Red Resign 2.0? - Guild Wars Forums

melissa b · Jun 06, 2011, 08:21 AM // 08:21

Can anyone confirm if red resign is back. I have suspicion that gvg teams with low rankings are resigning for strongboxes. Also, is it legal? What will anet do to a guild doing this, if anything?

Dre · Jun 06, 2011, 09:07 AM // 09:07

no more strongboxes if the other team resignes before [condition]

*lemming* · Jun 06, 2011, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Confirmed. Take a look at the bottom of the ladder - guilds that manipulated their way to 600-800 rating, going 0-40 along the way, suddenly have wins. Go figure.

It's technically against the EULA, but good luck getting support to do anything about it.

Also, the 2 minute restriction doesn't do shit when the same people are on both sides of the match.

papryk · Jun 06, 2011, 09:13 AM // 09:13

there is already a condition. strongboxes appears 2 minutes after the start of a gvg match.

imo they should add another condition. kill the guild lord then the strongbox drop.

and this rr day 2.0 was long before the strongboxes were added. gvg zq says hello.

UnicornStampede · Jun 06, 2011, 09:30 AM // 09:30

meh, you have more gvg's possible because more guilds go in because they think they can face them for free rating.

crazy daggerfighter · Jun 06, 2011, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Originally Posted by papryk

imo they should add another condition. kill the guild lord then the strongbox drop.

Bad idea, players will resign just seconds before you kill the enemy guild lord, leaving you without a strongbox after a match.

Just see who is doing rr and ban them.

papryk · Jun 06, 2011, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by crazy daggerfighter

Bad idea, players will resign just seconds before you kill the enemy guild lord, leaving you without a strongbox after a match.

Just see who is doing rr and ban them.

this is a good idea.. ppl will be forced to play normally. u kill the GL u have the drop. simple.

ps. AN wont ban the RRwayers..like they didn't with Hero Battles...

Bebbo · Jun 06, 2011, 10:55 AM // 10:55

Make it so you need 1000 raiting or more to qualify for the boxes

Kc Quipor Ultra · Jun 06, 2011, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by papryk

this is a good idea.. ppl will be forced to play normally. u kill the GL u have the drop. simple.

ps. AN wont ban the RRwayers..like they didn't with Hero Battles...

Well they did ban people, but not everyone

papryk · Jun 06, 2011, 11:02 AM // 11:02

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Originally Posted by Bebbo

Make it so you need 1000 raiting or more to qualify for the boxes

bad/casual gvg guilds will be hurted this way...

@up. I dont remember any banwave for rr in HB

Kc Quipor Ultra · Jun 06, 2011, 11:08 AM // 11:08

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Originally Posted by papryk

bad/casual gvg guilds will be hurted this way...

@up. I dont remember any banwave for rr in HB

a few people got IP banned

because of multiple accounts farming almost 24/24

some people had 5 stacks on 1 day

RedDog91 · Jun 06, 2011, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Go in GvG.
if you're blue, the red team might resign. If not, fight them.
if you're red, don't resign. The blue team will either resign out of frustration that you aren't "following the rules" or they'll fight you and lose because they were on;y prepared for RedResign.

it's a system that actually works in favor of people that want to fight.

floor · Jun 06, 2011, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Remove -25 rating loss from forfeiting 1st round of an AT.

Shayne Hawke · Jun 06, 2011, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by RedDog91

Go in GvG.
if you're blue, the red team might resign. If not, fight them.
if you're red, don't resign. The blue team will either resign out of frustration that you aren't "following the rules" or they'll fight you and lose because they were on;y prepared for RedResign.

it's a system that actually works in favor of people that want to fight.

Not completely true. People who want to fight will usually win against someone who wants to resign, but the number of times that a person who participates in R.R. wins in a given time period is going to be a lot more than the times of players who actually fight. By design, those who want to fight rise, and those who want to resign fall, and those who want to resign group together so that they don't have to encounter players who fight. Sure, those who fight may have a few easy battles against those who would resign, but one battle doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things. People doing R.R. might complete ten or more battles in the time that two normal teams would duke it out, resulting in an average of five wins, yielding five times the reward as any winning fighting team.

If we're just looking at a rate of return from this activity, R.R. is a lot more productive than fighting. That's the biggest reason for why R.R. needs to be avoided.

