21, 2011, 06:45 AM // 06:45	#7
Zodiac Meteor Imma Firin Mah Rojway! Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: At the Mac Store laughing at people that walk out with anything. Profession: E/Mo	Ritualist's 1st, elementalists 2nd, necromancers 3rd and assassins 4th. Ritualists and Elementalists are more PuG friendly (AKA they can pull the weight of a bad team) as well as holding their own and contribute in organized teams. Assassins have the highest DPS and best at tanking/farming plus necromancers are very flexible like ritualists. Pick your fav Last edited by Zodiac Meteor; Feb 21, 2011 at 06:49 AM // 06:49..

Feb 21, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25	#14
jazilla Desert Nomad Join Date: Aug 2006 Guild: Guernsey Milking Coalition[MiLk] Profession: E/Me	@OP: really it doesn't matter which class you play solo as long as you use certain PvE only skills. Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support, Pain Inverter, and "You move Like A Dwarf!". You said you want over powered and those skills are precisely that. My elementalist bar looked like this when I was playing: Assassin's Promise, EVAS, PI, YMLaD!, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Glyph of Sacrifice, Meteor Shower, Searing Heat, or Energy Blast. You said OP and that is pretty OP because with Assassin's Promise recharging all your skills you get repeatable instant cast Meteor Shower. Bring an Earthbind Ritualist with Soul Twisting and your enemies won't do anything. I am figuring that you want the easiest way to do VQ's etc, and this is an easy way to do it. Last edited by jazilla; Feb 21, 2011 at 03:27 PM // 15:27..

Feb 21, 2011, 04:44 AM // 04:44	#2
Bad Company Sin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Texas Guild: Embrace Annihilation [?????????] Profession: A/	All depends on the player.

Feb 21, 2011, 05:22 AM // 05:22	#3
Voodoo Rage Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sacramento, CA Guild: Geezers Profession: R/	As far as soloing areas, I would think it would be a ritualist.

Feb 21, 2011, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#5
Rites Krytan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Deep in the belly of Texas Profession: R/	sadly i have to agree with the masses on this one, rits still seem to be more flexible than other classes

Feb 21, 2011, 05:57 AM // 05:57	#6
Owik Gall Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Guild: Guardians of the Light Profession: W/Mo	Even though it's old, the Imbagon class is high end, at least in party defense. As it stands for offence, with Asuran Scan remade there's no way to tell anymore. I'd say maybe warriors, but the neo-dervs are making a come back. So it could be either way.

Feb 21, 2011, 07:49 AM // 07:49	#8
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Seriously though, it hardly matters since the key to real power are the Necromancer and Ritualist heroes you can set up into a team that'll take care of vanquishing while you sleep

Feb 21, 2011, 08:16 AM // 08:16	#9
FoxBat Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: Amazon Basin [AB] Profession: Mo/Me	As for "alone" as in, at the head of AIs following you around; melee is a fair bit stronger. You can make your heroes run reasonable casters, you can't make them run reasonable melee, and miss a ton of damage that way. For all-around OP I'd have to vote assassin now, though warrior and dervish are more versatile/less dull and very capable, even melee ranger with pet is pretty good. Assassin also sets you up to tank for various endgame teams if that's your fancy too.

Feb 21, 2011, 08:41 AM // 08:41	#10
aspi Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: eeew Profession: N/Rt	Rit and necro share first place. @ Zodiac, Elemenatalists above necro? Really? Have you ever seen people use them for VQ?

Feb 21, 2011, 12:49 PM // 12:49	#11
IronSheik Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wolfenstein: Goldrush Guild: Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom] Profession: N/	With AoHM and Asuran changed scythe users fall from first place in PvE Melee. I'll have to give melee back to the DB sin spammer. Spirit spammers aren't as good damage pumpers as everyone thinks, rits are only good for splinter weapon in my eyes. Necros for me, and then eles behind them for spellcaster

Feb 21, 2011, 01:33 PM // 13:33	#12
krokos Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2010 Profession: Mo/	I'd say mesmer.... just panic/vor or wastrell spam with rupts ^^

Feb 21, 2011, 02:07 PM // 14:07	#13
Ling Ling-a-Ding-a-Dong Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Playing GW2 on EU - FSP, pm me for contact details Guild: Fellowship of the [Ling]	Necro imo, that's why I've been running one for the past few years ^.^

Feb 21, 2011, 03:30 PM // 15:30	#15
Xenomortis Tea Powered Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Profession: N/	Assassins, Warriors and Dervs are at the top in some order. Sins get Shadow Form. Good stuff may arise from the new derv update. All three kill stuff. Rits get lol spirits and can easily solo a fair bit. Eles, Paras and Rits get hilarious defense. Necs get the best caster damage options through MMing and force multipliers (Orders and Mark of Pain). Also good shutdown options. Mesmers get good shutdown and some alright direct damage stuff. Monks can heal and prot. Rangers can shoot stuff? Maybe try to use daggers? The position of the casters depends on your personal requirements; Necs may go at the top of the caster bunch or fall behind the Ele. The three melee physicals rule on damage really. Farming options also exist and Shadow Form is ridiculous.

Feb 21, 2011, 06:53 PM // 18:53	#17
Xenomortis Tea Powered Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK Profession: N/	Yes? This doesn't change anything and I was taking those into account when I wrote that list. If I didn't, the Para would be down there with the Ranger.

Feb 21, 2011, 07:43 PM // 19:43	#18
ensoriki Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Canada bro. Profession: A/D	Haven't had any difficulty with a ritualist at all. Only way to die was being impatient or lazy. Set spirits, shoot an enemy once with a longbow then /dance. rinse and repeat. For every enemy and boss.

Feb 21, 2011, 08:13 PM // 20:13	#19
drkn Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wroc??aw, Poland Guild: Midnight Mayhem Profession: Me/	Solo - rit. H/H normal things - probably rit. H/H elite things (as Deep) - probably warrior, then sin. High-end farming - sin, then warrior and rit. Discord caller - mesmer. Hero for general use - mesmer. Paragons are great when it comes to reducing incoming damage via shouts - google imbagon. Dervishes are probably one of the strongest and most OP right now, but it's hard to estimate their power, as they got updated just a few days ago. Still, they might replace warriors in nearly every setting, or at least so it seems. Remember to abuse PvE skills and run complementary builds on runed heroes.

Feb 24, 2011, 02:35 PM // 14:35	#20
Hospice Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Feb 2011 Profession: E/D	essentially it is more about what role you are trying to fill and which class is the best at it, correct? I have a few level 20's but havent played since EotN and a lot seemed to have change since then, i wasn't necessarily sure whether the best choice to H/H through HM Vanqs and dungeons would be with my ele seeing as how there is a lot of talk about how they need a redsign for damage, but i suppose that they just fill a different role now.