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Originally Posted by floor

Remove -25 rating loss from forfeiting 1st round of an AT.

Ah, so that's why that's happening...

Bristlebane · Jun 06, 2011, 02:59 PM // 14:59

Since Anet took an active stand to break RR v1, I think they will be a bit more active in avoiding it just being replaced with new ways of cheating. Especially now when it also lets people hoard strongboxes while doing it.

Missing HB · Jun 06, 2011, 05:46 PM // 17:46

You knew what to expect with those strongboxes such easy to get though... Owait , rewarding dead hour syncers in codex with some coffers is a good idea too....

And anyway , people were already syncing zquest and totbags before , that's not something new....

UnicornStampede · Jun 06, 2011, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Shayne Hawke

Ah, so that's why that's happening...

well its why those guilds are so low ranked. And Red Resign isn't necessarily bad because you have more guilds playing (not just syncers) because they think they will get paired up with the syncers and get easy rating. So it makes dead hour gvg not completely dead. Last night I played till 5am est and still got real matches.

If anet does something about this, it better not be too drastic because dead hour in GvG will go back to 10pm est, like it was.

Jun 06, 2011, 08:21 AM // 08:21	#1
melissa b Krytan Explorer Join Date: Oct 2007	Red Resign 2.0? Can anyone confirm if red resign is back. I have suspicion that gvg teams with low rankings are resigning for strongboxes. Also, is it legal? What will anet do to a guild doing this, if anything?

Jun 06, 2011, 09:11 AM // 09:11	#3
lemming The Hotshot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Honolulu Guild: International District [id???]	Confirmed. Take a look at the bottom of the ladder - guilds that manipulated their way to 600-800 rating, going 0-40 along the way, suddenly have wins. Go figure. It's technically against the EULA, but good luck getting support to do anything about it. Also, the 2 minute restriction doesn't do shit when the same people are on both sides of the match. __________________ Interested in GvG? Want to watch some high-level PvP? Check out some streams and recordings!

Jun 06, 2011, 09:13 AM // 09:13	#4
papryk Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nancy Guild: The Autonomy[?????????]	there is already a condition. strongboxes appears 2 minutes after the start of a gvg match. imo they should add another condition. kill the guild lord then the strongbox drop. and this rr day 2.0 was long before the strongboxes were added. gvg zq says hello. Last edited by papryk; Jun 06, 2011 at 09:15 AM // 09:15..

Jun 06, 2011, 09:07 AM // 09:07	#2
Dre Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Belgium Guild: Dutch Doom Brigade Profession: W/	no more strongboxes if the other team resignes before [condition]

Jun 06, 2011, 09:30 AM // 09:30	#5
UnicornStampede Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Mar 2011	meh, you have more gvg's possible because more guilds go in because they think they can face them for free rating.

Jun 06, 2011, 10:55 AM // 10:55	#8
Bebbo Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wales Guild: Desolation Gods [DG]/Poop Knights [zzz] Profession: A/E	Make it so you need 1000 raiting or more to qualify for the boxes

Jun 06, 2011, 11:58 AM // 11:58	#12
RedDog91 Desert Nomad Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Farming for Nick gifts Profession: R/	Go in GvG. if you're blue, the red team might resign. If not, fight them. if you're red, don't resign. The blue team will either resign out of frustration that you aren't "following the rules" or they'll fight you and lose because they were on;y prepared for RedResign. it's a system that actually works in favor of people that want to fight.

Jun 06, 2011, 12:29 PM // 12:29	#13
floor Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: England Guild: Activity Can Be An Issue [afk] / Queen And Country [QC] Profession: Mo/W	Remove -25 rating loss from forfeiting 1st round of an AT.

Jun 06, 2011, 02:59 PM // 14:59	#15
Bristlebane Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: Mo/	Since Anet took an active stand to break RR v1, I think they will be a bit more active in avoiding it just being replaced with new ways of cheating. Especially now when it also lets people hoard strongboxes while doing it.

Jun 06, 2011, 05:46 PM // 17:46	#16
Missing HB Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2010 Guild: Anna Profession: A/	You knew what to expect with those strongboxes such easy to get though... Owait , rewarding dead hour syncers in codex with some coffers is a good idea too.... And anyway , people were already syncing zquest and totbags before , that's not something new....